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View Poll Results: WHO HAS MORE KNOWLEDGE A HACKER OR AN ENGINEER !
HACKER 20 46.51%
ENGINEER 4 9.30%
BOTH 13 30.23%
NONE OF THESE 6 13.95%
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Old 26-11-2006, 07:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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WHO HAS MORE KNOWLEDGE A HACKER OR AN ENGINEER .VISHAL I AM WAITING FOR UR OPINION BECOZ U KNOW WAT I AM WANT TO ASK.


MY VOTE IS GO TO THE HACKER
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Old 26-11-2006, 08:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I see no comparison between the two. Same like Geeks are various in kinds, there are art geeks and there are computer geeks. A hacker probably knows his networks the best while an engineer knows his machines of his subject well. No relation between the two.
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Old 26-11-2006, 08:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I quite agree with QM on this the thing is that they both are of different fields so there is no use of comparison between them by any chance.
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BOTH r MATERS OF THERE OWN WORLD
BOTH THINK THEY R THE ULTIMATE.....AND CAN DO NOTHING WRONG
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Old 26-11-2006, 08:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Can you be more precise. The word knowledge is way too ambigious in this case to even start discussing anything.
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yeah , please precise where u wanna compare ?
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I voted NONE OF THESE...As I got more knowledge than these two guys No problem,add my name now
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No offence, but that's a stupid question I'd say.
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id vote for both.. as qwerty said it each knows his art well..

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I voted "both" because 'hacker' know how to crack and 'engineer' know how to heal....
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In my opinion this thread makes no sense and is total BS. Instead of being in qnA this thread should be in chit chat.
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yes thts wat i ws thinking tarey_g
and for ur question hacker has more knowledge coz he cracks wat engineer has created...so clear winner!
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Old 27-11-2006, 12:52 PM   #13 (permalink)
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even though the definition of knowledge is vague as used in the question, I have voted for the hackers.
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Old 27-11-2006, 02:05 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Why do u think an engineer can't be a hacker ?
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i say both because wen developing something new 1 has to take various aspects into consideration thr is hope for something new urge to develop fast frustration due to failure and other tech aspects which at times refrain the original product tht comes out tobe fool proof and is at times most vulnerable ..... hackers hav the ready thing in front of them all they need to do is mess with it and once the engineer comes to know he knowing th original codes and the vulnerability can rectify it but hackers are also genius coz finding out weaknesses in others is ur biggest strength
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Old 27-11-2006, 02:23 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Do U even know the definition of both?
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Do U even know the definition of both?

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- Hacker is a term used by some to mean "a clever programmer" and by others, especially those in popular media, to mean "someone who tries to break into computer systems." 1) Eric Raymond, compiler of The New Hacker's Dictionary, defines a hacker as a clever programmer. A "good hack" is a clever solution to a programming problem and "hacking" is the act of doing it. Raymond lists five possible characteristics that qualify one as a hacker, which we paraphrase here:
  • A person who enjoys learning details of a programming language or system
  • A person who enjoys actually doing the programming rather than just theorizing about it
  • A person capable of appreciating someone else's hacking
  • A person who picks up programming quickly
  • A person who is an expert at a particular programming language or system, as in "Unix hacker"
Raymond deprecates the use of this term for someone who attempts to crack someone else's system or otherwise uses programming or expert knowledge to act maliciously. He prefers the term cracker for this meaning.
2) The term hacker is used in popular media to describe someone who attempts to break into computer systems. Typically, this kind of hacker would be a proficient programmer or engineer with sufficient technical knowledge to understand the weak points in a security system. For more on this usage, see cracker.

An engineer is someone who is trained or professionally engaged in a branch of engineering.[1] Engineers use creativity, technology, and scientific knowledge to solve practical problems. People who work as engineers normally have an academic degree (or equivalent work experience) in one of the engineering discipline
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An engineer can become a hacker , and a hacker owns some sort of Engg. skills.
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both of them concentrate on developing nd improving systems....
but generally a hacker is concerned with security issues and bugs.
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And the engineer is concerned with designing the systems
Engg. makes something nd hacker deals with security nd bugs issues..
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But as we all know only some ppl who go beyong ENGG. limits can b hackers....
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yes thts wat i ws thinking tarey_g
and for ur question hacker has more knowledge coz he cracks wat engineer has created...so clear winner!
I'd love to see a hacker crack an iron safe.
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Both have got different work.HAckers have specified knowledge,but a engineer is smthing different.A enginneer is all around developed.They r taught like that,so that they can work anything.
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A Hacker is a proven Engineer.
Engineer is any BE/B.Tech degree holders out of them many are actually not interested in Engineering.their geek level will be focused on some other track for sure.
So Hackers!
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None of These...Supandi from Tinkle has more Knowledge...he he he.
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Make that 3
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A Hacker is a proven Engineer.
Engineer is any BE/B.Tech degree holders out of them many are actually not interested in Engineering.their geek level will be focused on some other track for sure.
So Hackers!
thnx...my kind will surely appreciate ur reply...good to see ppl don't take us as criminals
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Both have got different work.HAckers have specified knowledge,but a engineer is smthing different.A enginneer is all around developed.They r taught like that,so that they can work anything.
no...i disagree...who says they can work anything...just give me id of a person ..i bet he won't be able to carry out even a single task i will give him/her(they will be possible and i will do it and mail u the results in case u don't believe)
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I see no comparison between the two. Same like Geeks are various in kinds, there are art geeks and there are computer geeks. A hacker probably knows his networks the best while an engineer knows his machines of his subject well. No relation between the two.
ya dere's no relation...but a hacker can be good in hardware and machines too...first go and learn a defination of hacker and then post ur comments....a hacker is person who likes to get under the hood..be it a hardware or software or a network..u r sayin all dis coz u know nothing abt hackers
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thats a dumbass question
man its so easy "ME"
And by the way am none a hacker or an engineer
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I would say a hacker, because "most" of the times hackers are self taught.As opposed to engineers who are from formal education.
An engineer most of the time is being guided by a predefined syllabus while he is learning.
Learning things without others help itself is a great thing (IMO).I don't want to start any war about this.This is my opinion.I know there are many engineering students here.

While comparing hackers with engineers I assume it is based on thier computer skills.A hacker is really profficient on the everything of a computer than an Engineer, only then he can "hack||crack"
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WHO HAS MORE KNOWLEDGE A HACKER OR AN ENGINEER .VISHAL I AM WAITING FOR UR OPINION BECOZ U KNOW WAT I AM WANT TO ASK.


MY VOTE IS GO TO THE HACKER
want to compare a fork and a spoon? both are used for eating food, only the purpose they serve for the same job is different.

same goes for hackers & engineers.
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