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Old 16-10-2004, 08:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey!
Im sure many of us will agree that at some time or the other weve been tempted to use pirated s/w given all its alluring advantages.
But how come cds cant be copy-protected?
Does the advent of dvds help in curbing this problem?
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Old 17-10-2004, 02:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Many of us??
Maybe all of us.
And we arent tempted its in our nature.
And CDS can be copyprotected but the crackers are too smart.
With DVD s.
Yes
to some extent.
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Old 17-10-2004, 12:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well mate thats what we consider in India as and when the price of a commodity is lesser we tend to buy that.So its clearly in our nature cause its the best bargain for us(even though ethically its wrong).Well Cd's are mostly copyprotected like for now the latest sony Audio cd copy protection technology which does not let a cd-rom drive detect its music tracks thereby renderin it useless on pc's...so no ripping if we think...but thats far from over as some crackers have developed a way of breaking that technology as well...well that i can't disclose for now(can't break the forum rules) all i can say is that crackers are way ahead of the copy protection of any companies....Dvd well i used to think it could be more copy protective but alas it too can be broken up....cause first i was told that i could not copy the content of a original DVD movie onto ur hard disk...but hey when i had used the disk i found out that easily by copy pasting the .vob files i had the movie on my hard disk....so whats the copy protection rule here....nothing well anyways the point is that piracy is inevitable...so dont bother to curb it but avaiod buying those pirated stuff thats all u can do for now (If u can That is lol).
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Old 17-10-2004, 02:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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well..

I guess.. u just need to crack one copy and u can make a million copies!.. so piracy cant be stopped anyway..
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Old 17-10-2004, 02:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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man dvd`s will soon become the norm for transfering say two three games in one disc... now that`s piracy at its best ...
but well i can`t live without .p*****.. cause had it not been for p***** then i don`t think i would have had a pc in the first place!..lolz..
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Old 17-10-2004, 02:08 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 17-10-2004, 02:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
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lol @ imgame

Cracking has one theme!!!

If it runs it can be defeated!!!

The only way piracy can be defeated it by making people to buy softwares.
But if u force them to buy then people will look for alternatives and piracy can be stoped but that will take real long and by that time OSS will be all over

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Old 17-10-2004, 02:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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BTW check out this link
http://www.journal.com.ph/news.asp?p...y=29&year=2004

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Old 17-10-2004, 02:35 PM   #9 (permalink)
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do u think cooljeba ..that making ppl buy software will stop it ......do u know most of the games /software are ripped or cracked in US ...though the rules there are really though .....and the software/games are in ppl's reach(not costly as here in india ) ........thats the way world goes dear !

DVD's are the newest in the queue .......and already u can get any movie DVD for 80/- ........
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Old 17-10-2004, 03:19 PM   #10 (permalink)
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i think whatever is introduced crackers will always find a way to pirate it.
thats their business...
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Old 17-10-2004, 03:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
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check digit September 2002, page 88
it's got everything u need
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Old 17-10-2004, 03:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
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i just wanted to point the brighter side .........
i wanted to tell something but can't say...... hope u got it!!

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Old 17-10-2004, 03:53 PM   #13 (permalink)
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i got ur point .....but my point it is not a feasible solution !
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Old 17-10-2004, 04:39 PM   #14 (permalink)
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who wants to buy the stuffs, when i can get them for rs50 ..on a sony cd?

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Old 18-10-2004, 12:39 AM   #15 (permalink)
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The Problem is Simple, Solution alas! isnt,
Most of us are too poor to spend so much...
As far as i know, Games Are Way TOO OVERPRICED!!
Consider this i play doom3 more like a technology drool.... (see what's the big deal about the game..) Now u tell me that i need to spend 1500-2500 for a Game, Thats bull sh*t. I get the game, if im not happy with it can i return the Game? No. (Interesting U can get speakers for that money.. cost of 2 such games=Altec Lansing ATP3!!)

So its simple... I can wait for 20Hrs to download full game or Payup 150 Bucks and get the game...
The truth is Indians are just not ready to pay 1500 for a game or 6000 for an OS or 13k for Office Suite...

Coz Ms OS +Ms Office + 3Games = 23,500!!! (thats how much most of the PC's Cost!!).
So the solution..? Reduce the price... Bring the price to a point , where it becomes difficult for Pirates to sell.
Look @ the mobile sector... The price dif between Billed and Non-Billed Grey Market is so thin that many ppl are opting for Billed Phones...
S/W industry should learn from that...
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Old 18-10-2004, 12:53 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Hey any one heard of open source
so u got solution for it
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Old 18-10-2004, 03:14 AM   #17 (permalink)
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allajunaki is right..!!!But the prob is sw vendors still like to see people cracking their sw and using its pirated copy rather than justify its price and make people pay for that
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Old 18-10-2004, 06:37 AM   #18 (permalink)
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i said the same thing b4
OSS = Open Source Software

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Old 18-10-2004, 01:08 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Piracy is gonna b there till the time one can afford to buy and use the s/w one is accustomed to using on his/her PC.

Its the MRP that promotes piracy.
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Old 18-10-2004, 05:45 PM   #20 (permalink)
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yes they should reduce their price atleast they get something instead of their s/f getting pirated...
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Old 18-10-2004, 06:00 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Not every buddy have a capebal to Buy the Orignal Stuff..!!

and No buddy have A MONEY TREE so he / she can buy a that regulary stuff..!!
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Old 18-10-2004, 06:12 PM   #22 (permalink)
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If rules are strictly implemented to avoid use of pirate software than I can imagine people switching to Linux as that will be the option left out aleast for those home users as well as small scale commercial users like cyber cafe. Even though its not as user friendly as Windows but people would like to spend on hardware but its difficult to imagine of buying software for equivalent money.
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Old 18-10-2004, 09:32 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Noone can prevent piracy till the prices go down.of some 50 friend i have none of them has ever paid for a software/game.
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well us indains.. will never be ready to shell out money. when they hav a cheap alternative.. its in our nature to sav the paise's.. so i thnk piracy has a very bright future in india
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There are more crackers in this world that cd protector softwares and companies.
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Old 19-10-2004, 02:14 PM   #26 (permalink)
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eveyine is doing piracy..
Once Pirate said he bought GTA Vice City for Rs100/-
that's very true..
When i was in ganglore i went to national market with my freinds to check it..
amazingly i found a lot of game cd's there.. all selling for Rs75/- pr cd..
i bought maxpayne 2 and collin mc rae rally.
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Old 19-10-2004, 03:29 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Dear friends

in many city of india..!!

u can buy any software,mp3,movie in 20 Rs./CD

and 100 RS/DVD...!!!!

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Old 20-10-2004, 08:01 PM   #28 (permalink)
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wow in my place u dont a game les than 30$
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Old 21-10-2004, 03:53 PM   #29 (permalink)
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these days huge cost for all an example, win98 cost around 6000 bugs(not so sure) but a pirated cd cost 100 only! same as games also cost nearly 1000 for original but pirated at 100-250!. that why peoples choose pirated.
the only way 2 stop that piracy is 2 reduce the cost of the products!
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But if software companies reduce costs, how will they manage to supply us with quality products ? And as long as they keep on churning out quality products, they will need to recover their costs, resulting in high prices.
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