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Old 24-03-2005, 09:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default HELP!!! SYSTEM HANGS TOO MUCH


I have this new problem:

My system hangs suddenly without any warning when running any software which I was using for more than last 3 months.
This problem began when I installed Photoshop CS trial, but even after uninstalling it the problem persists. The system hangs unexpectedly, even if I'm listening to a song in WMP. What could be the cause?
I run a dual boot system (Win 98/XP), this problem occurs in both the OS.

Now there is also a new problem, I recently purchased a rewritable media (never used one before), copied some stuff and then formatted it in XP (using inbuilt feature), since then ROXIO doesn't detect blank discs, neither does XP. While the writer (LITEON combo) and the same RW media works fine in 98 with NERO. It says that my drive is not supported by ROXIO, where as I have burned over 50 CDs using ROXIO. Any one knows what can be done?
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Old 24-03-2005, 11:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hmmmm...............tried reinstalling the OS??
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Try changing the hardware acceleration settings.

In Win98, right click on My Computer, go to properties > Performance > graphics and put it to none. This will take away some smoothness in scrolling and machine may appear a little slow. But if machine stops hanging, then next time put that mark to the next higher level and see. Keep trying it till your machine is stable enough.

Find out the same settings in WinXP. I don't know where it is because I've never used WinXP.
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computer config and temperatures plz !
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Old 30-03-2005, 11:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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PIII - 450 MHz
324MB Ram
20Gb HDD
Dual boot (win 98/XP)


Will Post the temps soon
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As far as I know P-III don't have Thermal problems as far as the Heat Sink is in Proper Position. Still U need to post your CPU temperature.

Since the problem occurs in both OS, I think the problem is at Hardware level.

Better check if the CPU Cabinet doest has dusts and the contact points of the peripherals are clean.

You writer problem, can u explain more clearly ?
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Old 31-03-2005, 10:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
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System Temps as given in BIOS:

CPU Temp : 0 C / 30 F
System Temp : 31 C / 87 F
CPUFAN 1 : 3875-3925 rpm
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any other suggestions??
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Old 06-04-2005, 02:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
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hey div, i had same problem,

i just added 2 fans, one near pci slots, one near hdd, works fine now

try it, setup costs like 60 rupee tot
 
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when in doubt ...REFORMAT !
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Well have reformated the pc last night.

It is much better now, but still hangs. (freq. has decreased.)

@sunnydiv: My pc is running at 30 C. It is not high for a PIII.

By the way I opened the cabinet and tried to cool it with a table fan. Reduced the temp to 26 C but still the system hanged!!
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Old 07-04-2005, 05:07 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Could it be faulty hardware??

(My RAM is in warantee)
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i had similar probs with my p3 3-4 yrs back and the temps were like fires in hell

tried everything in vain and had to install a p2 366 mhz processor for the time being to keep the system alive
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Old 07-04-2005, 05:54 PM   #14 (permalink)
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check if ur system hangs in BIOS....enter BIOS nd let the PC run for a while...

try reseating RAM chips...ru using a single chip or two modules ??

if everything fails..remove all extra peripheral devices..remove printer cable,remove modem if any,remove LAN card,rmeove speakers etc..just keep 4 wires connected to CPU...power,monitor,mouse,keyboard,restart the PC in safe mode,nd see if it hangs...
if it doesnt hang this time around,try installing back devices one by one...with plenty of testing in between...
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it may b bcoz your RAM or some other h/w is not connected properly .... check all your connections both inside and outside the cabinet ....
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try reseating RAM chips...ru using a single chip or two modules ??
Two modules.

I 'll try fixing the cables again today and post the results.
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Well I tried removing one device at a time and running the system.

REPORT

Removed RAM 1
Still HANGS!!

Removed RAM 2
Still HANGS!!

Removed DVDROM
Still HANGS!!

Removed COMBO DRIVE
Still HANGS!!

Removed Printer
Still HANGS!!

Removed FDD
Still HANGS!!

Removed MODEM
Still HANGS!!

what to do now??
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call ur technician or wait 4 forum gurus to answer .....
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.. what abt CPU???...reinstalled that one too ??
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Install 1-2 more SMPS fans will surly solve the problem
 
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Install 1-2 more SMPS fans will surly solve the problem
SMPS fans??? u mean fans inside SMPS?????
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Install 1-2 more SMPS fans will surly solve the problem
SMPS fans??? u mean fans inside SMPS?????

R U OUT OF UR MIND!!!! Abe is there any place inside it??? In the Cabinet daffar :roll:
 
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before calling sumone duffer do check ur theories first...
fans installed in the cabinet ARE NOT CALLED SMPS fans...
nd i think i have seen SMPS inside out to know if there is space inside it..

world is getting crazier day by day
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Old 14-04-2005, 12:36 PM   #24 (permalink)
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there is no problem with the cooling.

I'm sure of that.

I think it is a software error (virus or something) as when I formatted my system (3 out of 4 drives) I was able to work on the comp without any error for some time. The degradatrion began soon.
Now the problem is thaty the PC hangs even before it completely loads windows.
I tried scanning the pc with the latest definitions of NAV but in vain.
Any other suggestions.?
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Ckeck following one by one.

IDE cable connection at HDD and DVD-Combo end.
IDE cable connection at motherboard end.
Do through scandisk on ur HDD on all drives.
Try chnanging IDE cable


How to do through scandisk
Do do through scandisk, i prefer using scandisk in pure dos mode.
If u don't have win98, then get a floppy disk, make it 98 bootable. copy scandisk.exe from win98 to it.

boot in dos and run
Code:
scandisk /all /surface
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i will try scandisk today
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Scandisk-ed all drives

No errors.

Any other suggestion??
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