Search for a serious NAV alternative

[mariner_5147]

I have been using Norton Anti Virus (various versions) for a long time. But it has been a compromise between decent detection performance, popularity, regular updates on one hand and system resources hogging on the other. Recently I installed NAV 2005 on a friend's computer and such was the slow down of system performance that now I am seriously thinking of an alternative. I have tried PC-Cillin, McAfee, AVG, Panda. But I stuck to NAV anyway.

I saw the AV program testing results on www.virus.gr. This site claims to have one of the largest virus collection. There Kaspersky Personal Pro version 4.5.0.58 has the highest rating (99.09% detection) in the most recent tests followed by F-Secure 2004 version 4.71.5 (98.77% detection). McAfee and NAV are ranked 7th and 8th respectively. For detains go to
http://www.virus.gr/english/fullxml/...p?id=67&mnu=67.

However I have my doubts as Kasperesky and F-secure are really not talked about product.

I would like to know:
1. If the above mentioned site is reliable?
2. Is there any other reliable recent test results available online?
3. Was there any testing reviews in DIGIT recently and if yes which issue?
4. What are your thoughts about Kaspersky and F-secure?
5. Which AV program u think is the best?

Thanks

P.S: If there is any discussion thread like this here, please point me there. I searched but too many results came up (258).

[krazydude]

F-Secure
AVG Antivirus

[gamefreak14]

I'm using NAV 2005 from the past 4 days. It runs exactly the same as before, though start up time has increased by about a whole minute. Anyway, what I did like most about it is that it has 'internet worm protection' which is pretty nifty. Of course it doesn't come upto Zonealarm's standards, but i've found Zonealarm to be better suited for paranoids. So i find NAV presently as the best of both worlds.

[GNUrag]

Hello,

how about thinking of a serious alternative to your Operating System ??? GNOME - KDE will most surely not let you down....

[mariner_5147]

GNUrag I know ur a big fan of Linux and i do use mandrake, but rite now i am not in position for changing my computing habbits. So I am stuck with virii, so if u have any good suggession regarding this topic i will very much appreciate it.

thnx

[tuxfan]

AVG is a nice alternative. Go to http://www.grisoft.com or search thru some Digit DVD/CD for AVG. I think it is there in one of the recent ones. Install it and update the virus definitions thru net.

[cooljeba]

AVG rlz

..:: peace ::..
Jeba

[mariner]

well u see the other threads then the points go to kaspersky. the the one which got the most revs from ppl.

[techno_funky]

yaa me too gave up norton cause it mnade my computer an extinct dino
so currently using Panda Platinum

[Jatin_T]

Hey -I too removed norton coz it just made my PC too slow and the liveupdate on dialup was horrifying-1 hr...

I have McAfee now and i dont know if its really too good-or it doesnt detect viruses at all;coz after i installed it and the McAfee personal Firewall-i just remember having 2 viruses-which it detected of course

But if u have dial-up it rocks-coz the updates are soooo fast!!

[Wizard]

hey...mariner and mariner 5147...any difference ??

twins or somethin

[mAYHEM]

Kaspersky and Panda Titanium.NAV 2005 deleted my cr**ks which have norton in their name. In summary it showed hacking tools..deleted.

All I can say about kesperesky that it made me reinstall Winodws,

I also tried NAV2005, it's as fast as NAV2004, I disabled the internet worm protection cos Sygate is better then that, & it eats a lot of RAM (5 mb), I usually disable my NAV when I m not using net, cos then virus can't come to my system

I have removed NAV 2005 & Back to NAV2004, reason, internet worm protection is the only thing notable new, the interface & UI doesn't means a lot, as I never ssee it on my system. & I disable IWM, without that it's simpley NAV2004 + A new look, so if U have NAV2004 with a firewall software, then going for NAV2005 is useless

[GNUrag]

Guess, no one is going to listen what a penguin is saying.... Life is not so difficult friends.... When i was last infected by a virus attack, i completely stopped using crappy virus infested software....

ps: I was infected by VBS.Redlof.A ... i'd created a removal tool myself... anyone wants it ? .... You'll get source code of it also....

[Prashray]

I too removed NAV.

[VD17]

NIS [Norton Internet Security] 2003 here....
never had any problems and doesnt slow my system THAT much...

Although NAV 2004 Pro is eating 18 MB at my system out of 512 MB, but it's not slowing my system, I could'nt find any performance increse in 3D rendering or Gaming with NAV disabled & removed from the task list

[demoninside]

Hey prob isn't about system performence when it's 512mb RAM
but the user on 128 or 256 +(worst of all) on dial up then i don't think NAV is good idea
and on opensystem means linux
it's good for working onbut couldn't cofigure my internal modem for even once so for net got to use Windows

[it_waaznt_me]

My vote goes to Kaspersky too ...

[snehal_prabhu]

i believe there is no need for any present day antivirus softwares.as they are useless and do the work by detecting the virus creating panic in your brains ,eating ur system resources but fail to repair it

whats the useeee!!!!!1

[[deXter]]

Yep. Stopped using A/V software myself too. Im just too much into virtualization these days that it seems pointless to use an a/v software.. (although I do use a firewall)

Its sad that I finally failed the need to use NAV and McAfee.. Duing the DOS days - couldnt have survived without them.

There was this brand new a/v program called as eXtendia AVK pro. This a/v used 2 scanning engies- Kaspersky and RAV. The results apparently were so good that it beat each and every a/v in ALL the tests (thanks to the dual scanning engine). According to one of the tests, the program used extremly (I mean extremly ) less resources (ram/cpu). It detected ALL the virii (compressed/multi levels) in just a few seconds, no false detects, and daily updated defs, plus it was so fast and so good that it was literally unbelieveable. I was convinced too, so I decided to give it a try. Catch was that the trial version couldnt be updated, so I couldnt check for its effectiveness. And when I went onto the site, it looked as if the manufacturers were only interested in getting ppl to BUY the program (no proper links to try the program). Plus they were offering the program at an extremly less price. But if their program was that good, why didnt they mention some of those amazing results on their own site (those tests were carried out by some third party groups/teams). Not only that, the website also mentions nowhere that its buying site has been securely signed (no verisign)- How can I trust my credit card info to some highly suspicious company? I knew it was too good to be true, so I moved on...

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I would recommend Kaspersky, but if you want a commercial alternative, then go for Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition 9. Its basically meant for networks/networked comps, but its damn good for home PCs, as its fast, and uses very less resources.

[gamefreak14]

Hey...thanks for the info [deXter]

[medpal]

kaspersky for me

before i used avg

use adaware se and spybot s & d with the av you use.

[Wildstyle]

GNUrag: You LinuGeeks rule and we'll all be getting into the realm eventually but most have to stick to Windows for the sake of habit. For now. Well done in creating the Redlof removal tool, a rather simple concept actually and it was time someone executed it.

I use NAV 2004 (used 2003 earlier but upgraded hoping to get a better handling of worms). The case is there aren't too many virus occurrences, but I am paranoid and would rather forsake some performance in exchange for peace of mind. Before NAV, I was a dedicated and loyal user of F-secure, which I think is one of the best antiviruses out there. There was a time when F-secure (then known as F-prot) ruled the DOS world and helped clean my system of the classic 'wild' viruses in India like Die Hard 2. They also have the most elaborate (and even interesting) encyclopaedia on all viruses ever written.

AVG is supposed to be very good, but I dropped it when one day I discovered that my system had MS Blaster but even with the latest updates, it had failed to notice any suspicious activities. Right now it's NAV for me.

[ShekharPalash]

Agree with Dexter.... We'r running Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition 9 in our hostel network... and it works fine...

[mAYHEM]

There is a download link for eXtendia AVK Pro(30 Day Trial).
www.extendia.com

Well, if U think on Dial Up NAV 2k4 or 2k5 is bad then don't use Mcafee, it's even worse on dial up

[digen]

Kaspersky here.Its not resource hogger & super fast.

[krazydude]

Kaspersky --> Is it a Russian product, nothing against it but just curious

[mariner_5147]

McAfee is considered bad because of its update problems. Otherwise its virus scanner is a good one , at least better than NAV.

After going through this thread and seaching for info in other forums and test sites, I have decided to try Kaspersky Personal Pro, then Symntec Corp. and then Mcafee virusscan Enterprise and may be F-Secure too (just need to get my hand on a full working version). Hope i will find the alternative I was looking for.

BTW @ Indyan: I am not very sure about MKS_Vir and Extendia. Very few sites actually tested them and on others, they are ranked very low( e.g virus.gr).

Anyway thanks to all the people for your valued inputs.