16-04-2007, 05:47 PM
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Difference between http:// & http://www
I know this is a silly question, but I should not fear to accept that I don't know something.
So can anyone explain me why some URLs have only http://domainname & others have http://www or even now-a-days I noticed http://www# where # is some number.
What exactly the system behind such URLs?
Any text, link would be useful.
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16-04-2007, 05:55 PM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
www is like a subdomain and created by default on the servers.
You can have www1 www2 or whatever you want
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16-04-2007, 06:04 PM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
So how this entire website hosting process happens, as it seems u offer webhosting.....so what are the steps?
Client contacts u, register a domain name and web space, then what is the URL allocated to him/her? Is it http://domain.extension or http://www.domain.extension ?
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16-04-2007, 06:04 PM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
Even I want an explanation for this, the original question, that is.
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16-04-2007, 06:16 PM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
http:// means the second level domain and primary level domain only
For eg, in yahoo.com, yahoo is the second level domain and com is the primary level domain
http://www.yahoo.com means www is a host/computer located in yahoo.com
Similarly mail.yahoo.com also means a host named mail is found inside yahoo.com
Simple
For more details, google DNS Host and Other Entries
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16-04-2007, 06:48 PM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
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Originally Posted by titun
So how this entire website hosting process happens, as it seems u offer webhosting.....so what are the steps?
Client contacts u, register a domain name and web space, then what is the URL allocated to him/her? Is it http://domain.extension or http://www.domain.extension ?
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Like i said, by default both www and without www will be setup on the servers. Its upto you, if you want to edit the DNS and use www2 instead of www
A Pic gives a better idea
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16-04-2007, 06:58 PM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
Nice stuff here guys. Thanks 4 da info
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16-04-2007, 07:14 PM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
Ok..so where and how this DNS system is configured? I mean as the primary job of DNS is, when a user types a website URL, this DNS converts the TEXT URL to its corresponding IP address.
So where is this DNS situated? Is it configured in every server or some central location?
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16-04-2007, 07:20 PM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
Its upto you, some registrar will offer you DNS services and you can use their DNS service
Otherwise, you cant point you Domain to your host. They will have DNS entries on the server. Depending upon the Control Panel at your hosting...you may be able to change DNS on your own.
cPanel - the one you see above wont allow end users to change DNS entries but a reseller can have permission to do so.
DirectAdmin - This allows end user to manage DNS entries but most hosts wont allow you this permission
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16-04-2007, 07:29 PM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
nice
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16-04-2007, 07:50 PM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
^^ Yep  but somethimes due to DNS Propogation which might take upto 24hrs.....http:// might work while www may not and vice versa
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16-04-2007, 11:14 PM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
When you type http://www.daringfireball.net/ into the address bar, it automatically redirects to http://daringfireball.net/. Why does that happen?
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16-04-2007, 11:37 PM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
u may do it with 2 methonds, eithert with a simple URL redirector, or with apache mod re-write !!
in linux host u may create a file .htaccess , which can be configure to make sure any visitor which comes to www.domain.net would redirected to domain.net ([ http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mis...uide.html]Know more[/url]) and this is the best way to do it,
and with url redirector simple index.html files, with code,
Code:
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; url=http://example.com/urfile.html">
</head>
</html>
will redirect all visitors to a www less domain adrress !!
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17-04-2007, 12:21 AM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
Thanx all
nice info for me.
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17-04-2007, 03:11 AM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
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The DNS will have aliases that redirect when u type either www.daringfireball.net or daringfireball.net to daringfireball.net
Check it out
Type nslookup in Command Prompt
Then type daringfireball.net
U will get its IP as 4.71.165.89
Now type www.daringfireball.net
U will get its IP as 4.71.165.89 (same as daringfireball.net)
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17-04-2007, 04:49 PM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
www is not neccessary for the site adress but http:// is neccessary if it is http:// server.
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17-04-2007, 08:15 PM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
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Originally Posted by saurav_cheeta
u may do it with 2 methonds, eithert with a simple URL redirector, or with apache mod re-write !!
in linux host u may create a file .htaccess , which can be configure to make sure any visitor which comes to www.domain.net would redirected to domain.net ([ http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mis...uide.html]Know more[/url]) and this is the best way to do it,
and with url redirector simple index.html files, with code,
Code:
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; url=http://example.com/urfile.html">
</head>
</html>
will redirect all visitors to a www less domain adrress !!
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But why go through the trouble of all that redirection?
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17-04-2007, 08:17 PM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
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But why go through the trouble of all that redirection? 
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Some people jsut like to act smart with useless moves  LOL
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17-04-2007, 08:26 PM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
www =666 ?
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17-04-2007, 08:36 PM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
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Some people jsut like to act smart with useless moves  LOL 
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If someone like John Gruber does it, there has got to be some reason behind it. And I can bet my money that it will be an intelligent reason, not something as stupid and trivial as trying to act smart.
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17-04-2007, 09:16 PM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
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If someone like John Gruber does it, there has got to be some reason behind it. And I can bet my money that it will be an intelligent reason, not something as stupid and trivial as trying to act smart. 
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Ok, have your doubts...i dont have any
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17-04-2007, 10:38 PM
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Re: Difference between http:// & http://www
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But why go through the trouble of all that redirection? 
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well the person asked the question needed a solution !!  therefore i gave one which i know !!
Now why one would one to go with redirection... to me i had to use one with portal4webhost.com  (my site) which is running SMF in php 5 enviroment.. for some reason a SEO mod will only oparate under www stage therefore i used the .htaccess to redirect all http:// requests to http://www ones !! this is just a example... there are few application in some state they would need to oparate under either http://www or under http://....
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