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    Guys i want to learn programming say almost all.for working in movie/game editing softwares to hacking.Kindly let me know from where i should start.

    I have very basic knowledge in c++ but is not in touch with it for years.

    Kindly help.

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    Please read similar threads.

    working in movie/game editing softwares to hacking
    Now that's a long way.

    I have very basic knowledge in c++ but is not in touch with it for years.
    Read some non-India authored books. Search around for similar threads.

    PS: Hacking what exactly? High level languages don't help you in hacking/cracking.
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    Hey let me make you clear. Although its true that almost everything(or may be everything) in this Computer Era requires programming but you cannot learn everything, I mean its difficult to be the expert of everything from Game Programming to Web Designing or from Application Programming to Kernel Programming. There are different areas and each area has a set of libraries and languages used. First, choose your area, where you want to go.
    Also, Hacking too contains wide topics and is not just up to programming.
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    Hacking desnt means you must-have knowledge of Programming and depends on the Kind of Hacking one is attempting to accomplish.

    BTW if Hacking to you means blowing online servers,websites,ids and accounts then look forward too SQL,HTML and Python.

    Too much can be said about Hacking but that would be offtopic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sujeet View Post
    Hacking desnt means you must-have knowledge of
    BTW if Hacking to you means blowing online servers,websites,ids and accounts then look forward too SQL,HTML and Python.
    Even those won't help you hack. SQL Injections/XSS/Phishing, etc. are all aimed at exploiting the vulnerabilities - whether it's of the server, the code and/or the user.

    If anyone wishes to hack learn assembly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nbaztec View Post
    Even those won't help you hack. SQL Injections/XSS/Phishing, etc. are all aimed at exploiting the vulnerabilities - whether it's of the server, the code and/or the user.

    If anyone wishes to hack learn assembly.
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    Default Re: i want to learn programming.

    ok i want to start with movies.How is Maya for Film Maya - 3D Animation Software - Autodesk.

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    How is Maya for Film
    Maya - 3D Animation Software
    Does that say anything?

    Look into Adobe Premier, Pinnacle Studio, After Effects or even the humble Movie Maker will do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dingdong View Post
    ok i want to start with movies.How is Maya for Film Maya - 3D Animation Software - Autodesk.

    Lol.
    Where are you heading.!
    Jumped directly from Programming Bandwagon to 3d Designing bandwagon.!!

    Anyways Maya too has its own programming language(its scripting language actually) called MEL.Do you want to learn that or simply jump into modeling and animation.???
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    Quote Originally Posted by nbaztec View Post
    Does that say anything?

    Look into Adobe Premier, Pinnacle Studio, After Effects or even the humble Movie Maker will do.

    Bhai
    please refer the link i have given maya for film is copied from there only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sujeet View Post
    Lol.
    Where are you heading.!
    Jumped directly from Programming Bandwagon to 3d Designing bandwagon.!!

    Anyways Maya too has its own programming language(its scripting language actually) called MEL.Do you want to learn that or simply jump into modeling and animation.???
    Lol this time also you guessed right! yes first i want to learn modeling then animation.which can be used for movies.

    After that say hacking small easy websites.Or spying on anothers system by injecting a program.

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    why you are confused....
    Animation for movies, learning this and mastering it will take 1-2 years. depends on you
    Programming, takes 1 day. Mastering it takes 2 years. Algorithms and problem solving you should. not learning every other language.

    and one does not simply become a hacker
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    ^^I am not confuse.i want to learn. thats it.Mastering will come later.first let me learn something.

    ok then suggest some programming books only.will python help.

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    dingdong first of all - You, mate are confused and badly lacking direction.

    You want to go Movie Editing? Go for Adobe Premier, After Effects, Pinnacle Studio
    You want to go 3D Animation and CG Films? Go for Autodesk Maya
    You want to go 3D Modelling? Go for Autodesk AutoCAD
    You want to learn Programming? Start with Python/C++
    You want to learn Game Editing? Go for Flash w/ ActionScript , OpenGL w/ C++, PyGame w/ Python
    You wan to learn Hacking? Learn ASM, Reverse Engineering and look into Debuggers

    As you might guessed it, these are forks in the way. Choose a path.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nbaztec View Post
    dingdong first of all - You, mate are confused and badly lacking direction.

    You want to go Movie Editing? Go for Adobe Premier, After Effects, Pinnacle Studio
    You want to go 3D Animation and CG Films? Go for Autodesk Maya
    You want to go 3D Modelling? Go for Autodesk AutoCAD
    You want to learn Programming? Start with Python/C++
    You want to learn Game Editing? Go for Flash w/ ActionScript , OpenGL w/ C++, PyGame w/ Python
    You wan to learn Hacking? Learn ASM, Reverse Engineering and look into Debuggers

    As you might guessed it, these are forks in the way. Choose a path.
    hmmm maybe you are right.Actually i have interest in all.Therefore have to start with something first.

    Just tell me the usages of python then?I will start with it then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dingdong View Post
    hmmm maybe you are right.Actually i have interest in all.Therefore have to start with something first.

    Just tell me the usages of python then?I will start with it then.
    Python is one of your general purpose programming languages. It's cleaner syntax makes it easier for beginners to learn. You can create simple console programs just by scripting, complex application programs by extending to PyQt, 2D Games by extending to PyGame or even a web framework by extending to Django.

    I'd say start slow. Download IDLE and learn scripting.
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    or you can try with Java.

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    If you want to learn programming take it slow with C++ Thats better But seeing the above posts i think you are confused my friend Take a path master it then move to another, its not that easy, IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME

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    Start with python like myself, Udacity and MIT Open course ware are the best places to learn python. Ebooks will only confuse you.
    Focus on one thing first rest will follow, for game programming c++ and JS will be beneficial search for a software called 'Unity 3D' its an awesome game engine.
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    @ Offtopic: I'm half way through python, and i'm loving it. Will learning HTML 5 help? considering that i want to make web pages and apps?
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    Learning HTML5 will definitely help. You will also need to learn JavaScript to make full use of it.

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    ^^And CSS/CSS3 too to make full use of Web Package.HTML/HTML5+CSS/CSS3+JAVASCRIPT{with JQuery}
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    ENOUGH i am not a noob just a newbie. I opened this thread to learn and get help from other members here.If you cant help and here for an argument you can leave.A healthy discussion is always welcome.

    I dont want my thread closed like this

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    Thanks everyone. Another doubt, is it possible to make android apps using python and NDK? Has anyone tried it? NDK works for C and C++.
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    Cleaned up and slightly edited. Don't revolt against each other. dingdong is right.
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    @OP, if you like programming in C++, you should understand it is a gateway to other languages. You learn basic paradigms and syntax through it. Programming is done in many levels, systems programming, web programming, assembly level programming and such.
    Since you are into hacking I suggest you start with python, once familiar with it, jump to PHP, followed by MySql. Now once you have learned those, try and stick to them and master each one. And in the mean time, never attend "Ethical Hacking" courses or seminars, they are a total waste of time and money. Do stuff by experimenting and learning from it.

    Personally, I do not like the online courses. Use w3schools.com to learn basic PHP and JavaScript. Then use stackoverflow for advanced solutions. There is the php.net manual for php functions, and the official jQuery documentation for jQuery.
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    Cleaned up and slightly edited. Don't revolt against each other. dingdong is right.
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    @OP, if you like programming in C++, you should understand it is a gateway to other languages. You learn basic paradigms and syntax through it. Programming is done in many levels, systems programming, web programming, assembly level programming and such.
    Since you are into hacking I suggest you start with python, once familiar with it, jump to PHP, followed by MySql. Now once you have learned those, try and stick to them and master each one. And in the mean time, never attend "Ethical Hacking" courses or seminars, they are a total waste of time and money. Do stuff by experimenting and learning from it.

    Personally, I do not like the online courses. Use w3schools.com to learn basic PHP and JavaScript. Then use stackoverflow for advanced solutions. There is the php.net manual for php functions, and the official jQuery documentation for jQuery.
    understood.which means i have to go through c++ again.

    To be honest its not that i hate OOP but sometimes i find it boring.Btw how to make those GUI s/w installation boxes i mean those boxes which appear when you execute a .exe file to install something.Is it visual basic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dingdong View Post
    To be honest its not that i hate OOP but sometimes i find it boring.Btw how to make those GUI s/w installation boxes i mean those boxes which appear when you execute a .exe file to install something.Is it visual basic?
    It can be made in VB, but VB is for very simple, almost RAD level development. It can allow to quickly make applications, but if you want to more control over what you are making, I'd recommend going in for VC++. It allows very minute control over everything you are building, but it is very vast and can be overwhelming for a noob. But, most professional grade UIs are made in VC++.

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    understood.which means i have to go through c++ again.

    To be honest its not that i hate OOP but sometimes i find it boring.Btw how to make those GUI s/w installation boxes i mean those boxes which appear when you execute a .exe file to install something.Is it visual basic?
    As DeSmOnD said VB is for RAD projects, quick and dirty. Those boxes are known as Forms. They are more often than not, designed rather than coded. Qt and Windows Form Designer come to mind. The functionality is, however, coded in native languages (C++, Python, C#, Java etc.). There is a myriad of Controls ranging from simple TextBoxes to complex DataGrids and TabbedPanels. While they make an application versatile and rich, they incorporate an equal level of complexity. If you plan on learning the native language and it's GUI controls, I'd say you have plenty on your plate already. Best of luck.
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    understood.which means i have to go through c++ again.

    To be honest its not that i hate OOP but sometimes i find it boring.Btw how to make those GUI s/w installation boxes i mean those boxes which appear when you execute a .exe file to install something.Is it visual basic?
    Yes Visual Basic allows to create Windows Form Application polished with simple GUI.
    But its too basic,obvioulsy its in the name!

    You can look forward to Visual C++ if you have good understanding of OOP and C++ and want to kickstart Creating C++ based Flexible Windows Apps.

    Opt for Qt while developing for Multiple platforms as its Cross Platforms and Port friendly.
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