For sale two ASUS Gforce4Ti4200 and one MSI FX5200

[tarey_g]

For sale two ASUS Geforce4Ti4200 2.5 yrs of warranty remaining on both from RPtech .

Ti4200 for 7500/- each

and 11 months warranty remaining on MSI FX5200 3700/-

[anidex]

Ti4200 for 7500 bucks? You gotta be kidding me!

[Prashray]

This would have been better suited at the Bazaar section.

[pradeep_chauhan]

Is it negotiable or a fixed price?
I think the price is a bit on the steeper side.

[tarey_g]

Originally Posted by pradeep_chauhan

Is it negotiable or a fixed price?
I think the price is a bit on the steeper side.

pradeep you cant expect a fx5700 or 5900 for just 7000/- i will consider some discount if u r serious abt buying it .

and i will post this topic in the bazaar section again for the convinience of other users

[AlphaOmega]

Hi,
I got a ASUS GeForce4 Ti4400. It has 2.5 years of warranty from Zeta. Complete with box game and software CDs, bill, proof of purchase, manuals etc. It is in perfect condition, not much used. 275 core and 550 RAM (DDR). Purpe PCB and Silver heatsink with fan. Runs cool.

Price Rs. 7,900/-

If the buyer lives in Delhi, or Jaipur or Baroda (or nearby - western India), I will personally deliver the card, so that the buyer can test it and be satisfied. If the buyer lives elsewhere, we could arrange something.

A friend has got a Ti4200 for Rs. 7,200/-.

[blade_runner]

Originally Posted by tarey_g

pradeep you cant expect a fx5700 or 5900 for just 7000/- i will consider some discount if u r serious abt buying it .

and i will post this topic in the bazaar section again for the convinience of other users

Ofcourse he can expect a Fx5700 pure version for 7k and a 5700LE for 5.4k. The prices quoted are way too steep, since the cards are available for 6.5k i guess.

EDIT: GEFORCE TI 4200 128MB for 4.9k

[tarey_g]

Originally Posted by blade_runner

Ofcourse he can expect a Fx5700 pure version for 7k and a 5700LE for 5.4k. The prices quoted are way too steep, since the cards are available for 6.5k i guess.

5900 for 7000/- u gotta be kiddin. if someone is really serious in buying my cards i'll consider some discount 8)

here are the scores of the cards


Test system -
Pentium 4C 2.4GHz with Hyper-Threading
Intel 865GBF Motherboard
256x2MB Kingston 400MHz DDR-3200 (Dual Channel)
Seagate 80GB HDD - 7200 RPM


3dMark 2001 se

FX 5200 ------------------- 5992 3d marks
Ti 4200 ------------------- 11640 3d marks
Ti 4400 ------------------- 12510 3d marks


3d Mark 2003

FX 5200 ------------------- 692 3d marks
Ti 4200 ------------------- 1733 3d marks
Ti 4400 ------------------- 1798 3d marks

[blade_runner]

Since u dint read properly lemme point out

a Fx5700 pure version for 7k and a 5700LE for 5.4k.

[i.am_mayur]

i dont believe it fx5200 performs worse than ti4200 ??!!

somethings wrong with 3dmark ? or am i misinformed ?

[theraven]

actually yeah .. the gf4 is a better card than an fx 5200 ... as in power wise
technology wise fx 5200 is better ... but it doesnt run that well

[blade_runner]

Yeah those 3dmark03 scores look a bit fishy, the fx5200 shud achieve more marks then the Ti since the fx is a DX9 card and the Ti isnt.

[pradeep_chauhan]

come on guys i am new to all this jargon just give a digital output
1=BUY
0=No Buy
Help PLEASE

[tarey_g]

Originally Posted by blade_runner

Yeah those 3dmark03 scores look a bit fishy, the fx5200 shud achieve more marks then the Ti since the fx is a DX9 card and the Ti isnt.

For the info of all users here ....i hav both the cards tested on same system and i hav displayed the scores as they were. Why dont ppl understand that although 5200 is one generation ahed of the ti series BUT THE CARD(5200) IS A LOW END CARD IN ITS SECTION .AND IT IS WEAKER THAN THE Ti SERIES.

[tarey_g]

Originally Posted by i.am_mayur

i dont believe it fx5200 performs worse than ti4200 ??!!

somethings wrong with 3dmark ? or am i misinformed ?

Haha this is the funniest thing i have ever heard . Go and check some good hardware sites . u need a good class abt gpu performances.

[blade_runner]

Originally Posted by tarey_g

For the info of all users here ....i hav both the cards tested on same system and i hav displayed the scores as they were. Why dont ppl understand that although 5200 is one generation ahed of the ti series BUT THE CARD(5200) IS A LOW END CARD IN ITS SECTION .AND IT IS WEAKER THAN THE Ti SERIES.

Yeah maybe then u cud post some screenies or links to ur scores.

[AlphaOmega]

blade_r man, you really need to read! architecture ain't worth jack, if the card is not powerful enough to implement the new features. I can bet anything you want that the ti series will outperform all 5700 pure (forget le). Go over to www.3dnews.ru and try to find a comparison of 80 gpus. They have it in an excel file. Highly informative. E.g.

Splinter Cell (1024)
--------------------
ti4200 = 27.9
5700 = 18.7

UT 2003
---------------------
ti4200 = 82.2
5700 = 72.2

of course, there are a lot more tests. Pradeep, the ti series still packs a good punch. If you have money to spare, do not go for anything less than the FX 5700 ultra (though, imho, it does not give good value for the money it demands) or the Radeon 9600XT.

I can mail the excel sheet to anyone that requires it.

The ti being offered is a good deal (you can negotiate a bit).

1, definately 1.

[AlphaOmega]

ok blade_runner, since you want scores, how about I mail you my 3DMark03 file? I got approx. 1850. I can also send a 3DMark03 report of a fx5200 on a 2.6c with 512 RAM with got less than 900 marks. a ti can get 12,000 marks in 3DMark 2001, while the fx5200 can barely manage 8000. I can prove all I am saying.

Also, playing doom3 or far cry on any FX less than a fx5700 ultra is like a kick to the groin . A Ti can handle even these newer games quite handily, and I have read reports that Half-Life 2 runs quite well on it (reports based on CS:Source)

Pradeep, you don't have to believe me. Ask around if you want. I can send you a lot of documents if you wish, but I think that you will prefer to find out yourself.

[AlphaOmega]

Pradeep, I won't recommend going for the FX series. Any FX below 5900 is a waste. Either go for the Ti series, or if your budget permits it go for the 9600XT.

[tarey_g]

thx 4 the support alphaomega.......................but some ppl never learn or never want to learn 8) .

[AlphaOmega]

No sweat, t_g! You are right, if people want to ignore the obvious, then it's their loss. :roll:

[blade_runner]

Originally Posted by AlphaOmega

blade_r man, you really need to read! architecture ain't worth jack, if the card is not powerful enough to implement the new features. I can bet anything you want that the ti series will outperform all 5700 pure (forget le). Go over to www.3dnews.ru and try to find a comparison of 80 gpus. They have it in an excel file. Highly informative. E.g.

Dude when i meant fishy score wht i meant was that the dude had posted a score of sumthng like 650, so i found that quite wierd. Synthetic benchmarks dont mean the world to me. They apparently arent the best way to get bechies done with all the optimisations and cheats going arnd. Since u too have a Ti which both u and tarey are trying to get rid off its obvious that u'd both try to push it.

Most of all the fx5200 available here are handicapped ones with either 64bit memory or pathetic cooling, so the scores u'd get with the ones available here will be pretty low, but not as low as 690. While i fully agree that the Ti is a good card definitely better than a fx5200 when it comes to Dx8 games........but then again its Dx8.

[tarey_g]

Originally Posted by blade_runner

Dude when i meant fishy score wht i meant was that the dude had posted a score of sumthng like 650, so i found that quite wierd. Synthetic benchmarks dont mean the world to me. They apparently arent the best way to get bechies done with all the optimisations and cheats going arnd. Since u too have a Ti which both u and tarey are trying to get rid off its obvious that u'd both try to push it.

Most of all the fx5200 available here are handicapped ones with either 64bit memory or pathetic cooling, so the scores u'd get with the ones available here will be pretty low, but not as low as 690. While i fully agree that the Ti is a good card definitely better than a fx5200 when it comes to Dx8 games........but then again its Dx8.

Mr. Runner firstly i must tell u that im not trying to get rid of "my precious" ti4200 im selling it becoz i hav saved enough money to buy a new 5950ultra or a 9800 XT (9800 XT most probably). secondly im not one of those ppl who are crazy abt the Dx9 cards and do not have a deep pocket to buy at least a 5700 or a 5800 . when i bought my ti i had Dx9 cards in my mind but my budget was low then, so i opted for a ti4200 which was far more powerful then 5200 and cheaper than 5700(which also lacks behind in performance when compared to ti) .I had played halo which is a Dx9 game on both the cards and i had to turn off the "eye candy" options and lower the resolution to play it decently on a FX5200(one of my friend has it) , on the other hand i played halo on my Ti4200 on full settings with all the eye candy turned on with the resolution 1024x768.It's really hard to figure out the visual difference in DX8 and Dx9 cards when u play games like halo but the Major issue is of performance the card is providing u.


I repeat if u really want to experience the perks of Dx9 technology then 5200 is not a good choice, u will need at least a 5700(still weaker than my ti4200 128MB 275/550) and 5700 is more expensive than a ti4200. and if u want proof just hav a look at the link that alphaomega suggested and see the excel file abt comparison of 80 gpu's.

and i wud like to highlight this again which is from that excel file on www.3dnews.ru

Splinter Cell (1024)
--------------------
ti4200 = 27.9
5700 = 18.7
5200 = 6.8

UT 2003
---------------------
ti4200 = 82.2
5700 = 72.2
5200 = 15.5



that xls file is highly informative Mr. Runner and I bet you will like it...
and 690 was the score i really got frm 5200

[AlphaOmega]

I am also not trying to 'get rid' of my ti. I am looking to buy a new card like a 6800. The reason I bought the Ti 6 months ago was that I wanted to wait for the newer cards, as well that Ti can beat the stuffing out of most newer cards like the FX5700. Heck, I even advised pradeep to go in for the 9600XT is could afford it. You are right, synthetic BMs are good, but real games are better. That's why I posted the scores on SC and UT. Like t_g said, Halo and Unreal 2 (which has dx9 hooks) ran better on my Ti than my friends 5200.

I have seen a lot of games running on a lot of cards, as my friends have a large variety of cards, from MX440 to 9800. Therefore, I can say that for a gamer on a limited budget, Ti is still the way to go.

[tarey_g]

so any one intrested i have only one ti4200 and one 4400 left
2.5 yrs of warranty remaining on both from RPtech and zeta resp.

4200 128 mb for rs 7200
4400 128 mb for rs 7900

one ti4200 and a 5200 sold . thx to rajdeep and sanjay jain