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View Poll Results: How can piracy be reduced ?
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A. By reducing the price (making it affordable).
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B. By making it more secure or hard to break.
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C. By catching those who copy illegaly.
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27-07-2004, 01:26 PM
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In that case, all the users will keep saying that they use it for non-commercial purpose. Only a survey/raid at the place of use can reveal the real use. :roll:
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28-07-2004, 12:46 AM
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Guys....My Vote is obvious
By making it more secure or hard to break.
Coz
Jus Imagine...we get a CD for Rs 13...only cd...whereas we also get the same cd in a box for Rs 30
we prefer...?? the Rs 13 cd..so its jus this thing which comes in...even if its Re 1 cheaper we go for that...
So the only POSSIBLE SOLUTION IN THE MARKET POINT OF VIEW IS TO MAKE CDS WHICH CANNOT BE COPIED....
OTHERWISE BAN CD WRITERS
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28-07-2004, 10:14 PM
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hmm make cds which cannot be copied..
well it wont be possible..and if anyone does then there will be crack for that also..
make things free for home users or may be keep rates low so that users can buy it..
if they cant buy it then keep option which allows to rent the OS from MS i.e. buy licence for 1 yr at around 500 rs or something..
i am dead sure many people will go for it..
you can stop piracy by banning anything..you have to make things more flexible..
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28-07-2004, 11:01 PM
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Yea Deep ...totally agree with ya...but this Rs 500 subscription should come out with somethin like Free Updates and service packs for the Subscibers...even books can be given...Jus to make sure they goto this plan
But since Cracks are easily available , there will be people who still prefer getting a pirated OS and installing .
So wht i want to convey is that ... the MS or any Firm should adopt certain ways and make the people come on their side
Whts the Point selliing Adobe Products for 30 K each ...when we can get the entire adobe set for Rs 30 ...
And for ur last option in Poll , No chance they can start that,,,may be in shops...but for Home PC's no way...if someone of tht sort raids ur house , wouldnt I know that ??
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28-07-2004, 11:14 PM
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Reducing the price is not gonna help much but making it more secure will. Let the hackers know where they stand.
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29-07-2004, 09:54 AM
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actually adobe and all are for doing b'ness
making money..
i know its slightly high price but its like paisa wasool thing..
and people like adobe and all dont care about the home users or small companies..
they know that 90% of the big companies buy their softwares and that what they want..
they are earnling a lot in that and at the same time they are giving something worth 30K..
yes crack and all will be there all the time but think like that..
currently xp pr is 7500rs and its damn costly and everyone knows that almost evrery year new OS releses so ppl think why to pay 7500 rs for 1 or 2 yrs..so ppl search for pirated versions than buying the copy..
but if it was like 1000 rs for a yr then less people will go for pirated versions..
piracy cant be stopped totally but it can be reduced this way..
and making more secure thing is like ongoing process..new loopholes are gonna come every other day.. so i think reduce the price will lower the piracy..
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31-07-2004, 11:42 AM
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only way of reducing piracy is reducing the prices.
that is the only way by which we can make people buy the original softwares.
i also suggest they should allow 2/3 simultaneous installations so that students can afford it together. who uses all the softwares all the time.
like adobe @ 5000 and 2 installations will make it affordable for the designing students and thats damn cheap if you are a professional in that field. and os prices should be kep[t minimum possible i would suggest 1500-2000 range for outright purchase for home and 3000-3500 for professional version.
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31-07-2004, 11:46 AM
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Nice blog gxsaurav. However, I do not agree somewhat. Linux is free. Or if you want CDs, it is available for a very low price - about Rs. 100. But how many are actually using it? It is as good as windows, if not better. Only thing is that for people who are used to windows, it takes time to familiarise.
Cost is not the only deciding factor. Here if the official version is available for Rs. 600 and an unofficial for Rs. 500, majority of people will go for the latter even is they can afford both.
Price reduction is not the only thing. A strong drive again piracy will be very effective. Micro$oft can be strong against pirates. Why is it not doing so? Because it fears that people will then go for Linux.
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02-08-2004, 01:12 AM
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dude...
will u buy some S/W frm the market..when u can get the same stuff @ much lesser price...rite outside the same shop from where u buy the S/W ...huh???will you???its INDIA...BUDDY.........
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02-08-2004, 09:41 AM
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Cost is not the only deciding factor. Here if the official version is available for Rs. 600 and an unofficial for Rs. 500, majority of people will go for the latter even is they can afford both.
Price reduction is not the only thing. A strong drive again piracy will be very effective. Micro$oft can be strong against pirates. Why is it not doing so? Because it fears that people will then go for Linux.
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actually i wont agree here..
if you reduce the price piracy can be reduced but it cant be like 0%
see there is a logic..
xp is 7500rs - 2 guys out of 100 buy it.
xp lincense is 1000 rs a yr - 20 guys out of 100 will go for it..
so they get new 18 people after reducing the price..
so that way they can reduce the piracy..
see there will be people who are not intersted in spending penny on any software but at the same time there are many people who wants to go for legal softwares but price is killing them..
and after this software companies can be strict againts the one who use pirated software..like blocking updates and all..
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02-08-2004, 11:26 AM
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Yes, reducing the prices will reduce privacy, but won't stop it. I re-read the title of this thread. It says "reducing piracy" and not "stopping piracy".
Anyway, what I mean to say is that price is not the only factor that is responsible for piracy. There are many factors which will influence it. Price is just one of them, not the only reason. But a strong drive against piracy by software companies as well as government will surely reduce piracy. But because of Linux, M$ is not going too strong against individual users. If they do, piracy will reduce and also the number of windows users.
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02-08-2004, 11:38 AM
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yes it's true piracy can never be stopped
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02-08-2004, 06:51 PM
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PIRACY CAN BE STOPPED .... EVEYBODY GO OPEN SOURCE !
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02-08-2004, 09:17 PM
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PIRACY CAN BE STOPPED .... EVEYBODY GO OPEN SOURCE !
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then Leeching and ripping will start lol
there are many experts who can rip the same code and change the makeup
haha
this thing can never be stopped but it can be reduced fro sure..
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02-08-2004, 11:03 PM
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man we should abandon the whole system of money, as star trek people used to say, we should work for the betterment of the human race, if everything in the world was free, there would be no theives, no bank robbers, no pirates, the only reason people would work would be to better the human race, to evolve  I reeeeeaaaallly like this idea .
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03-08-2004, 09:57 AM
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but waht the developers will do?
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03-08-2004, 02:01 PM
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the developers will evolve, most open source programmers and code gurus program to challenge themselves, to go into the next generation of programming,  well they'll do exactly just that ..
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21-05-2005, 01:36 PM
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making it harder to crack only means more trouble for the paying customer(look at windows xp)
catching piraters also will not help as aslong there is a demand for pirated stuff piracy will continue.
thus only method cut the problem at the bud, reduce price.
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21-05-2005, 03:24 PM
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WTF!!!! dude...are you crazy!! did you even bother to check what the date is on the last post b4 posting ???? 3rd August 2004!!!!!  mate stop bumping old posts...ur just cluttering up the forums!!
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