guidance in making a website

[pt999]

hi,
i m a physiotherapist and i want to make a website of my own. I dont know anything about t same not even whom to approach...........

t only thing tat i know is it can b done starting Rs2000 or so but i've got no knowledge if i'll 've to pay a monthly rent after tat or wat???

plz provide me wid t details

tc cr

[slugger]

i got 3 extremely useful book/lets just 4 u

Fast Track to Web Design - July 2006

Fast Track to your Web Presence - September 2005

Fast Track to the Internet - August 2005

The first will give u a actually method of going about doing dat wehereas the others will give u a backgound about the online world. You may also want to check out this months Fast Track to Social Web though personally didnt like it 2 much, out of whatever little i read.

[pt999]

Originally Posted by slugger

i got 3 extremely useful book/lets just 4 u

thnx for ur response
BUT seems u didnt get my Q.

Actually i m not from computers field so i'll need to hire someone to make me a website.

i just wanna know t basics of this thing. if u can plz suggest me some person in t concerned field...........

i basically want to start from a forum.

thnx
tc cr

[slugger]

O i thot that you wanted to satrt coding yourself, in which case they would have been ideal starting points

Originally Posted by pt999

Actually i m not from computers field

that shud be no hinderance. i got a couple of doc cousins, they extensivley use computers for their work and my friends Grand dad started using the computer at the age of 73

Originally Posted by pt999

i just wanna know t basics of this thing. if u can plz suggest me some person in t concerned field...........

That person whose contact u want, is it for getting a website developed or is it for getting your doubts cleared. If it is for the second then those 3 booklets that I suggested wud be ideal starting points, and this forum is the hangout place of some of the most brightest minds, who would gladly pounce on your question with gusto and explain any doubts you have right down to the bone.

Originally Posted by pt999

i basically want to start from a forum.

dint understand wat u tryin 2 say

[pt999]

actually i plan to start a website initially with a forum in it and some info. on the home page. later on i plan to make it more extensive.

somethin like this person has done but his homepage is v.bad WWW.FUNISLAND.CO.NR

i hope u get my point.

My basic query being t money req. & amount of time spent in making it and keep it running

tc cr

[Sukhdeep Singh]

1. You need a domain. A .com/net/org/info cost around Rs 280 for a year
2. You will need Webhosting from where you can host your website. We sell it for Rs 250 a month or less if paid anually or if you want a smaller package.

More Info here YouWebsite.COM + Hosting - Just Rs 400

3. Now coming to Website content. You can buy or download readymade Website templates and edit few graphics and pages using softwares like Photoshop and Dreamweaver
4. If you want to make powerful Dynamic sites, you can install scripts based on the content of site like Blog Scripts, Forum scripts, Content Managment systems (CMS) etc.

Hope this helps

[slugger]

c d money required will be divide into 2 parts- money spent on hosting the site and the money you pay to get the website devloped and mantained

as for hosting d website is concerned, you will b charged according to the hosting paln you opt for

heres what GoDaddy has to offer

if you want to go with some indian hosting services u may want to check out Rediff's packages

and Indiatimes Packages

then coming to the second part, it is always advisable to opt for a web-develper in your Geographical location

if you want suggestions of good webdeveloper you could tell us where you are located and some member may know someone good to do the job for you and their charges for the same

[Sukhdeep Singh]

Originally Posted by slugger

heres what GoDaddy has to offer

Go for any host, stay awa from oversellers like Godaddy, Servage, Site5, SiteGround etc Always take consideration of support ...........sadly...Godaddy lacks bigtime in this. My personal favorite is Namecheap.

[saurabh kakkar]

Originally Posted by slugger

i got 3 extremely useful book/lets just 4 u

Fast Track to Web Design - July 2006

Fast Track to your Web Presence - September 2005

Fast Track to the Internet - August 2005

The first will give u a actually method of going about doing dat wehereas the others will give u a backgound about the online world. You may also want to check out this months Fast Track to Social Web though personally didnt like it 2 much, out of whatever little i read.

hey buddy can u tell me whether these r E-book or normal book ?

Can u plz tell the link if they r E-books .or the author if they r normal one

[Sukhdeep Singh]

Originally Posted by saurabh kakkar

hey buddy can u tell me wheter these r E-book or normal book ? or the author if they r normal one plz

Can u plz tell the link if they r E-books .

They come along with Digit Magazine.

[saurabh kakkar]

Originally Posted by sukhdeepsinghkohli

They come along with Digit Magazine.

from where i can get these books or any alternative e-books

am not a digit magazines subscriber and get to read digit in my college

also can u tell me whats the diffrence btw paid hosting and sites that offer

free hosting ?

[pt999]

Originally Posted by slugger

then coming to the second part, it is always advisable to opt for a web-develper in your Geographical location

if you want suggestions of good webdeveloper you could tell us where you are located and some member may know someone good to do the job for you and their charges for the same

i m in New Delhi R.K.Puram,

waise how 'll i know which plan suits me like the MB's & bandwidth???

and wat to look for in a good offer & a developer???

tc cr

[Sukhdeep Singh]

Originally Posted by pt999

i m in New Delhi R.K.Puram,

waise how 'll i know which plan suits me like the MB's & bandwidth???

and wat to look for in a good offer & a developer???

tc cr

Just start with a small package and upgrade later when your site gets bigger

Developer - do u really need this ??

Originally Posted by saurabh kakkar

from where i can get these books or any alternative e-books

am not a digit magazines subscriber and get to read digit in my college

also can u tell me whats the diffrence btw paid hosting and sites that offer

free hosting ?

You cannot download these AFAIK as i know, Digit doesnt give thse Fast tracks in PDF format. Not sure, since i dont buy magazine now

As for difference in Paid Hosting, Relaiblity and Features to cut short

[Desi-Tek.com]

i am working on one of the web project in j2ee which is worth 2.5lakh

and if you want cms based site than you don't have to look for developer download any open source cms and install it. price of the development is depend on requirement, technoly you want to use number of the developers involved etc.

if you are planning to run forum than you should go for minimum 5gb/month package

[pt999]

Originally Posted by Desi-Tek.com

if you want cms based site than you don't have to look for developer download any open source cms and install it. price of the development is depend on requirement, technoly you want to use number of the developers involved etc.

if you are planning to run forum than you should go for minimum 5gb/month package

thnx for ur replies

but i m sorry as i dont understand wat cms is???

i basically want somethin of this kind but with more columns in the forum
[link]www.ptsponsor.com[/link]

tc cr

[slugger]

CMC stands for Content Management System

it is basically a concept/technology to help you manage the information on your web-site in an extremely easy manner

btw i am preparing a response to sum of ur queries, will post it sum tim

plz dont get overwhelmed by jargons and terms dat people may throw at you here and give up the idea of mantaining a forum, i think it is a rocking idea, keep persevering

Originally Posted by pt999

i m in New Delhi R.K.Puram,

waise how 'll i know which plan suits me like the MB's & bandwidth???

and wat to look for in a good offer & a developer???

tc cr

as sukhdepsingh said start off with a modest bandwidth allocation [the least actually in your case, since i dont visualise physiotherapists, logging on 2-3 time a day and posting away 2glory and relishing any flaming ware thrown at them ]

As for going to a devloper to get a forum setup, hmmmmmm!!!!!!, it doesnt really sound very the way it is done kinda thing. Forums are setup based on pre-formatted packages that makes setting up a forum pretty much a no-brainer.

@Desi-Tek.com
forum packages have integrated CMS, dont they??? Actually arent they a specialised form of CMS, optimised 4 forums

The two Fast Track issues

Fast Track to Web Design
Fast Track to Your Web Presence

would have seriously explained to you all about web designing/hosting/mantaining in an extremely easy and simple manner, reading which would have made you an Internet Guru. Also reading the Fast Track to Internet would have made you an Internet Evangelist

Aslo pt999, 1 thing that I wanted to ask you was that, is this forum a part of some larger organistaion or is it your private pet project, because if it is the latter, then I would actually suggest not going for the professional setup that you are thinking of right away, but test the waters by starting a free forum

you could try using forumer.com

start a forum here, spread the word around, se how it is working, then se if it still holds your interest, and once you are convinced about your forum, then go for your own hosted forum

Please note that my repeated insistence on you reading Fast Track stems only from the fact that its content is top-class and reproducing the same over here is beyond the scope of my time. The detailed but simple manner in which they have explained stuf is really comendable

BTW I hope you are aware of the fact that starting a forum is not the end of it, infact it is just the beginning. Because you will have to constantly monitor the forum, or delegate that task to somenoe else to ensure that spammers do not create frudulent account and then use your forum to indulge in unpleasent activities [leaving it to your imagination]. That is why this forum also has many mods/sup-mods/admins to do the dirty work

you need to keep all these in mind before venturing into the forum creation pursuit

[max_demon]

Else you can try free hosting like 110MB and free domain Co.NR

[Desi-Tek.com]

Originally Posted by slugger

CMS stands for Content Management System


@Desi-Tek.com
forum packages have integrated CMS, dont they??? Actually arent they a specialised form of CMS, optimised 4 forums

not really cms could be single user driven site but forum is community driven site, It require lots of bandwidth, system resources for different task. depend on the type of forum you are using.
for mail validation, to keep track of who is where, and who is online , ajax etc.

[shaunak]

You might want to learn a little about:
HTML
CSS

Since your page will be mostly static i dont think your need a full fedged CMS which will be horrible complex for a first time user.
Instead get wordpress
They have detailed setup instructions and an easy user interface.

For hosting you can use zendurl
Ps: zendurl offers a auto installer for wordpress.

[slugger]

Originally Posted by shaunak

You might want to learn a little about:
HTML
CSS

Since your page will be mostly static i dont think your need a full fedged CMS which will be horrible complex for a first time user.
Instead get wordpress
They have detailed setup instructions and an easy user interface.

For hosting you can use zendurl
Ps: zendurl offers a auto installer for wordpress.

d00d did you read the whole post b4 postin?
he first wants 2 start/run/mantain a forum?

html css seekhke aur wordpres use karke wo kya karega abhi

plz read all the previous posts b4 postin yaar!!!

BTW
@pt999, in case u wonderin wat CSS is

CSS stands 4 Cascading Style Sheets It is essentially a method of givin d browser instruction as to how a page should b made to look like in d browser window

[pt999]

thanx a lot guys for ur replies
slugger,ur words r inspiration to me

plz guide me for t following:

Originally Posted by slugger

Aslo pt999, 1 thing that I wanted to ask you was that, is this forum a part of some larger organistaion or is it your private pet project, because if it is the latter, then I would actually suggest not going for the professional setup that you are thinking of right away, but test the waters by starting a free forum

you could try using forumer.com

start a forum here, spread the word around, se how it is working, then se if it still holds your interest, and once you are convinced about your forum, then go for your own hosted forum

--yupp t forum 'll b my private project only.

--ok i'll make a free forum and test it first BUT wat if it works and then i want to host my own new forum; means how'll i transfer t people to new address coz they'll b hooked to t previous one only.

Please note that my repeated insistence on you reading Fast Track stems only from the fact that its content is top-class and reproducing the same over here is beyond the scope of my time. The detailed but simple manner in which they have explained stuf is really comendable

--plz tell me where can i find this???

BTW I hope you are aware of the fact that starting a forum is not the end of it, infact it is just the beginning. Because you will have to constantly monitor the forum, or delegate that task to somenoe else to ensure that spammers do not create frudulent account and then use your forum to indulge in unpleasent activities [leaving it to your imagination]. That is why this forum also has many mods/sup-mods/admins to do the dirty work

you need to keep all these in mind before venturing into the forum creation pursuit

--yes i m quite aware of these things and i've a few friends to help me out for t same.

btw
1)kindly tell me how would i earn if i register my free forum on google adseen
2)how would i get ads if i start my own site/forum; means 'll i've to contact
them or they people 'll contact me themselves once my forum gets
popular.
3)popular means how many hits per day shud i expect for (2)

thnx
tc cr

[slugger]

Originally Posted by pt999

--ok i'll make a free forum and test it first BUT wat if it works and then i want to host my own new forum; means how'll i transfer t people to new address coz they'll b hooked to t previous one only.

once your free forum is succesful and u decide to start ur your own dedicated forum, you can export the database from the old forum to the new one. and anybody who later visits the old forum, should b greeted with the message [you got to put up that message] of you shifting to a new location or if allowed they should be automatically redirected to the new forum. so now you have all members who will become members of the new forum automatically.

Originally Posted by pt999

--plz tell me where can i find this???

u cud try to lay ur hands on the DIGIT archive CD they had provided in their DEC 2006 issue
it has all the PDF editions
ifu dont get it from here ther u cud give d guys @ jasubhai a buzz/ mail askin 4 it. think u can buy it from them [y dont u give the mods of this forum a pm regarding this]

Originally Posted by pt999

btw
1)kindly tell me how would i earn if i register my free forum on google adseen
2)how would i get ads if i start my own site/forum; means 'll i've to contact
them or they people 'll contact me themselves once my forum gets
popular.
3)popular means how many hits per day shud i expect for (2)

thnx
tc cr

visit GOOGLE'S ADSENSE PAGE for all d details u want about ADSENSE, but go through it caefully cause it has various clauses viOlating which would terminate your account on adsense, and so no money. ADSENSE earning depends upon how many people visiting your site click on d ads dat appear on ur site, and not the no of hits you recieve on your site

d men in green and orange r d mods/admins, u may want 2 pm them regarding d old ssue/cd/dvd

http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showgroups.php

[pt999]

i've seen t google adsense site
1)just out of curosity i wanna know when does one get to recieve ads on the personal site [i m not talkin bout t google ads but t ads other than tat ]
means gimme some vague idea of t clicks per day on a particular site..........

2)also if i make a free forum (forumer.com) or a free website will i b able to get ads from google adsense???

thnx
tc cr

[slugger]

1) a] other ads wud mean sponsered ads, like u go 2 a co and tell them that u will put up a logo of their co on ur forum with a link to their cos website. in return they will have to pay you a manthly amount. Just like giving space on rent

b]it is not clicks per day. it is d total no of clicks dat user make. i think u will get d first cheque after users have made d 1000th click on d ad

2) Free websites u can enable ADSENSE, but forums, hmmmmm!!!,
forums i hange out dont have them [dis included], but i tihnk u can enable adsense of forums also, but personally it wud b a bg turn off 4 me on d forum
D adsense site must have sum info on it abt this

[Sukhdeep Singh]

Now, let me clear few doubts. First do not go for Free Forum hosters like Forumer and others, thats my suggestion

1. Get free hosting from somewhere and install forum script on your own or use Fantastico or Installatron if its a comes with those Addons in the Control Panel. Reasons are, this will allow you to customize the forum based upon your need. New mods/hacks, skins, etc. You can also use a CMS and make it the main INDEX page and link forum under it. Whn you get bigger, you can easily move to a new host without much troubles since everything remains the same

2. Regarding Google Adsense, Yes, you will have to apply for an account at www.google.com/adsense. After, they approve your account, you will get your ADS CODE which will have to enter at your site.

Forumer already has Google Ads but the ADS are "theirs" in order to compensate them for hosting you for free. You are not allwoed to use your own ADS AFAIK.

Google Adsense doesnt have a fix pay out for clicks. A click can be of 1 cent, can be of 1$. You just dont know. It depends. After you earn 100$, Google will mail you a cheque. Yes, you can use ads on forums as long as the forum doesnt break the TOS. I know hundreds of forums using Google adsense to earn hundreds of dollars a month. But that doesnt mean everyone does earn. Thousands of people earn just few cents a day out of Google Adsense

Any other doubts, do post

[slugger]

d00d d guy is new 2 computers and on top of dat a pysiotherapist [by no means did i mean dat 2 b offensive pt999]

do u want him 2 start playing with scripts right at the beginning itself.

it is like asking a guy who has just learned multiplications, to perform calculas [OK maybe not claculas but at least trigonometry]

he starts tryin 2 comprhend scrpits and stuf, gets overwhelmed and then leaves his forum pursuits
so wat cud have bben a gr8 forum goes butst bcos he tried 2 jump d gun instead of going 1 step @ a time

so dat it y i suggest forumer where he cud learn the tricks of the trade in a controlled environment and then once he acquires skills he can move on to better things

regarding adsense he wud earn n e thin only wen his forum bcomes popular
so if it bcomes popular he wud ne way shift to his own dedicated forum wer he can recieve ads of his choice

[Sukhdeep Singh]

Originally Posted by slugger

d00d d guy is new 2 computers and on top of dat a pysiotherapist [by no means did i mean dat 2 b offensive pt999]

do u want him 2 start playing with scripts right at the beginning itself.

Correct, But everybody has to learn someday or other day. Right

Everybody on the planet with millions of forums and blogs are a not tech dudes. Thats why there are step by step instructions at forum developer site on how to install the script, also to include a big community always waiting to help you out with probs like we are at the moment

Not to forget, Fantastico and Instrallatron which let you install it in less than 5 clicks

he starts tryin 2 comprhend scrpits and stuf, gets overwhelmed and then leaves his forum pursuits
so wat cud have bben a gr8 forum goes butst bcos he tried 2 jump d gun instead of going 1 step @ a time

Beleive me, he wont..if he lands here askin for help. He will again incase he is in trouble

[saurabh kakkar]

Originally Posted by sukhdeepsinghkohli

Correct, But everybody has to learn someday or other day. Right

Everybody on the planet with millions of forums and blogs are a not tech dudes. Thats why there are step by step instructions at forum developer site on how to install the script, also to include a big community always waiting to help you out with probs like we are at the moment

Not to forget, Fantastico and Instrallatron which let you install it in less than 5 clicks

first of all i am noob in this stream .

i have taken free space from tripod nd have successfully uploaded small web page on it using ftp

client . Now i want to try my hand in this forum part but i m not able to understand what

is this Fantastico and Instrallatron ? r they some software or what , if software plz provide the link to

download . plz help

[slugger]

dey r script library dat automates d task of publishing web content
Fantastico

[saurabh kakkar]

Originally Posted by slugger

dey r script library dat automates d task of publishing web content
Fantastico

link broken plz provide again

plz do tell me what is CMS nd the link for the same to download