29-05-2005, 01:02 PM
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ARE RAM OPTIMIZERS OF ANY REALLY HELP ! ?
They are not, says studies ! it says they have no effect, and at worst, they seriously degrade performance. Although gaining more available memory might seem beneficial, it isn't. As RAM Optimizers force the available-memory counter up, they force other processes' data and code out of memory !!! you may have noticed, that after using a ram optimizer, it does take time for aplication to re- or cold- start ! for just-closed applications, they may however help in unloading their dll's.
pls visit http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/...095/41095.html &
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/SupportCD/XPMyths.html
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29-05-2005, 01:52 PM
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In The Zone
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No they don't help much you can't expect miracles from such softwares
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29-05-2005, 02:28 PM
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The Hardware Labs
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they are useless and harmful according to me.. they sometimes freeze ur machine and cause errors in running processes ... better to avoid them and go for physical ram upgrade. and if ur system has less amount of ram then just disable all the frills and effects... that will surely be helpful.
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29-05-2005, 07:19 PM
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Gracias Senor
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ya they r useless.. when v free up RAM itselfthe sys hangs for soetimes and after tht the sys goes unstable.. unless and until u restart it will never cum 2 stable state.. this is of my exp..
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29-05-2005, 07:44 PM
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Sys mech's RAM defragmenter is very useful. try it
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29-05-2005, 11:03 PM
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They r just shits! They r of no use....
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30-05-2005, 03:46 AM
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In The Zone
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RAM Boosters/ Optimizers they suck alot of RAM.
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30-05-2005, 03:52 PM
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Already discussed and that time too these optimizers where found to be crap.One interesting post was that if they were so helpful why didnt microsoft include ram optimizers in the kernel
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30-05-2005, 05:16 PM
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Alpha Geek
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Ram optimisers are a " Get rich quick scheme of some software programmers" They optimise memory and minimise all other operations.
Better stay away
Optimise Ram by buying good hardware ram!
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31-05-2005, 12:33 AM
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In The Zone
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Better to have a lot of RAM (1GB+) rather than installing these softwares.
Beside WinXP manages memory effectively!
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01-06-2005, 03:43 PM
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Alpha Geek
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they only eats up more resources 
i never recommend them
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01-06-2005, 07:40 PM
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Wise Old Owl
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used to be of my help when i used to have 128MB of SDRAM.... not of use as of now since upgraded my machine to 1gig of RAM ...
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02-06-2005, 01:07 AM
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Wise Old Owl
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mem. optimizations by winxp are good enough ... ever noticed the free ram before/after playing games like d3 , MoH : PA ??? the os shuts down unneccesary services itself .... good enough for me ... i trust a very few third party softwares ....
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02-06-2005, 03:16 AM
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Agree with deathvirus_me. Windows XP's memory management is good enough. RAM optimizers increase the amount of free phyisical memory but they cause heavy paging operations, as programs are moved to page file to free memory. N if you got a slow or problemetic hdd, you are in for a real bad time.
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02-06-2005, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sms_solver
Better to have a lot of RAM (1GB+) rather than installing these softwares.
Beside WinXP manages memory effectively!
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exactly they worsten ur pc
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02-06-2005, 05:58 PM
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If you have more than 256 megs of RAM you'll find that these optimisers are useless. They where designed for older generation machines (with low and slow memory susbsytems) running older OS's (< win 98) that could not manage system memory very well.
Keith
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20-09-2006, 09:28 AM
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Re: ARE RAM OPTIMIZERS OF ANY REALLY HELP ! ?
Even I thinks it is useless. WXP has good memory management system..........
But what is the difference between memry optimizers and memory defraggers ? Like system mecanic has both ???????????????????????
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23-09-2006, 08:51 PM
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Re: ARE RAM OPTIMIZERS OF ANY REALLY HELP ! ?
USELESS
one word.
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23-09-2006, 09:19 PM
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Re: ARE RAM OPTIMIZERS OF ANY REALLY HELP ! ?
F***IN ****
another word
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23-09-2006, 09:28 PM
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Re: ARE RAM OPTIMIZERS OF ANY REALLY HELP ! ?
Ram optimizer softwares are useless and built only for making money.
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23-09-2006, 11:14 PM
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Re: ARE RAM OPTIMIZERS OF ANY REALLY HELP ! ?
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25-09-2006, 12:05 AM
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Re: ARE RAM OPTIMIZERS OF ANY REALLY HELP ! ?
they hang up all the processes until the value set is reached.i get pissed off when something like this happens when i'm playing f1 especially when i'm on myflying lap.
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16-10-2006, 02:49 PM
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of course they are :P
yus the software available in market / on internet are usually useless
but not all memory optimizers are bad
SOME ACTUALLY DO HELP N OPTIMIZE MEM
i have one... try it... you will immediately love it..
its really tiny (only 15KB).. shows the free mb of RAM
green LED display in systemtray... turns yellow or Red depending on the percentage of sytem RAM that is free
takes little or no memory or CPU cycles
its user-friendly.. its not automatic.. you choose when you want to optimize
it frees memory by 25-50% depending on the processes
you can see the effects usually immediately after executing it n choosing AutoFree option
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16-10-2006, 03:59 PM
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Re: ARE RAM OPTIMIZERS OF ANY REALLY HELP ! ?
I totally disagree with you Bros.
iam runnin Windows XPSP2, using cachemanXP and it serves its purpose takes only .8 to 1.4MB of my ram
and manage to save lot more than.
Plus there are other uses of its also
Like killing a process which sometimes even task manager cant do.
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16-10-2006, 04:01 PM
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Re: ARE RAM OPTIMIZERS OF ANY REALLY HELP ! ?
Ram optimizers are good if u have less than 256MB memory for XP and 512MB for Vista...if u have above 1GB then no need of using optimizers!
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16-10-2006, 04:27 PM
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Re: ARE RAM OPTIMIZERS OF ANY REALLY HELP ! ?
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if u have above 1GB then no need of using optimizers! 
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Friend My Other friend's PC config goes like this
P4 2.8Ghz (800Mhz Fsb 1Mb Cache) 1GB DDR (400) i865 running Windows XPSP2
without using Cacheman available ram jus ater booting and after 15 minutes is like this 300MB and 395 MB Resp (checked using smalltool).
With Cacheman its 875MB and 899 MB Resp.
See the diff
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16-10-2006, 10:38 PM
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Re: ARE RAM OPTIMIZERS OF ANY REALLY HELP ! ?
these softwares are useless...they screw up the system..
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18-10-2006, 04:24 PM
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Re: ARE RAM OPTIMIZERS OF ANY REALLY HELP ! ?
I dunno about other RAM applications, but FreeRam XP serves it purpose well... It doesn't suck out RAM space to free it. Ensures cr@p to stay out of the RAM whenever a stress is on it and enhances ur computer experience. Goin with SamRules, these sorta utilities are for those who have low RAM, around and under 256Mb, they feel the difference. Anything higher and RAM issues seldom trouble you.
FreeRAM XP just gets rid of applications which are not used for the moment whenever necessary or when forced. This way, more RAM space is available for other utilities. Exp useful when running intense applications like games.
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03-11-2006, 12:28 PM
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Re: ARE RAM OPTIMIZERS OF ANY REALLY HELP ! ?
Yup they do help when u have low configs.
We had once installed WebLogic server on one machine and it used to take quite some memory.so to keep it fast and running this tool helped us a lot.
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03-11-2006, 12:57 PM
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Alpha Geek
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Re: ARE RAM OPTIMIZERS OF ANY REALLY HELP ! ?
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Ram optimizers are good if u have less than 256MB memory for XP and 512MB for Vista...if u have above 1GB then no need of using optimizers! 
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I have 256mb RAM still find hard to run xp smoothly, how can you manage?
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