Sata or Pata ...... What is this.

[godsownman]

What is the difference between SATA and PATA . What are the 2 meanings.

If I were to buy a HDD which one would be better.

What is the approx price of both if they are available in Seagate fo 40 GB and 80 GB .

Thanks




P.S. I'm sorry if I posted this in the wrong place.

[Charley]

1) SATA is the future standard. PATA is on it's slow death. It's like saying, "I'm going to buy a new car."

2)

a. Seagate - Cheaply made, but getting much better. Seagate now has the fewest failures of all the drives made now.

b. Quantum - Has had a bad batch of drives with a defective chip incl. the Fireball™ CX,LA,LB,LC and KX series.

c.Samsung - (Inexpensive, you get what you pay for!) Cheaply made, consumer use only but do a religious backup!

3) Chaech with any dealers there [ price]

[Keith Sebastian]

The following article should clear all your doubts -

http://is.pennnet.com/Articles/Artic...ION_NUM=2&p=23

If you're building a new system, I'd recommend SATA as the smaller cables look neater and help air circulation. Most new motherboards have onboard SATA raid controllers, which is good if you'd like to experiment with raid arrays.

There's a price difference of around INR 400 (2800 vs 3200) between 80gb PATA and SATA, SATA being the more expensive option.

Keith

[godzi_85]

hmm the data transfer rates are 1.5 gbps for a sata and if i`m not wrong 133 mbps for a pata....
and ya smaller neater cables for sata as compared to pata cables..

[pradeep_chauhan]

now sata has a transfer throughput of 3.0GBps

[premrajeev]

go for SATA (serial ata) only if ur MOBO supports it . It's better and faster. Also, dont forget to buy the power adaptor cables for SATA drives. If u have no mobo support, stick with PATA ( parallel ata) always look for 7200 rpm drives as they are faster than 5400 rpm counterparts. The price difference of SATA and PATA is Rs. 150 in Mumbai.( SATA costs more)

[gary4gar]

i wanted 2 buy a athlon 3000+
my vendor says it is not avilable
can anyone tell me how can i get it
i am living in jaipur.

my vendor says i can buy compac sll1510il
which features and its price is 23000rs
which one is better.

Microprocessor
· AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3000+ @ 2.0 GHz

· With HyperTransport Technology

· Up to 1600 MHz Front-side Bus Speed



Cache Memory
· 512 KB Integrated L2 Advanced Transfer Cache



Chipset
· SiS 760 Chipset



Memory
· 128 MB PC3200 DDR (400 MHz)

· 2 DIMMS (Expandable to 2 GB with discard)



Hard Drive
· 40 GB Ultra DMA ATA Hard drive at 5400 RPM



Floppy Disk Drive
· 3.5” 1.44 MB Floppy disk drive



Optical Drive
· 48x / 32x / 48x CD-RW drive



Video Graphics
· Integrated Mirage2™ Graphics Engine

· User configurable up to 32MB



Network Card
· Integrated 10/100 BaseT (Broadband ready)



On-board Audio
· Integrated AC’97 CODEC - RealTek ALC658

Total Memory Slots
· Two 184-pin DIMM (one available)



Expansion Slots
· Three PCI Slots (three available)

· One 8X AGP Slot (available)



Expansion Bays
· Two 5.25” External bays (one available)

· Two 3.5” External bays (one available)

· Two 3.5” Internal bays (one available)



I/O Connectors
· Rear Access Ports
Four Hi-Speed USB 2.0

One IEEE 1394

One Serial

One Parallel

One RJ-11

One RJ-45

Two PS/2 ports

Line-In, Line-Out

One Microphone

One external VGA Port



Included Peripherals
· Compaq PS/2 Keyboard

· PS/2 Ball Mouse



Software
Operating System
· FreeDOS

[Dipen01]

Originally Posted by gary4gar

i wanted 2 buy a athlon 3000+
my vendor says it is not avilable
can anyone tell me how can i get it
i am living in jaipur.

my vendor says i can buy compac sll1510il
which features and its price is 23000rs
which one is better.

Microprocessor
· AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3000+ @ 2.0 GHz

· With HyperTransport Technology

Memory
· 128 MB PC3200 DDR (400 MHz)

Hard Drive
· 40 GB Ultra DMA ATA Hard drive at 5400 RPM

Video Graphics
· Integrated Mirage2™ Graphics Engine

hey there...

never heard of Hypertransport memory(Heard Hyper Threading in case of intel)..maybe others can clear this doubt..

yes and i personally think.. ur RAM,HDD is less and yeah Graphics Card(if u like gaming)

Cheers..
Dipen[/quote]

[pradeep_chauhan]

* HyperTransport technology is a high-speed, low latency, point-to-point link designed to increase the communication speed between integrated circuits in computers, servers, embedded systems, and networking and telecommunications equipment up to 48 times faster than some existing technologies.
* HyperTransport technology helps reduce the number of buses in a system, which can reduce system bottlenecks and enable today's faster microprocessors to use system memory more efficiently in high-end multiprocessor systems.
* HyperTransport technology is designed to:
o Provide significantly more bandwidth than current technologies
o Use low-latency responses and low pin counts
o Maintain compatibility with legacy PC buses while being extensible to new SNA (Systems Network Architecture) buses.
o Appear transparent to operating systems and offer little impact on peripheral drivers.
* HyperTransport technology was invented at AMD with contributions from industry partners and is managed and licensed by the HyperTransport Technology Consortium, a Texas non-profit corporation. The full specification and more information about HyperTransport technology can be found at HyperTransport.org.

HyperTransport is a licensed trademark of the HyperTransport Technology Consortium.
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...2_2353,00.html

[grinning_devil]

as a thumb rule >> compaq pc s***
go for assembled ones ONLY ...
even if for that u have to search a lil more ..

i dont understand why the hell HP are promoting compaq in india..even telephonic tech support for compaq PC's have dropped in US..

[premrajeev]

It's an OK config for an average user. ADD more RAM, a DVDRW, A decent Graphic card, and u are at it. Also consider upgrading ur HDD.

Not a too bad config, for the buck u r spending.

[Charley]

Originally Posted by grinning_devil

go for assembled ones ONLY ...

I like using assembled ones as one can customise his needs and requirements

and also not to forget $$$$$

[King_Niral]

i prefer assembled myself !!

Cheers !!!

[callnishanth]

Can anyone tell me what exactly is the meaning of 1.5 GBPS in case of SATA. I have a 200Gb Segate SATA HDD and Im a bit confused about it.

[amit_arya]

Originally Posted by callnishanth

Can anyone tell me what exactly is the meaning of 1.5 GBPS in case of SATA. I have a 200Gb Segate SATA HDD and Im a bit confused about it.

1.5GBPS is transfer rate and 200Gb is the capacity... say you have a 5000lts water tank but the pipe to fill/empty it is 1lts/sec.

GBPS stands for GB per second

[grinning_devil]

Originally Posted by amit_arya

say you have a 5000lts water tank but the pipe to fill/empty it is 1lts/sec.

thats an intresting example provided ... !!!

[callnishanth]

What i meant was that i can never see a transfer speed of 1.5 GBPS...
Anc could you exactly tell me how do you check if the speed is 1.5 GBps.

[mohit]

@amit_arya

GBPS stands for GB per second

wrong there it stands for Gbits per second.

here is a comparison between sata and pata , hope it helps.

SATA has transfer rate of 1.5Gbits/sec or 150 Mbytes/sec whereas PATA has a trans rate of upto 133 mbytes/sec. SATA 2 has trans rates upto 300 Mbytes/sec.

In SATA there is no master/slave , it is point to point whereas PATA has tiny jumpers.

SATA has upto 39 inch (1 meter) cables and PATA has 18 inch cables.

SATA has thin cables (1/4inch) PATA has 2 inch wide ribbon cables.

SATA has blade and beam connectors (snap in) and PATA has 40 pin and socket.

SATA has 0.5 inch wide data connector and PATA has 2 inch wide data connectors.

SATA has intelligent data handling ( by Native Command Queuing) and PATA has limited (legacy command queuing)

[amit_arya]

Originally Posted by mohit

@amit_arya

wrong there it stands for Gbits per second.

then it would be Gbps (small b) if you write GBPS as did the person whom i had replied then it ought to be Giga Byte

@callnishanth
dear when we say ATA100/133 then those are ideal speeds... you never reach them but they give you the idea or speeds... say reaching 50% of that too is a good going (considering random seek and write operations)

i think (no sure) you can check your drive speeds and many many other system parameters with sisoft sandra and compare them with their precombined database of other combinations

[callnishanth]

Whew !! Thanks a lot.. That sure did clear lot of my doubts.
And just for the record i have a 200GB SATA HDD and guess what.... Im goin for another one.... 400 GB in all.... Now thats a lot of space...