07-10-2004, 02:02 PM
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anyone is having motorola E398 ...?
Hi all,
i recently bought my new mobile "Motorola E398" ... it is superb but i found out some problems with that ... if anyone clarifies i wud b grateful ..
1) On using the mobile tools BVRP software ... while i try to access "Removable memory(MMC)" it shouts saying "Access denied(0x4f)" ... it means i can only use that 4MB phone memory and leave the 60 MB mmc card just for show ... help me in this
2)How to search for bluetooth devices in my premises ... i followed the instructions given on the manual .. but i always says no bluetooth devices r found ... but other friends of mine r able to connect to my bluetooth and able to transfer files in and out ... v r sitting just nearby and testing that .. still then i was not able to find but he is able to .. why this happens..?
3) Which Video playback does this device supports ... i have tried to import mpg,avi,divX .. i accpets nothing and just shouts ... "unrecognized video format ...blah blah blah .." ... as per the manual it says it can palyback MPEG4 video ... which format is that ...?
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07-10-2004, 07:27 PM
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mate,
I got the same phone. Got no such issues. Transferred mp3's onto the card and plays nicely. Check whether u got the card inserted into the slot probably. You can check this when u goto the sounds menu and then click on the centre button in that u have an option change storage device select that and then u will get phone or trans. Select trans. If this works then u will get a list of whats there on the trans memory. It will have one song by default. So then its working fine so check it.
2) I jsut activate my bluetooth and it works fine. Dunno why urs gives issues...take it back to the dealers and ask him to show u how it works.
3) It supports mpg4 playback mate. thats mpg but it should be mpg4 format. open the file u want to transfer in windows Media Player in ur PC and then see the properties of ur file. It should say mpg4.
Hope this helps
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08-10-2004, 02:22 PM
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i am able to access trans contents from phone ... but how to transfer some mp3 to trans ... using the mobile tools ... by default it goes only to phone memory ... thatz the problem ..
i will chk that bluetooth with the dealers .. no probs ..
is there any conversion tool to convert mpg to mpg4 format?
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08-10-2004, 02:52 PM
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Wise Old Owl
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Will check on ur trans issues and let you know.
There are plenty of mpg4 converters. Virtualdub is one. And then theres tmpgEnc. But I wouldnt really suggest using mpgs in ur trans adapter. It has only 64 MB memory and cant really hold movies on that!
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08-10-2004, 05:15 PM
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since both of u guys have motorola E398 so i have a que..
what's this moto 3D surround sound all about? does it really plays tones in stereo mode, and how r the effects??
thx in advance..
Enjoy
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08-10-2004, 06:13 PM
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yup...3D surround sound is pretty good actually. While playing mp3 and normal midi ring tones. Its gone one of the best sounds I would say....I have used Nokia, Sony Ericsson and Samsung and now Motorola. As far as sound is concered its the best. I would say only thing better is the SOny Ericsson with the headphones cos Sony (ofcourse) has better head sets!!
3D sound : Well usually when you have a handset the mic is located in one place and the speaker device is located in one location. SO usually if you get a ring tone thats too loud all u need to just press the speaker loc and the sound gets muted to a large extent. however with the E398 the sound comes from multiple locations. Top side middle and all. And hence even makes the speakerphone facility very very effective.
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09-10-2004, 11:38 AM
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hi im looking forward 4 buying moto e398
is it really a good piece in comparison 2 nokia and sony eric and does it have a fm in it
how is the camera
can we put an extra memory to it 4 storing more mp3s and vids
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11-10-2004, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by akitosforever
hi im looking forward 4 buying moto e398
is it really a good piece in comparison 2 nokia and sony eric and does it have a fm in it
how is the camera
can we put an extra memory to it 4 storing more mp3s and vids
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nice mate!.
When you are asking in terms of comparisons there are a few things which you need to tell me. What is the main purpose for buying the phone ? the E398 has bluetooth and GPRS so that gives u all the connectivity u need. Doesnt have an IR port but then IR is crap neways. Has a built-in mp3 player and the player is pretty good the surround sound is actually pretty damn good. read what I posted earlier. The one thing where this phone scores is the battery life. I charge it once is 3-4 days. It has a .8 Mega pixel VGA camera. And to it that it plays mpg4 clips.
It comes with a 64 MB memory stick and I heard that a 128 MB memory stick costs around 1500 bucks....it has quality ringtones. It doesnt have video capture capabilites. Sony Ericssons battery sucks big time...
I need more info on what ur exactly lookin for...
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11-10-2004, 07:20 PM
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is there fm radio ,and how is the cam clarity, which other piece wud suggest if not this in the same price range.fm radio is as must
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12-10-2004, 02:37 PM
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there is no fm radio out there in this model ... and as far as the cam clarity .. it is good ... u can go upto the resolution of 640x480 ... and it looks good even in that ...
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12-10-2004, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by suave_guy
since both of u guys have motorola E398 so i have a que..
what's this moto 3D surround sound all about? does it really plays tones in stereo mode, and how r the effects??
thx in advance..
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This is the first model in the MARKET which features stereo speakers ... that moto 3D sound means the effect is good in a calm environment ... so as like the a typical stereo speakers ... but when u r into some cacophony environ ... it is better to keep that in ur pocket with vibrator on ....
it will play the MP3s as tho` u r hearing in some playa ... chk it out .. if u r satisfied .. buy it ... remember it costs around 15600
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12-10-2004, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by akitosforever
hi im looking forward 4 buying moto e398
is it really a good piece in comparison 2 nokia and sony eric and does it have a fm in it
how is the camera
can we put an extra memory to it 4 storing more mp3s and vids
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nice mate!.
When you are asking in terms of comparisons there are a few things which you need to tell me. What is the main purpose for buying the phone ? the E398 has bluetooth and GPRS so that gives u all the connectivity u need. Doesnt have an IR port but then IR is **** neways. Has a built-in mp3 player and the player is pretty good the surround sound is actually pretty damn good. read what I posted earlier. The one thing where this phone scores is the battery life. I charge it once is 3-4 days. It has a .8 Mega pixel VGA camera. And to it that it plays mpg4 clips.
It comes with a 64 MB memory stick and I heard that a 128 MB memory stick costs around 1500 bucks....it has quality ringtones. It doesnt have video capture capabilites. Sony Ericssons battery sucks big time...
I need more info on what ur exactly lookin for...
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Hey!!
SE batteries don't suck
I charge my T610 every 3 days with moderate usage, I don't think its that bad
Many ppl have battery probs with SE because they don't charge the battery to its full extent in the first charge(16 hrs)
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12-10-2004, 11:39 PM
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I have heard there's no video recording software in it. Can't there be a third party application for it I searched the net for but couldn't find any?
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13-10-2004, 09:31 AM
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If ur really gonna be spending upto 15K, go for a symbain based fone
Maybe i feel that way, cuz i own an iPod... I was thinkin of pickin up the Ngage QD, but i decided to buy more clothes, So now i gotta wait for a while
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14-10-2004, 01:57 PM
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Abhijit - SE batterys suck big time. Try using any of the features such as GPRS bluetooth camera, mp3 player and the SE battery runs out on u faster than u can say chicken...lol....I know cos I owned an SE and battery life was a big let down. Not so with the E398... it lasts for 4 days b4 I need to even think of rechargin it.
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14-10-2004, 07:16 PM
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i use infrared for about 1 hour almost every day, but i can still get about 3 days
The only problem i've seen is that if u switch off ur phone, and then switch it on again immediately, there is a lot of battery drain
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17-10-2004, 12:19 PM
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Guys Guys, help me out, need a phone, cam based, first time bying a mobile, I m confused between K500i & Motorola E398, plz someone tell me the cost of these phones, & also the included stuff, bluetooth is not a priority
K500i is all I need, enough for me, so if it is cheaper then E398 I will go for K500i
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18-10-2004, 12:44 PM
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gx :
Both are good and the price is really no big diff k500i comes at 15k and the motorola at 14500. Check whats the pixel support in K500i. The E398 comes with .8 megapixel for the cam and supports upto 640x480 resolutions. K500i comes with video capture facility also so u mgiht think abt that. Both are good...E398 looks damn slick tho! Its one the slickest I have seen!! Seriously have a look at the phone...and decide for urself...and the mp3 player with surround is damn good...so check it ut.
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18-10-2004, 01:14 PM
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I talked to sr_ultimate, I m going for K500i, I won't be using the mfone as a mp3 player, & for my requirments 8 MB of K500i is enough, I won't be storing mp3 etc, simple fone functions
Since I need a cam phone, how is cam quality for both of them compared
Since K500i can record video & in 3GP format, 1 mins is about 600 KB so I can spare 6 MB for video before syncing with PC for 10 mins video
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18-10-2004, 01:41 PM
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not bad....E398 comes with mpg4 support and comes with a 64 MB memory card. If your main purpose is for shooting pics then K500i is good. But do check the battery life. SE's by history have a bad battery life as it is. They dont come for 2 days even. So beware of that. Also check the pixels support for K500i. I cant seem to find the info at the mo.
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18-10-2004, 06:49 PM
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Well, I check & U can also check the Webpage of SE K500i
It has resolution of 128X160 pixels, 65K colors , 12 MB memory, but thats enoguh memory for me, I can even record video with K500i at 600kb/min size in 3gp format, it also plays mpeg4 & mp3 files just like E398, but the best thing is that the Phone OS is a lot faster then E398, this is my personal experience by using both of them
I cannot record video with E398, even if I have 64 MB memory, also I use data cable when I m at home to sync file & IrDA at my institute so bluetooth is also useless for me
Battry isn't a problem, it will go fine for 1 day with me & after that I will be charging it in the night anyway, be it Nokia Samsung,LG or whatever, also there are more powerfull spare battries from SE, which I can use insted of the default one for Rs 500 more, which is good but not required cos I will be chargin my phone every nite
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18-10-2004, 07:57 PM
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If the battery is not an issue then go for it. I like the Sony Ericsson except for the battery which is crap. Also if you can wait for the SE S700....now thats an amazin fone...
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18-10-2004, 10:15 PM
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This wait thing will never end, if I wait for S700 then I wall again wait for the fone which will come 2 months after that, so better get what U need
S700 when released will be a high end model & will take time for costs to come down, so then I would have to wait for 6 more months, hey, I need a phone not a PC, I have been using a Nokia 3315 till now
SE S700 preview
This is more like a cam with phone, what I need is a phone with cam
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19-10-2004, 06:21 PM
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mate, once u buy a SE, u'll never go back to another brand ever
SE just rocks!!!!!!!
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19-10-2004, 08:39 PM
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what about SE K700i??
my frnds says that this phone is the exact rival for motorola E398..
Gx before buying K500i do check out K700i
one more thing k700i has a 4X digital zoom, i'm not sure whether 500i has got that..do compare them and obviously the prices also before deciding..
Enjoy
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19-10-2004, 10:34 PM
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K500i can be better termed as K700i minus
Bluetooth
Only 12 MB memory out of which 8 MB is for user
Low screen resolution, but big screen, good for images
Besides, K700i is Rs 6000 costly, I m taking half the money from Dad, as I m saving for Bike, still 11k more to go for Unicorn
The cam of K500i & K700i is same, they both support 4X digital zoom
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22-10-2004, 08:47 PM
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Guys, I got my K500i, the cost is Rs 13,500, while there was an excnage scheme for this that I can just exchange my old mobile to get Rs 2k off, so I exchanged my old Nokia 3315 to get it for 11,500. The K700i was 19K.
Ok, now to the specs, it is much like K700i except for a few things
1) No bluetooth, only data cable or IrDA, I will be using IrDA, but I haven't baught the Module, due to closed market today will buy on Monday. I m downloading the Syncing software from Sony rite now
2) It has infact 16 MB memory, out if which, 4 MB is reserved for the OS in which we can't do anything, rest 12 MB is available for me to use, I deleted a lot of useless contents, it came with video clip of Main Hun na, & Ishq samunder which was taking about 900 kb/min & it was about 40 sec each, so now I have 11.2 MB of free memory to spare
3) Video Recording is just like a webCam, to bad I can't use it as a webcam, but the frame rates are low. The cam is really good, my family members thaught it as real cam & told me to take snaps of my niece & sister, however at 4X Digital Zoom the image becomes really grainy, but still bearable, I take images at 640X480, at which it is quite good,
5) Calculating by the memory, I can record about 14 Mins of video in mpg4 formar, which can be played in PC by Quicktime or Real One player
6) Orange backlight & there are 3 themes given, I m using the modified Matalix theme & named it Lab Style, mine
7) U can have Midi & mp3 ringtones, even a full song however a ringtone of 20 secs is recomended by sony at max
8) it has really nice & closest OS to Windows, but a bit flawed, I m also downloading a new firmware, which I will be able to install over IrDA or Cable, it's not slow, but applying effects on Pictures takes a lot of time, I gues it's a 33MHz CPU or Less. The file system is folder\files based, really clsoe to Windows.
9) It has power saving mode, & even in direct sunlight the screen is still visible enough to read & write clearly, but a bit dim, took only 1.4 hrs to charge from 30% to 100%, the retailer said it lasts 2 days without charge. Even if U close the phone the larm & reminder still works. When in standby mode the screen goes compleately black but a Digital clock is still available in bright silver color which can be seen clearly
Now the bad thing, the keypad is small, even for me, but now after 3 hrs of usage I m used to it.
Those who write SMS all the time, be careful this small keypad might obstruct
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Going to play now, with my phone
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22-10-2004, 10:08 PM
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Hey gx
U bought a SE - great choice!!!!
A few things though-
1> Why r u downloading the syncing software?Didn't u get it on the SE CD?
2>Download Theme Creator Pro 3G if u want to create ur own themes.Its much better than the SE Theme Creator
3>Download FMA, its a must use for SE users
4>U won't be able to upgrade ur firmware via cable or infrared.The firmware can only be upgraded through a developers cable, known as the terminator cable
Also, upgrading firmware urself is not recommended, as its like flashing ur bios - one mistake and ur phone is dead forever
I recommend taking it to a SE service centre.They should do it for free as the phone is under warranty
Oh, and upgrading the firmware is highly recommended, as it really fixes some major software bugs
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22-10-2004, 10:18 PM
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The syncing software I got in CD is old version, so I m downloading the latest version
http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?...=6997&esi=true
I don't want to create a theme rite now, as I m first creating icons for it in my PC
What is FMA
& the firmware, ok, I will take it to the service guy, hey can U tell me how can I find which firmware version I got in this cell
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22-10-2004, 10:54 PM
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FMA(Float's Mobile Agent) is one of the best pieces of software created for SE phones
It allows u to easily send files to ur phone, browse ur phone, and even control ur PC via ur phone!!!
Abt ur firmware version - U can find out by the following code-
> * < < * < *
'>' stands for joystick right
'<' stands for joystick left
After entering the above code, u will be in the service menu, click on service info, and u'll see ur firmware. Its a code which starts with the letter 'R'
There are chances that ur phone already has the latest firmware
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