20-05-2005, 02:33 AM
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AGP or PCI-e
is pci-e is better than agp and does intel dgavd2 supports pci-e
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20-05-2005, 07:20 AM
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Alpha Geek
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pci e is certainly better than agp but not for now.Present gen cards just cant utilise the bandwidth.So for now agp is best nd cheaper.But 4 high end cards such as 6600 gt pcie costs less.So its upon u.If ur budget is low go for agp nd if u can spend some extra then go for pcie.It will also be future proof
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20-05-2005, 12:07 PM
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Pci express is the technology for the future. At the moment though no real difference has been found by the top reviewers of graphics cards in any jump of performance.
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They all admit that with time this will change and the true capabilites of the Pci-express port will come forth.
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If you want something that is future proof go in for Pcie and if you want save money and have same preformance go for AGP!
Another thing to keep in mind is that all the new intel mobo's do not have a agp slot. I can't say the same about companies like Msi, gigabyte etc..
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20-05-2005, 09:56 PM
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pcie will soon replace agp's... in fact the new boards have ONLY pcie supports.
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20-05-2005, 09:59 PM
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pcie will soon replace agp's... in fact the new boards have ONLY pcie supports. like 915/925 g series from intel.
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20-05-2005, 11:34 PM
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i have asked this question because i am plnning to buy a high end graphics card (cost is not the matter, may be i'll give away Rs. 40000 for a good card)
please suggest me should i go for pcie or agp
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21-05-2005, 12:50 AM
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Ok it seems to me that you are a gamer, since you are already selling out that amount of money, so u must go in for PCI -express based card. Since your love for gaming is not going to stop just by playing DOOM , it will continue.... and the future is bright and so PCI - E will be always with you in the coming future of games.... this is just the beginning.... There are games that are under development which is being targeted at this PCI -E cards only, which means you can play this future games only with a PCI-E based card. So go get one for yourself !
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21-05-2005, 02:26 AM
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thanks
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21-05-2005, 02:31 AM
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Go 4 the pci card snake- u ll be able to play the future games
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21-05-2005, 03:13 AM
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PCIe the future of Graphics technology. You won't find much difference between AGP and PCIe at the moment. But in another year or so, PCIe cards will dominate the gaming arena.
If you have a PCIe port and if you are going for a high end card -- Like the nVidia 6800GT 256MB card --> you can go for the PCIe version. Its cheaper. If you are going for lower models AGP version is cheaper.
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21-05-2005, 05:18 AM
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then go for pci e. Also for a high end gfx card buy ATI coz Nvidia doesnt make pure pcie cards.They just use a chip that converts agp signals to pci.SAo there must be some latency.ATI X800PE nd like will fit ur bill i think.Also get urself Athlon 64 FX to get max performance out of it.Although i dont know if they r available in India or not
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21-05-2005, 11:40 AM
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You are wrong my dear friend. All cards are native Pci but they are being converted to agp with these chips:-
Rialto -- Ati
HSI (high speed interconnect) -- Nvidia
An article to prove my point is given under:-
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/..._agp/page2.asp
That is one of the reasons the 6600 pci express was available much before the agp version came out. They built a sort of a bridge for these cards to make them backward compatible with northwood chipsets.
And yes there are Latencies involved but they are the other way around i.e from pcie to agp and not vice versa as you seem to think.
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21-05-2005, 06:15 PM
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I say go for pci-e as future as well as present games will run on pci-e.
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21-05-2005, 11:37 PM
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is pci-e is better than agp and does intel dgavd2 supports pci-e
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man which is that board u r talking about ? i havent heard about this model as yet ... btw if you are willing to shell out around 40k what i suggest is go for the Intel SLI boards from Asus and take 2 pci-e 6600gt's from gainward/leadtek ... all this will come easily in 40 k and u will have one hell of a gaming machine.
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22-05-2005, 05:07 AM
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my frnd has intel 915 board....i heard it only hav pci-e slot not agp...is it true?????....also which card shd h go 4.....basic requirement.....playing games lik nfs undergrd and all......budget 6-7.5k..........
also buying a card of 2-4k range is not worth buying??????on minimum settings will such cards provide decent graphics and all???
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22-05-2005, 05:09 PM
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PCI-E will B of USE 2-3YEARS FROM NOW NOT BEFORE THAT !!!
SO GO FOR A GOOD AGP CARD NOW AT THE SAME PRICE OF A LOW END PCI-e card !!!!!
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23-05-2005, 01:57 AM
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iT SEEMS tHATS pEOPLE cANT ECIDE fOR wHICH oNE tO gO fOR
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23-05-2005, 04:41 AM
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its coz of hndreds of different companies
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23-05-2005, 06:34 AM
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thats coz agp is surely dying but as for now it provides best price to performance ratio.Also PCI-E cards r crazily priced.AGP Provides complete compatibility.
PCI will replace agp but not before at least 2007.
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23-05-2005, 07:52 AM
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yaap! for 2 to 3 years .. from now on .. AGP's R not leaving there respected position for sure! 8)
So spending money on AGP is worth for now atleast .............. & after 2 years . there will be a hell lot of things which U might need to worry! abt so just dunt get toooooooooo far!
& if U can understand .. take my advice :
Always stay ONE step behind the TECHNOLOGY
reasons i dunt wanna clear out here! U can urself figure it out tht well! So get an AGP depending on ur budget!!
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23-05-2005, 07:55 AM
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am plannin to replace my mobo and stuff
i definitely want an AMD
for a budget of 5-7k for a graphics card .. can i go for a PCI -ex .. and which mobo do i need ..
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23-05-2005, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by magnet
my frnd has intel 915 board....i heard it only hav pci-e slot not agp...is it true?????....also which card shd h go 4.....basic requirement.....playing games lik nfs undergrd and all......budget 6-7.5k..........
also buying a card of 2-4k range is not worth buying??????on minimum settings will such cards provide decent graphics and all???
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Yes the 91xx series of boards and above have one Pc-express slot only NO agp. Pci express cards will be around the same price as the agp cards so do not worry!!
Also, Let me confirm to you all that Technology always moves at a lightening speed or not at all. Pci-express will Definately be the trend by this year end. Already all mobo companies have shifted to pci and will eventually phase out the agp ............... I still say be FUTURE PROOF and buy a Pci-e unless you change your computer every year.
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23-05-2005, 01:55 PM
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Re: AGP or PCI-e
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Originally Posted by - Snake -
is pci-e is better than agp and does intel dgavd2 supports pci-e
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whats the diff betn PCX and AGP
what is PCX
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23-05-2005, 03:48 PM
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One of the most significant changes to come to PC systems in a decade, PCI Express is a new interconnect technology designed to provide universal connectivity for use as a chip-to-chip and chip to adapter card interconnect. PCI Express architecture provides for extremely high bandwidth at low cost. There are two main reasons to care about PCI-Express:
1) PCI is now an old standard dating back to the early 90's and no longer fits our needs in terms of speed/performance.
2) AGP also is in a similar position as PCI now, and chipset manufacturers are killing AGP motherboard support in favor of the much faster PCI Express interface. This means you are looking at a forced transition in the graphic sector, thus you really don't have a lot of choice in the coming years.
info from www.gen-x-pc.com
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23-05-2005, 11:15 PM
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