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Old 20-03-2006, 04:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I know i am a bit late,but can anyone pls rate the Ankit fadia book(An unofficial guide to ethical hacking) for me?Is it worth buying?Do i need any programming knowledge for it?
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Old 20-03-2006, 05:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This topic should help you. Personally I believe Fadia just ripped many tutorials from around the net and made an assorted tutorial. Its outdated too...
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This topic should help you. Personally I believe Fadia just ripped many tutorials from around the net and made an assorted tutorial. Its outdated too...
It isnt easy to collect a lot of cool tutorials and compile them to give a READyMADE-BooK......
The book can help u save some websearching
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Believe me if you tell this to some old timer they will laugh at you.
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I completely agree with Batty.
That fadia stuff is outdated now.
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outdated is the right word to describe fadia!!
moreover the best book you can get is "internet"..
search and search....u'll be able to find everything and anything you want !!
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Yea...i completely agree .....fadia....thats outdated!
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outdated fadia
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Old 21-03-2006, 12:59 AM   #9 (permalink)
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fadia now has a course in reliance webworld...6000 bucks for fee....ppl get all his freaking books which he plagiarized and see his shiny face on their monitors ...

all these stuff for a ethical hacking course....ppl get a "ankit fadia certified ethical hacker' certificate lolz
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that dood $ux ankit fartia :d whts there in searching for tutorials even my dead grandma wud do it without any issues
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hey dudes so which book is hitting the market now a days for ethical hacking.....
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Old 21-03-2006, 07:49 PM   #13 (permalink)
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So..which book is gud for info on hackin for beginners who has no programming skills!!!
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as said before...you cant learn a to z just by reading a book...and instead of book...searching on the net is cheaper and is much more convienient...there is 1000's of hacking books equivalent content on the net..
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Old 21-03-2006, 11:01 PM   #15 (permalink)
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This Tutorial for Newbies ( was not created by Me. )

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Contents

- Tips to becoming a hacker or Wanting to work with computers and Security
- Stuff you may want to think about and learn
- Before learning anything else
- Should also think about getting some of these on your box (for learning )
- A few good books to check out
- computer and Internet Terms (Small list)
- Links, Links & more Links / Other places to Hang out
- Tips

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Tips to becoming a hacker or wanting to work with computers and security

First thing most people will tell you is to use google ( www.google.com ). All ways use google before asking a question, Most the time google will answer your question within a few minutes. Also useing google will save you and me some time & also save space on digit for other people to post questions they did not find on google.

Also Read as many books as you can. Run to your local bookstore pick up a book look at it and see if you like the info it gives you. Make sertain it's a book you can read and understand. A book for a newbie is perfect if your first starting out.
And Remember we all were newbies when we first started and in some field of computers and Technology were a Newbie. So Don't feel bad!

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Stuff you may want to think about and learn

- A programming Languge (C, C++, Perl)
- TCP/IP
- Networking
- Unix based computers (linux, BSD, Solaris,)
- Learn and much as you can about windows also
- It might help to learn Social Engineering
- Just learn how a computer works and runs and the parts inside that make it work
Always learn new things and test what you learn with computers it's trial and error. Don't ever give up if you don't get something working the first time.

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Before learning anything else:

1. Learn about hardware - basicly how your computer works.

2. Learn about different types of software.

3. Learn your command line.

4. Learn how to make a few batch files.
Dos Batch Tutor1
Dos Batch Tutor2

5. Port scanning. ( download blues port scanner if it's your first time)
Blues Port Scanner

6. Learn a few programming languages
HTML,C/C++,Perl.... (i'd recommend learning Qbasic as your first lang)

7. How to secure yourself (proxy, etc)

8. FTP and telnet

9. Your protocols TCP/IP , UDP , SMTP, etc

10. Get your hands dirty with networking

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Should also think about getting some of these on your box (for learning )

An FTP client.
Fastream Netfile FTP Client
SmartFTP
AceFTP

A ping utility.
vPing
Inspyder Sonar

An IP scanner (also known as subnet scanner)
NetworkActive Scanner

A port scanner.
Advanced Port Scanner
Blues Port scanner

A whois and nslookup utility.
http://www.itoolpad.com

A traceroute utility.
Cain

A password cracker.
Cain

A CGI vulnerability scanner


A Net BIOS share scanner.


A finger client.


Compilers.
http://www.programmersheaven.com/zone24/cat351/

Cache rippers.


A brute force program of some sort.
Brutus

Sniffers.
Cain

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A few good books to check out

We tell you to check out books but we don't give any hints or ideas of what kind of books. Well I'll name a few books that may be of help to you.

- Hacking Exposed: Network Security Secrets and Solutions, Fourth Edition ISBN: 0072227427

- Google Hacks ISBN: 0596008570

- Hacking: The Art of Exploitation ISBN: 1593270070

- The Art of Deception: Controlling the Human Element of Security ISBN: 076454280X

- Dictionary of computer and Internet Terms (Eighth Edition) ISBN: 0764121669

- Gray Hat Hacking: The Ethical Hacker's Handbook ISBN: 0072257091

- Computer Security: Art and Science ISBN: 0201440997

- Networking in Easy Steps (In Easy Steps Series) ISBN: 0760753628

- Network+ & Network+ Practise Questions ISBN: 078973110X

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Computer and Internet Terms (Small list)

boot disk - A disk, diskette, or CD that can be used to BOOT (start up) a computer

TCP/IP - Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol A protocol for communication between computers, used as a standard for transmitting data over networks and as the basis for standard Internet protocols.

IP address - A computers unique "address" Every computer has one. This address is the way people that aren't on your computer see you as. Without an IP, websites wouldn't be able to "Remember" you so you don't have to log in everytime. Everyones local ip address is 127.0.0.1. This is how your computer looks at you. But it's not the same as your "Real" IP address which is how everybody else sees you. Quick example of an IP address:
198.3.45.236
There are 4 "subnets" and none of these "subnets" can be over 255.

MAC address - This address is also for your computer. HOWEVER, this address was given to you by your hardware manufacturer. This is NOT the same as your IP address

Skiddie (Script-Kiddie) - Someone that uses others programs with no intent to use or even try to make his own. Real hackers try and make their own programs and use others for examples or for when theres no point in writing a new one

Cracker - Someone that cracks computers for malicious reasons. Whether it be black mailing, carding obtained card numbers, or just ****ing someone over.

Sniffer - A hardware device or computer program for intercepting data packets as they pass throught a network either to test the network or to intercept other people's confidential data.

Trojan horse (Trojan) - a computer program with a hidden destructive function, such as erasing the disks on a specified date. Trojan horses are often distributed as conterfeit "new" versions of shareware products.

password cracker - is an application program that is used to identify an unknown or forgotten password to a computer or network resources. It can also be used to help a human cracker obtain unauthorized access to resources.

Compilers - Special programs that take instructions written in a high level language (e.g., Pascal, Fortran) and convert it into machine language or code the computer can understand.
Also called: Optimizing Compilers

FTP - ( File Transfer protocol ) a standard way of trasferring files from one computer to another on the Internet and on other TCP/IP networks..

Social Engineering -
"The ability to manipulate people, through social interaction and cause/response conversation, for the purpose of gaining informations or materials that would otherwise be unavailable, unobtainable or inaccessable through normal channels."

google - a widely used search engine for the world wide web, accessible at www.google.com and throught links on many other web sites. http://www.google.com/support Google support to help you get better results on your searches.

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Tips

From XraK

Learn from my mistakes. Before beginning your programming journey you need to have have a basic understanding of programming...

1. Pseudocode.
2. Algorithms.
3. Flow charts.
3. Constants, Variables, operators.
4. Expressions.
5. Statements, Statement blocks, Modules etc...
6. Binary, Hex
7. The fundamentals of a compiler.
8. What an interpreted language is.
9. What OOP is.
10. What an array is.
11. What an object is.
12. Data structure.
13. ASCII (for character codes I use - Lookuptables)
14. What ANSI is all about.


I advise you to go to Wikipedia - use this site for definitions and whatever. Or do what I often do for definitions - http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=define%3A&meta=

The mistake I made when I first got in to programming was learning parts of a language and then moving on . It really doesn't matter how many languages you know, its all about the logical understanding of how programming actually works that matters. Don't be fooled in to learning how to write **** like MS-DOS batch scripts/files as that's pretty irrelevant, It wont teach you "much" about real programming.

I advise you to learn Qbasic. REALLY learn it, don't just pick parts and move on (like I did at first).

Also one thing i kept forgetting for a while - You've got your entire life to become a decent coder, it certainly doesn't happen over night. Maybe in about 10 years time I'll be about as good as some of these guys that hang out here. Another thing I should mention (quote from one of Protocol 0's theories - "A true programmer will sit for hours and hours, or months and months in an attempt to overcome some of these, thought to be impossible battles." - That's one superb theory...

Anyway good luck


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Hey C()rrupt don't do that man, let them search you just created some hackers. If You know Something like this then shhhhhhhh!!!!!!

all peoples browsing this topic go to

www.happyhackers.org

search for me my username :-batman
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www.happyhackers.org

my browser says domain disabled. Google also says the same.
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Old 22-03-2006, 12:49 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Just a typo i think corrupt?? Is cain a traceroute utility as you have mentioned.

Maybe i overlooked something. I am going to look in to its code and try to find out
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which Operating System and which service pack you are using for your computer

the sites like happyhackers.org are sometimes disabled by default in sp2
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hmm....in taht book list by c()rrupt, i seem to have almost all books.....

bye the way, if anyone needs to be an ethical hacker, first you;ve gotta be a hacker, you know,

you've gotta learn dark magic if you need to fight dark magic(read somewhere in harry potter)

of course, you can be possibly consumed by the dark side, but even then you'll be a really good hacker...(read somewhere in star wars...Master Yoda says this)

so all im saying is start hacking yahoo and msn passwords first, then move on to other stuff....
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yeah i run winxp with sp2. Any way around if it is blocking?? But still when i googled for the site, even google said that it's domain was disabled.
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hmm....in taht book list by c()rrupt, i seem to have almost all books.....
toh konsa tir mar liya.....

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bye the way, if anyone needs to be an ethical hacker, first you;ve gotta be a hacker, you know,
you've gotta learn dark magic if you need to fight dark magic(read somewhere in harry potter)
of course, you can be possibly consumed by the dark side, but even then you'll be a really good hacker...(read somewhere in star wars...Master Yoda says this)
yup , its true but if u again change the side from cracker to ethical hacker.....the last thing u get is trust, believe me

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so all im saying is start hacking yahoo and msn passwords first, then move on to other stuff....
u think hacking yahoo n msn passwords is a joke ??????
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Huhuh, I agree with @corrupt .....hacking yahoo and msn pass.. is no joke
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It is supposed to be happyhacker.org? Cos that's what google threw up and that's working fine.
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tech_yourfuture, thanx man! I guess i was trying for hh.com. thanks for the correction. I got the site. BTW, i am going to read that book, The heretic. Is it any good??
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There's also a yahoo group for it if I remember right but its inactive.
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Gawd, i read around 5 pages. It seems like it was written by a 12 year old guy who is into body piercings. chair with lion claws, input gloves. What is literature coming to ??

I will give that book a skip i think and go read some msdn pages
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U just Don't Require Knowledge But U should Be Expert.
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Is Ankit fadia that bad?
I am Ankit Fadia's fan,but he has been accused of copying other contents.....
Now I am loosing my confiedence over him?

No legal actions were taken against him..Remember the recent incident Of Kavvya Vishwanathan.
Ps--He is in the Stanford Unv,One of the best unv in the world!! HOw was he able to get their??

Whats ur opinion?
Have a look at my avatar, its a photograph of Ankit fadia....
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