Basic Guide Purchase a New System - Page 9

sagargv · 10-08-2007, 08:38 PM

thanks . how is a xfx 650i + stupid gfx like 6200 + e 6750 compared to asus p5b v/vm + c2q6600 ?
for OCing a c2d or c2q with a low end gfx card or onboard , wats the psu needed ?

Choto Cheeta · 10-08-2007, 10:00 PM

^^^

1st comment, P5B-VM is not that a great board when comes to extreme procy like C2Q 6600

2nd comment, XFX 6200 LE is Rs. 2000/- where as XFX 8400 GS is Rs. 2800/- + TAX, do i have to say any thing more ?? Choise is urs there

now for procy front C2Q and C2Q is totally different... C2Q is needed when u plan heavy multi tasking, 4 cores will be great there !!! but for Real life application right now I would prefer 650i ultra + 8400 GS + E6750

once again wait for others to comment, it was my personal view only

a_k_s_h_a_y · 10-08-2007, 10:18 PM

go for the quad if u can afford it........coz core wars have already began !!

soon OS and programs will be developed to use multi cores effeciently

sagargv · 10-08-2007, 11:12 PM

ok . basically, its for one of my frens . saw the prices , i think a c2d may be better for him . . .he isnt certain of the budget but i'll prefer c2q if possible.

neway , can u confirm if xfx 650i + 6200LE is better than asus p5k vm ? the reason i was asking for was that p5k was based on g33 chipset and 650i will need a BIOS upgrade . ..

Choto Cheeta · 11-08-2007, 12:23 AM

Well I would confirm that 6200 LE is worst than even G965 (X3000 GMA) 6200 le really sucks, I have one of those...

and why hell u are stuck with 6200 ?? its Rs. 2000/- where as XFX 8400 GS can come at Rs. 2800/- + TAX, 1k extra though but far far far better performance than any on board Video !!!

sagargv · 11-08-2007, 09:34 AM

ok . i'll get him the 8400GS , fine . i got ur point i just wanted the mobo comparison . how about asus p5k vm / xfx 650i ...the reason i was asking was ,
-asus p5k vm is based on g33 chipset which is newer and it wont need a BIOS update.
-xfx 650i will need a BIOS update . . .

ofcourse availability in b'lore matters but if there are both , which do i choose ?

Pathik · 11-08-2007, 10:03 AM

the 650i.. Cos it ocs better than the p5k vm.. Also is cheaper.. Also x3100 only supports sm2.0

sagargv · 11-08-2007, 10:56 AM

forget gaming , so he wont need sm . so only reason for preferring xfx is its a better OCer . .ok , thanks.

oh man , this is a very active thread , i'm getting answers within an hour or a night . .

Choto Cheeta · 11-08-2007, 11:05 AM

Quote:

forget gaming , so he wont need sm . so only reason for preferring xfx is its a better OCer . .ok , thanks.

see even he is not playing games still u see P5K-VM and XFX 650i + 8400 GS will be almost same in price, may be 1.5k extra max, but that 1.5k is worth of spending !!!

go4saket · 11-08-2007, 11:09 AM

Hey Little Devil, seeing your such vast knowledge in hardware field, I was just wondering if you deal in Hardware.

Choto Cheeta · 11-08-2007, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by go4saket

Hey Little Devil, seeing your such vast knowledge in hardware field, I was just wondering if you deal in Hardware.

nah.....

really dont deal in any stuff

and may be u missed this, also... Attn All Users --- Please read

BBThumbHealer · 11-08-2007, 11:37 AM

Excellent Thread Choto Cheeta !

Choto Cheeta · 11-08-2007, 11:38 AM

^^^

Ohh !! so u noticed

anyway, thnx for the comment frnd

BBThumbHealer · 11-08-2007, 11:39 AM

Sry for noticing it late

dr_jimit · 11-08-2007, 12:11 PM

I want One latest PC

What is the price difference between
C2Q6600
C2Q6700

Quadro Extreme 6700/6800/6850 [Pl say if available in Mumbai/ Lamington Road]

Is intel 975[xbx2 or something like that series] mobo with Q6700 GOOD Performer, Fully supported, full advantage of Quadcore or it is for dual core only?

i dont know much about ASUS / nforce motherboard, as i have faith in intel original board, Are they better, in which way ?

What Intel Motherboard and memory will be BEST for Q6700[my current choice] [or extreme editions]for 1333MHz FSB , best for 64 bit computing , dual Channel Memmory mode.
Money doesn't matter much.[Mid to high , but not extreme end, hehehe]

Is 2GB or more size DDR2 memory modules are available in mumbai, 800 MHz/more?
because only 4 GB [1GB X 4 Modules] can be added to motherboard like intel 975x[ 4 slots only]
Please help, as 4 GB will be barrier for 4 CPU cores in performance in 64 bit computing.

now The graphics card issue

the 8800GTS [17k] version or GTX [38k]?

The price is double but is there a similar performance gap ?
Or GTS should be the good value for money?
what is approx price of 8800GTS 768 MB ?

I heard that current DX10 Geforce 8 series will not support next DX 10.1 [before actual games arrive

]
so will 8500 GT 512MB 5.8k will be a good choice for mid to high end gaming in near future ?

Last , give your configuration ,Intel originalprefered,
For best perfomance without going in Extreme Price limits. [Mid to High]

Please answer whatever question you know,
Pl before next 10 days.

Thanks in Advance,

Dr. Jimit N. Vadgama

Choto Cheeta · 11-08-2007, 12:32 PM

whats ur Full Budget ?? that will be easy to compile a config... anyway lets go through the question one by one...

Quote:

What is the price difference between
C2Q6600
C2Q6700

Its almost double compare to Rs. 13k Q6600 but search, they are all posted !!!

Quote:

Quadro Extreme 6700/6800/6850 [Pl say if available in Mumbai/ Lamington Road]

Well search in the thread they are all posted... u will find Q6600 or any FSB 1333 C2D Procy in Mumbai but will be hard to get the Highest ones...

Quote:

Is intel 975[xbx2 or something like that series] mobo with Q6700 GOOD Performer, Fully supported, full advantage of Quadcore or it is for dual core only?

i dont know much about ASUS / nforce motherboard, as i have faith in intel original board, Are they better, in which way ?

Once again Did u read this thread fully, all these question are answered !!! ASUS / MSI / Gigabyte boards are better than Intel for sure... !!! Better feature in the price and most important in Core family procy ASUS / MSI they are exelent OC boards...

Quote:

What Intel Motherboard and memory will be BEST for Q6700[my current choice] [or extreme editions]for 1333MHz FSB , best for 64 bit computing , dual Channel Memmory mode.
Money doesn't matter much.[Mid to high , but not extreme end, hehehe]

Is 2GB or more size DDR2 memory modules are available in mumbai, 800 MHz/more?
because only 4 GB [1GB X 4 Modules] can be added to motherboard like intel 975x[ 4 slots only]
Please help, as 4 GB will be barrier for 4 CPU cores in performance in 64 bit computing.

Allas !!!

Please go though the Stickies, they are all answered in the hardware section stickies...

See mention the Budget, members will try to suggest u the Best which u can find in that price, then I suggest u ask these individual questions...

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Is 8800 supports Directx 10 ?

All 8xxx seris cards are DirectX 10 supported... !!! Lowest would be 8400 GS which is Rs, 2800/- + TAX

Quote:

Last , give your configuration ,Intel originalprefered,
For best perfomance without going in Extreme Price limits. [Mid to High]

and really u didnt even read the 1st thread

I have writen if u dont have a Budget Limit, MAC Pro or Alienware would be the choise for u...

MAC Pro

Intel 8 Core Processors (3.0 GHz / 16 MB L2)
16 GB DDR-II
4 x 750 GB (3 TB) Stogare
4 x 512 MB (2 GB) Nvidia Grfx Cards
2 x 30" Apple Display

Some 7.5 Lacks...

http://www.apple.com/macpro/

Alienware

Core 2 eXtreme QX6850 with liquide Cooling clocking at 3.33 Ghz
4 GB 1066 MHz High OverClockable RAMs
2 x 786 MB Nvidia 8800 GTX
4 TB Storage
Blu-Ray/DVD±RW/CD-RW Burner
PhysX PCI-E Card

Once again Some Rs. 7.5 lacks

http://www.alienware.com/product_det...de=SKU-DEFAULT

so I suggest please read the threads in the hardware section, will give u a complete idea on all ur questions...

john_the_ultimate · 11-08-2007, 06:24 PM

Saurav bhai...........the replacement mobo (XFX 650i Ultra) I got is DOA

So returned it back for another RMA. What do ya say? I am talking with rashi to give a me a ASUS mobo as the replacement and I am ready to pay the extra cost (whatever it maybe). Haven't decided on the mobo but if they agree then maybe will get some highend mobo.
Any suggestion??

Pathik · 11-08-2007, 07:47 PM

^^ high budget??? how about the p5k deluxe...
or if ur budget is about 7k then get a p5n e sli..
btw wat is DOA??

Choto Cheeta · 11-08-2007, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by john

Saurav bhai...........the replacement mobo (XFX 650i Ultra) I got is DOA

Jah !!! Bro I did expressed my concern over XFX as a motherboard brand... as see with ASUS they are really reliable where as XFX though in the card market for a long time, but really new comer in Mobo section...

Its seems the quality control is really in mess...

they didnt check the board before going out or the real posibility what happend is, by chance Rashi Kolkata Had another board for RMA they tested in their place to find no problem, so may be they took a chance and pushed u that one

as i was ammezed to see the fast action of their Service

So my suggestion wait... take another one to see what happens there... as for High end option u have P5N-E SLi or ASUS P5K-VM....

not really some gr8 option those

so wait for the second one

@pathiks

DOA = Dead on Arrival

john_the_ultimate · 12-08-2007, 02:30 AM

Ya........I am also playing the waiting game. This time I will see that I get a good mobo or asus as an replacement.

Choto Cheeta · 12-08-2007, 02:39 AM

Which ASUS one u have in ur mind ?? immidiate counter part P5N-E SLi or any higher one ??

john_the_ultimate · 12-08-2007, 02:54 AM

P5N-E SLi is the closest to my existing mobo but as for highend mobo, didn't got the time to read reviews, so you could help me there. Keeping in mind that I am thinking of getting the "quads" with some water cooling kit in a couple of months.

mukherjee · 12-08-2007, 10:16 AM

guys...i ve got the zeb antibiotic

but theres a confusion......theres a white wire(a pair) coming out of the lcd display...it doesnt seem to fit newhere?wat is it? is it the thermal sensor?but then the guide supplied says something must be present at the tip of the wire!!!

a_k_s_h_a_y · 12-08-2007, 11:16 AM

^^ that's cool what's the price ???

according to me the best would be ask for the side cover of ZEB Peace and use it in place of the ZEB Bijli ka side cover........and sale of the other cabinet made out of ZEB bijli side cover and ZEB Peace caby !!

this way u have front fan and also side LED fans !!

go4saket · 12-08-2007, 01:41 PM

Hey guys, I want to buy a 4:3 19" LCD with good response rates & viewing angles. Which one should I go for and please also mention the price for the same...

Third Eye · 12-08-2007, 02:07 PM

Which is better? E6750 or E6600.I will get xfx650 ultra mobo for one of of them.

Pathik · 12-08-2007, 02:55 PM

^^ 6750 anyday... better and cheaper...
but u ll have to get ur bios updated to use that..

sagargv · 12-08-2007, 05:13 PM

which ram ? transcend / kingston / corsair

dr_jimit · 12-08-2007, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choto Cheeta

whats ur Full Budget ?? that will be easy to compile a config... anyway lets go through the question one by one...

...................so I suggest please read the threads in the hardware section, will give u a complete idea on all ur questions...

Well, Thanks a lot Chota Cheeta,

My questions were for a perticular system, the compatibility issues, support each others, gfx card and cpu of such a same level to take take full advantage of each other,
I went through most of threads , and My questions remained unsolved.
as there were nothing i coulld find about Intel or 650i ultra comparision, all there was a crap of 650i BIOS.

Budget < 50,000 for the Whole PC excluding Gfx card and monitor

I already decided Dell Ultrasharp 24" monitor,
Microsoft Wireless laser mouse + KB
Zebronics Bijli cabinet

600 GB SATA Seagate 7200RPM
LiteOn 20X LightScribe DVD writer

Gfx card as digit forum will suggest.

CPU Q6700

mobo Intel one, will 975 xbx2 support fully q6700? I am asking again Pl Pl Help Me ,
full Quadrocore support, or it just made for C2D?
Q6700 FSB is 1066mhz but mobo has 1333MHz support , Right ?
so will it support or no Boot ?

If you know any other intel original motherboard which fully support quadrocore PL PL tell me, what about
G31, G33
P31,P35

Intel website says they support quadrocore
but are intel original boards of this Chips,are available in Mumbai
or they are made only by asus / xfx / other company using these chip only?
I am totally confused, PL PL help me on CPU+ Mobo Isssue,

thanks again for answering me,

Dr. Jimit Vadgama