Upgrading Suggestions..

[khandu]

Hey all

Upgrading after a long time.. so here's what I am thinking..

Asus A8V Deluxe: Rs. 8,700
Athlon 64 3000+ (Socket-939): Rs. 7,900
Transcend 512 MB DDR-400: Rs. 2950
Seagate SATA 160 GB: Rs. 4,750
16X DVD-Writer with Dual Layer Burning: Rs. 4,800
Sound Card: Creative SB Live! 24-bit Sound card (Rs. 2,450)
Speakers: Creative Inspire 6600 Speakers (Rs. 4,900)
A proper cabinet ( MOST IMP AS HEATING IS A HECK OF A PROBLEM FOR ME ).. COMP ON 24 X 7

Prices are estimate.. plz do quote the proper price if u know ( in Mumbai )

Things to keep in note are

1) I have a AGP card so i dont need 1.. but I need a mobo with AGP Slot..

2) Already have a 512 chip so additional 512MB will make it 1 GB for me..

3) Need to future proof it a bit ( not PCI-e ) but in system stability wise..


What u guys say ??

Speedy suggestions and mumbai prices needed..

or perhaps P4 ?? ( i know 99% ppl hate intel here )

[icecoolz]

Nice config. The DVD writer which make is it ? The benq one is Rs 4500. Proper cabinet would then be from Zebronics lava lava. Still a damn good cabinet. Ofcourse if you can afford it then Antec If you cvant go for a Antec smps then powersafe is you best bet 400W is more than enough. The rest looks pretty cool mate.

[pradeep_chauhan]

How are the zebronics SMPS?
I plan to buy one 500W for my system.

[khandu]

OK

Thats cool..

Now is there any mobo which supports old fashioned AGP + PCI-e ??

and is my mobo choice right ??

DVD writer i was thinkin Sony... but Benq is also cool..

[blade_runner]

Originally Posted by khandu

Hey all

Upgrading after a long time.. so here's what I am thinking..

Asus A8V Deluxe: Rs. 8,700
Athlon 64 3000+ (Socket-939): Rs. 7,900
Transcend 512 MB DDR-400: Rs. 2950
Seagate SATA 160 GB: Rs. 4,750
16X DVD-Writer with Dual Layer Burning: Rs. 4,800
Sound Card: Creative SB Live! 24-bit Sound card (Rs. 2,450)
Speakers: Creative Inspire 6600 Speakers (Rs. 4,900)
A proper cabinet ( MOST IMP AS HEATING IS A HECK OF A PROBLEM FOR ME ).. COMP ON 24 X 7

Prices are estimate.. plz do quote the proper price if u know ( in Mumbai )

Things to keep in note are

1) I have a AGP card so i dont need 1.. but I need a mobo with AGP Slot..

2) Already have a 512 chip so additional 512MB will make it 1 GB for me..

3) Need to future proof it a bit ( not PCI-e ) but in system stability wise..


What u guys say ??

Speedy suggestions and mumbai prices needed..

or perhaps P4 ?? ( i know 99% ppl hate intel here )

Lot of people upgrading ! gr8 !
Your prices are mostly spot on khandu, the A8V shud b down to 8-8.2k though. IF u can afford then go for the 3200+ which is like 1.5k more i think and a gr8 ocer. A good cabinet would be a one with lot of fans, if u an antec get the SLK1650 which is the cheapest one with 350W PSU for arnd 3k. Getting a generic cabby with a powersafe 400W psu will cost u as much so y not get the 1650 instead.

[khandu]

Originally Posted by icecoolz

Nice config. The DVD writer which make is it ? The benq one is Rs 4500. Proper cabinet would then be from Zebronics lava lava. Still a damn good cabinet. Ofcourse if you can afford it then Antec If you cvant go for a Antec smps then powersafe is you best bet 400W is more than enough. The rest looks pretty cool mate.

Whats the model number of the DVD writer ???

@ Blade

Hmm.. I think i will save som cash on processor.. 3000+ should be kool for me..

Suggestions on mobo please..

[icecoolz]

the benq DVD writer I was talking of is this one Model DW1620MULTI. Heres more info on it :

http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/d...48a/?cpg=wnrdf

[drgrudge]

Originally Posted by khandu

Whats the model number of the DVD writer ???

Benq 1620 --> rs. 4.5k
Benq 1600 --> 4k (single layer, but with firmware, made to dual layer)

[khandu]

ok cool

so what u say ?? shall i save 500 bucks ??

and is every1 satisfied with the motherboard..

[icecoolz]

A8V deluxe is a damn cool modo so just go for it. And Benq not only saves u the money also its a very very good DVD writer. Rave reviews everywhere.

[drgrudge]

Originally Posted by khandu

ok cool

so what u say ?? shall i save 500 bucks ??

Hmm...man u save 500rs. and remember u will have to pay additional for the firmware upgrade (i think it's only rs. 90 or so.., my friend got it done). So in whatever way u will save money. Also check the writing speed of 1600 before buying.

[blade_runner]

@khandu: The A8V is the best agp based s939 mobo, not a extreme oc'er but some guys have managed to oc their 3000+ winnies to 2.7Ghz which is awesome !

I also have a Benq 1600 flashed to 1620 ! So you can save the money since a simple firmware flash turns the 1600 > 1620 without losing your warranty !

@grudge: 90/-rs for wot ?? Firware upgrade is easy as saying 1 ..2...3. Benq ppl have provided a windows based flash utility to flash their drives to newer updates. Needless to say your frnd got ripped.

[khandu]

Yeah flashing can be done easily...

The A8V is the best agp based s939 mobo, not a extreme oc'er but some guys have managed to oc their 3000+ winnies to 2.7Ghz which is awesome ! <--

What did u mean by this.. my prev comp is 2.8GHZ HT.

So 3000+ is slower than that ???

[drgrudge]

@blade, wht's the big deal in rs. 90 man? That fellow took one full day to flash that drive....

[icecoolz]

khandu...yes the 3000+ is slower in terms of clock speeds but out does the 2.8 ghz HT hands down. Not even a fair comparison actually. Cos one is 64 bit and the other is 32 bit.

[khandu]

Ok thats nice..

I know about the processor bit

lets see..

and about SATA HDD.. mine have had SAMRT errors 3 times now and changed my HDD 4 times..

Samsung 160 GB SATA HDD>.

What should i do ?? and cause ??

I think i will go for a seagate this time..

[drgrudge]

Hm...
120Gb/7200 RPM sata costs Rs 4000.
Rs. 7000, 250gb, 7200 RPM.

One more thing:
Samsung --> chances of getting bad sectors
Seagate --> Noisy drive (but for higher capacity HDD only)

In my opinion Maxtor is good. I have ordered a 400gb Maxtor diamond plus which will cost rs. 5.5k . Already my sousin has a 250gb HDD of maxtor which costed 4.3k. It's some 6 months old and doing well...

[blade_runner]

@Khandu: I htought u might have had an idea that AMD uses pr ratings for its processors rather than clock speeds. Though AMD processors outperform any Intel proccys of the same ratings and more.

OMG ! grudge who said samsung has more chances of bad sectors !It all depends on the conditions and usage.I have been using samsung drives for quite some time now. No probs till date. Though seagates are fractionally better in performance. Maxtors drives are also good though they come with 3yr warranty only imo.

[khandu]

Originally Posted by drgrudge

Hm...
120Gb/7200 RPM sata costs Rs 4000.
Rs. 7000, 250gb, 7200 RPM.

One more thing:
Samsung --> chances of getting bad sectors
Seagate --> Noisy drive (but for higher capacity HDD only)

In my opinion Maxtor is good. I have ordered a 400gb Maxtor diamond plus which will cost rs. 5.5k . Already my sousin has a 250gb HDD of maxtor which costed 4.3k. It's some 6 months old and doing well...

WOW!! i didnt know maxtor is that cheap ?? 400GB @ Rs. 5.5 ??? DAMN!!!

[icecoolz]

holy cr@p! Man I never knew it was that cheap either@ Dang! I think I will have to make a visit to chennai. Richie street here I come

[pimpom]

I'm usually reluctant to enter into a brand comparision issue because it can easily lead to an unproductive flame war, but I feel that I must insert a cautionary note here.

Maxtor has a rather poor reputation for reliability. So does Samsung compared to Seagate. This does not mean that every Maxtor or Samsung drive is guaranteed to fail within a short time, or that Seagate drives will live forever.

There are individual cases where a Samsung or Maxtor drive lasts for years and years, and other cases where a Seagate drive gave up the ghost in a year or two. But the statistical average seems to be that Seagate drives are the most reliable of all, and Maxtor is just about the worst, with Samsung and Western Digital somewhere in between.

My statement is based partly on my own experience involving a large number of computers, and partly on reading about other people's experiences.

[drgrudge]

Originally Posted by blade_runner

OMG ! grudge who said samsung has more chances of bad sectors !It all depends on the conditions and usage.I have been using samsung drives for quite some time now. No probs till date.

Hmm..., even now i have a Samsung drive... it has 30mb bad sector...

Man most of them have this same problem...
And i have a samsung drives (two of them in fact) which are good, so can i say Samsung drives are good...?
See the below statement....

Originally Posted by pimpom

My statement is based partly on my own experience involving a large number of computers, and partly on reading about other people's experiences.

@ice, khandu,
It's from US man, rebate sale walla. My cousin has a 250gb HDD for a year and no problem till now.

[khandu]

Phew..

I thought that was indian rate..

lemme get the pricing.. Hmm.. i think might go for seagate as their service is cool in mumbai.. replacement in 72 hrs...

[khandu]

Now..

What I would like to know is

1) Is there any ASUS or other company Motherboard which supports PCI-E/SLI and the traditional 8x AGP ??? Is it possible ??

Oh and btw.. I did buy the Seagate 160 GB SATA : Rs. 4650