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Old 04-09-2010, 04:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am in 9th standard and would love to learn to code and make new apps....am i too young to start? If not where do i start and what do i need to learn? Do i need to download any software?

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Old 06-09-2010, 02:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You can start learning Python. (or C)

I would suggest to use Python on GNU/Linux. But you can use Windows as well.

Download Python interpreter from Download Python

And here is beginner's guide to Python BeginnersGuide - PythonInfo Wiki
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Old 06-09-2010, 06:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If you like it, it doesn't matter if you are young, the soonest the better!
I will agree with the previews, Python is very good to start with
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Age dosen't matter.I am in std.7 but I also have started learning making apps..

IMO,you wanna learn a programming language for coding and all those stuffs.If that,then I recommend you reading :-
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/deve...-language.html
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Python is the way to start with.What languages you know already??
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Old 06-09-2010, 08:21 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Age dosen't matter.I am in std.7 but I also have started learning making apps..

IMO,you wanna learn a programming language for coding and all those stuffs.If that,then I recommend you reading :-
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/deve...-language.html
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Help in choosing a programming language - Stack Overflow

Python is the way to start with.What languages you know already??
I don't know any other languages So will python help me in creating apps?? For what platforms can i create apps??

there are a bunch of tutorial links provided in the python website but I don't which would be the best one....can u guyz help me?

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Old 22-09-2010, 08:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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PHP anyone? this one has really helped me a lot. hope it helps as well.

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i will recommend Visual Basic 6.0, purchase its book and start with it. it will really help u in learning basics of programming. Then go for python, after it C, C++,JAVA,C#.
in all these languages u can create programs for both windows and linux. but in Visual Basic 6.0 programs for windows can be created not for linux.
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Start with Pyhton.
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i will recommend Visual Basic 6.0, purchase its book and start with it.
Err... Visual Basic, that too 6.0?
Can somebody please confirm in which year are we? 2010 or 2001?
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Old 27-11-2010, 03:51 PM   #11 (permalink)
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1)Learn the basics properly: Get your OOP (Object oriented Programming )concepts right.
2) Practice: Practicing what you learn is most important and one cannot achieve goal of being a good programmer without practicing.
3) Learn to share : Sharing is the most important aspect of programmers.
5)Must learn: XML, HTML, JavaScript or any other scripting language, Ajax, SQL. This are the few basic things.
6)Track: After learning Basics and terminologies , choose just one platform. Programming languages are in vast numbers, Java, c#, C++, perl, PHP, ruby etc.

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Old 19-07-2011, 09:28 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Hi,

I also intend to learn programming.

For that I have few Question..

1. My main aim is to programme mathematical functions mainly for the purpose of statistical analysis.C++ is one of the language because it is widely used in Technical analysis packages.

2. Also I want to learn making queries to work in various excel sheets at 1 go.

Please suggest from where to start with.

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first get a grip on a programming language. then learn using some libraries for operating on .xls. python is a good option for you as it is easy to read,write and learn. it also has a good collection of libraries. for operating with excel files using python, Python Excel
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i will recommend Visual Basic 6.0, purchase its book and start with it.
VB6 is obsolete & is replaced by VB.NET...after all its microsoft...


@OP:yes,u can start with Python..its not poisonous
get ur concept cleared in OOPS.

u can also start with C & then C++
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Age does not matter you should start learning as soon as possibe . I think you should start with C , so just buy a book and start. Goodluck
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Default Learning Programming : Python

My background:

Programming : almost Nil nor I have IT background.

Nims11, suggested me to start with Python.

So today I am installing Pythin 3.2.1 along with its windows installer from below mention link:

Download Python

I Want to know which Books I can go though for the same.

Also regarding making Queries in SQL..wht are ur suggestions to start with.

I already tried my hand on Matlab. But my opinion regarding it is even to get simple thing Done one needs go through many steps.

if someone having Econometric Background then plz help.

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Here you go - BeginnersGuide - PythonInfo Wiki

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C, nothing is simple and better than this to start.
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@ garbage and Talk...with which IDE i should go for. I like Python tool kit. it is having matlab kind of environment. if u have any other thoughts do let me know..

Is there any good python forum for the same.

@ talk do i need to have knowledge of C to learn C++.

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C is very basic thing...u get to learn a gr8 deal ...then once you get basic understanding of OOPS , you can move on to web development ( not speaking about Photoshop or CSS)

for this you have PHP or asp.net stack....choose whatever you like...
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C is not a "basic" language. In fact C is a "tricky" language and compartively harder to learn correctly for beginners (too many traps, non-standard techniques, etc.). 90% of newbies (in India) code it incorrectly using non-portable and antiquated libraries and horrible programming practices. A newbie will most probably make a bad choices in his early days as well.

@chintan786 Just learn Python. Learn C after your learn Python.
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C is not a "basic" language. In fact C is a "tricky" language and compartively harder to learn correctly for beginners (too many traps, non-standard techniques, etc.). 90% of newbies (in India) code it incorrectly using non-portable and antiquated libraries and horrible programming practices. A newbie will most probably make a bad choices in his early days as well.

@chintan786 Just learn Python. Learn C after your learn Python.
Yes, you are right, I don't know why in nearly all the colleges first C is taught and that too using aged,non-standard Turbo C++ Compiler.
I would rather say first learn Visual Basic 6.0, although it is more than a decade old. But I will say you should prefer it because I think it is easiest language to learn. That's because most newbie wants to develop a GUI program which is very easy to develop in it. Just learn that procedural part. Then go for Python, learn it and become expert in it. After that go for C++ and at the end C. Or I would say go for C if and only if you want to become a system software developer. Then you can learn other languages like Java, C# etc.
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Well VB6 is way too old and doesn't really build concept. I know you are attached to it and smart enough to use it well but in 2011 it's not the answer.
Python + Tk are easy enough to learn anyway.
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C is not a "basic" language. In fact C is a "tricky" language and compartively harder to learn correctly for beginners (too many traps, non-standard techniques, etc.). 90% of newbies (in India) code it incorrectly using non-portable and antiquated libraries and horrible programming practices. A newbie will most probably make a bad choices in his early days as well.

@chintan786 Just learn Python. Learn C after your learn Python.
I can't be agree more than this..."C" is tricky lang.

Regarding Python. I'm using PTK IDE and tried below mention statement

print "Hello" hit enter ...ended up showing syntax error. Given statement was copied by me but stilll...

any idea why.

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You are probably using Python3, so it'll be print("Hello World")
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You are probably using Python3, so it'll be print("Hello World")
ya, I'm using python 3.2.1. BTW thanks for correction.

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C is not a "basic" language. In fact C is a "tricky" language and compartively harder to learn correctly for beginners (too many traps, non-standard techniques, etc.). 90% of newbies (in India) code it incorrectly using non-portable and antiquated libraries and horrible programming practices. A newbie will most probably make a bad choices in his early days as well.

@chintan786 Just learn Python. Learn C after your learn Python.
never used Python, but still C rules. if u r not good at it then dont say its tricky.
no matter what you learn, java , c , Python, every prog language has got few things in common..OOPS , data types..and few thing varies like how they implement OOPS, memory management. etc

Eg. In Java , you can have a derived class inherited from 2 or more base class but in C# , you cant. you can have derived class inherited from only 1 base class.

However, in C# , we have interfaces which a class can use to implement. A class can implement multiple interfaces which gives exactly same results as java (derived class inherited from 2 or more base class) but in much more simple and easy to understand manner avoiding complexity involved in java doing same.

All those colleges are not fool as you believe ..C is the best place to start and is the simplest thing.
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Write me a C program which:
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It also inputs your name and outputs it.

Go go go.

After you write that, we have a discussion in hand.
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I would rather say first learn Visual Basic 6.0, although it is more than a decade old. But I will say you should prefer it because I think it is easiest language to learn. That's because most newbie wants to develop a GUI program which is very easy to develop in it. Just learn that procedural part. Then go for Python, learn it and become expert in it. After that go for C++ and at the end C. Or I would say go for C if and only if you want to become a system software developer. Then you can learn other languages like Java, C# etc.


that a very very bad advice.... VB6 does not even supports full OOPS. its was good for desktop apps...
instead get a free VS 2010 IDE Express edition and learn C#

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It also inputs your name and outputs it.

Go go go.

After you write that, we have a discussion in hand.
i understand what you are pointing to..but at very start , main intention is to develop logic...and make you understand OOPS. make a fresher understand data types..objects,,inheritance...etc etc..

now when you develop real life apps , you dont need C (may be required for low level prog) ..you use tools like VS 2010 , SQL etc.
but thats too far...1st learn the basics.....classes,inheritance,polymorphism,
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never used Python, but still C rules. if u r not good at it then dont say its tricky.

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All those colleges are not fool as you believe ..C is the best place to start and is the simplest thing.
First of all, a normal person will only take your comments seriously if you have used both C and Python. C rules and it is powerful - everyone knows this. But the point is, C is a "jugaadu" language imo. Definitely not the right language for a beginner. Has plenty of hassles and it is best if a beginner stays away from those and learns a more to-the-point language like Python first. He can learn C anytime later. A beginner also doesn't have to deal with memory in Python.

As far as "simplest" thing goes, it is Python. Not C. And don't dare to think that people who have posted in this thread are not good in C.

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i understand what you are pointing to..but at very start , main intention is to develop logic...and make you understand OOPS. make a fresher understand data types..objects,,inheritance...etc etc..

now when you develop real life apps , you dont need C (may be required for low level prog) ..you use tools like VS 2010 , SQL etc.
but thats too far...1st learn the basics.....classes,inheritance,polymorphism,
well, most students in my class last year understood what stacks are but never really got the hang of pointers and memory management. You don't have to bother about this in Python.
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