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Old 29-10-2005, 01:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi everyone I have planned to buy a new computer. My budget is Rs.35,000. I expect the following things in my computer:

1. AMD 64 bit processor.
2. Best motherboard with on board graphics card & others.
3. 2*512 mb ram.
4. sata hard disk 80gb
5. DVD Writer.
6. TV tuner card.
7. Floppy drive.
8. Attractive cabinet with 400 watts power supply.
9. 17” flat monitor.
10. Multimedia keyboard & Optical mouse.


Please tell me a good configuration according to my requirement.Also mention the price.

I will buy the computer @ the end of November Please reply me as soon as possible.

This will not alone be useful for me but it will be useful for all the mid range buyers. So please take this into consideration & post all your Suggestions.

Thanks in advance.

NOTE : This config Should not exceed My budget i.e. Rs.35,000.
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Old 29-10-2005, 05:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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A simple config which will suit all

CPU
Athlon64 3000+ venice core, if U can extend the budget then get a

3200+ venice

Motherboard
Asus A8V for AGP Slot
Asus A8N-E rev.2 for PCI-E
ATI RS480 chipset based motherboard for PCI-E & onboard gfx

RAM : U already mentioned, I prefer Kingston or Kingmax anyday

SATA Hard disk : Segate 7200.7 or Hitachi 7K80

Lite-on or Sony DVD writer, which ever U can get, ASUS is also a good choice

Pinnacle PCTV Stereo TV Tuner card, however if U can find, go for Pixelview PlayTV@7200, as it got hardware mpeg-2 encoding, which will help a lot for Recording stuff

Cabinet depends on your choice, I prefer a Frontech Pace cabinet,as it got option for many Fans, with a Colorsit M350U SMPS or Antec

Samsung 793MB anyday for the monitor

Keyboard & mouse depends on U, however I use a Logitech Internet pro desktop, Wireless

If U wanna game, add a XFX Geforce 6600GT to this config
 
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Thank u gxsaurav.
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what abt the prices ?
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Gx, navino wants everything within 35k along with the price. I cant understand how can you manage a 6600GT in 35k. He has clearly mentioned WITHIN 35k.

best option wod be to go for a AMD 64 3200+ with MSIRs480, this would cost you about 14k. Has good onboard graphics which you require.

Add another 4.5-5k for 512x2 MB ddr ram. A 80gig sata hard disk would set you back by a lil less t.han 3k. DL Dvd writer are quiet cheap now. If you get hold of a Benq 1680 then dont miss it. These cost round abt 3k now. If you are not in heavy duty recoding from TV-tuners, the compro/pinnacle tvtuners are good enough and cost near about 2k. You would be smart enough to choose the other peripherals.
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Old 29-10-2005, 05:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Will this configuration work out ?


CPU-AMD Athlon 64 3200+( 939 ) venice core
Mother Board-MSI RS480M2-IL (939 socket)
Ram-Hynix 2*512 MB DDR 400 MHz
Hard disk-Seagate 80 gb Sata hdd
Monitor-Samsung SyncMaster 793s (black)
Optical drive-Lite-on DVD-Writer 16x drive (black)
Floppy Drive-Sony (black)
Keyboard-Logitech (black)Multimedia
Mouse-Logitech optical (black)
Power Supply-ANTEC 400 Watts (24 pins)
Cabinet-ANTEC Any cabinet (black)
TV Tuner Card-Compro VideoMate PVR/FM

Also please post the price of all above mentioned components.

Will this come under Rs.35,000?
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Old 29-10-2005, 05:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
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please post all ur comments on the above mentioned configuration.
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Old 29-10-2005, 06:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
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thats quite a good one.u can plz change the ram to kingston/transcend.only a few bucks more but heck a lot of difference.
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Will this configuration work out ?


CPU-AMD Athlon 64 3200+( 939 ) venice core
Mother Board-MSI RS480M2-IL (939 socket)
Ram-Hynix 2*512 MB DDR 400 MHz
Hard disk-Seagate 80 gb Sata hdd
Monitor-Samsung SyncMaster 793s (black)
Optical drive-Lite-on DVD-Writer 16x drive (black)
Floppy Drive-Sony (black)
Keyboard-Logitech (black)Multimedia
Mouse-Logitech optical (black)
Power Supply-ANTEC 400 Watts (24 pins)
Cabinet-ANTEC Any cabinet (black)
TV Tuner Card-Compro VideoMate PVR/FM

Also please post the price of all above mentioned components.

Will this come under Rs.35,000?
You can't possibly squeeze in an antec 400W psu and a antec cabinet with a budget of 35k unless you are getting the stuff from abroad. Lets see what this config costs you

CPU-AMD Athlon 64 3200+( 939 ) venice core - 9.5k
Mother Board-MSI RS480M2-IL (939 socket) - 5k
Ram-Hynix 2*512 MB DDR 400 MHz - 4.4k
Hard disk-Seagate 80 gb Sata hdd - 2.8k
Monitor-Samsung SyncMaster 793s (black) - 6.5k
Optical drive-Lite-on DVD-Writer 16x drive (black) - 3.4k (Benq 1640)
Floppy Drive-Sony (black) - 300
Keyboard-Logitech (black)Multimedia 400
Mouse-Logitech optical (black) 300
Power Supply-ANTEC 400 Watts (24 pins) - 4k
Cabinet-ANTEC Any cabinet (black) - 3.7k (antec 1650, comes with a 350W psu)
TV Tuner Card-Compro VideoMate PVR/FM - 2.5k
= 39k exclusing the cost of the 400W psu.

This is what i would suggest
AMD 64 3000+ - 7.4k
MSI rs-480 - 5k
1Gb hynix ddr400 - 4.4k
Hard disk-Seagate 80 gb Sata hdd - 2.8k
Monitor-Samsung SyncMaster 793s (black) - 6.5k
Benq 1640 dvd writer - 3.4k
Floppy Drive-Sony (black) - 300
Keyboard-Logitech (black)Multimedia 400
Mouse-Logitech optical (black) 300
Generic cabiner with Powersafe 400W psu - 2.2k
TV Tuner Card-Compro VideoMate PVR/FM - 2.5k
Total = 35.3k
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Old 29-10-2005, 07:35 PM   #10 (permalink)
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thank u blade_runner.

1.wat is the difference between amd 3000+ & 3200+ ? is 3000+ is enough ? my frnd insisted me to get a pross which is >2 ghz. Will 3000+ be future proof ?

2.wat is the difference between SyncMaster 793s & SyncMaster 793mb? also mention the price of both.
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Old 29-10-2005, 09:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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s0ura, take a look again, i mentioned that if U need games then only include a 6600GT, else a 6200 non ultra for Rs 3200 is good enough & affordable within the price range

i also mentioned a frontech cabinet + colorsit SMPS = Rs 1500, with good enough power & cooling, u can leave antec, even this is good enough
 
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thank u blade_runner.

1.wat is the difference between amd 3000+ & 3200+ ? is 3000+ is enough ? my frnd insisted me to get a pross which is >2 ghz. Will 3000+ be future proof ?

2.wat is the difference between SyncMaster 793s & SyncMaster 793mb? also mention the price of both.
The Diff between 3000+ and 3200+ is a mere 200Mhz. Yes 3000+ will suffice you for quite some time in gaming and your other applications as well.

The diff between the 793s and Mb is mostly those extra features that magicbrite packs.
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Old 29-10-2005, 10:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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1.Is there any other motherboard which has a good on-board graphics card ?????????????????????????

2.Wat is the price of 793s & 793mb ? Which 1 is cheap ?
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Here's the configuration:

Processor (can't say):
AMD Athlon64 3200+ 939-pin running at 2.0 GHZ with 640 KB cache (128 KB L1, 512 KB L2)
Go for the one with 1 MB cache but would be expensive.

Motherboard (can't say):
MSI K8N Neo2-FX with AGP 8x slot (go for MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum for AGP 8x, if available.)
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum with PCI-x16 slot
I'll prefer MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum.

RAM (4500-5500 for individual 1 GB stick, 2500-2800 for 512 MB Stick):
Kingston/Corsair 1 GB RAM @ 400 MHZ (Transcend isn't compatible with above mentioned MSI boards. Don't go for Hynix RAM's, they're c_r_a_p.)

Hard Disk (2900- can't say):
Seagate 80/120 GB SATA (capacity depends upon u'r needs)

Floppy Disk (230-280):
Sony 1.44 MB

DVD-Writer (3000-3600):
Sony DRU-810A (Liteon, Asus & Benq are also good)

TV-Tuner Card (2000-2500):
Pinnacle or Compro with FM Tuner

Cabinet (800-1600 + 4000-5000 (PSU)):
U can go for any simple ATX cabinet (I prefer Intex, Priya, Navtech). Then, get the PSU changed to Antec 400W. It will be much cheaper & good cos u'll get a cabinet of u'r choice with a powerful PSU.

Monitor (5000-6000):
Samsung 793MB 17"
LG is good too but a little costly.
U can also go for Benq, if available.

Keyboard & Mouse (800-900):
Logitech as well as Microsoft provide combo packs of wired multimedia keyboard & optical mouse. Both are good.
Wireless packs would be expensive.

Graphics Card (can't say):
ATI or nVidia with atleast 256 MB RAM.
AGP or PCI-x16 depends on which motherboard u buy.
Go for PCI-x16 as AGP would be extinct in 2-3 years.

U'll get processor+motherboard package much cheaper. Individual processor & motherboard would be expensive. So search for vendors that are willing to provide combo packs of these both.

The above mentioned boards do not have onboard graphics but are good investment if u buy any of them.
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Please tell me about other good motherboad which has onboard graphics card and other new features.
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Old 30-10-2005, 11:25 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Please tell me about other good motherboad which has onboard graphics card and other new features.
If u want a board for AMD with integreted graphics,then i would suggest the same board i.e MSI RS480.If integreted graphics not required then ASUS A8N-E with 6200 card.But then this might go over 35k
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U better check if nvidia Geforce 6100 or 6150 chipset based motherboards are available or not, they are good Onboard gfx capable motherboard with PCI-E slot for future upgrade
 
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which company's cabinet will be looking great i.e. attractive with affortable price. Which should be within my budget.
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the choice of cabinet is pure subjective, like i prefer Solid & Plane looking cabinets while some other like engraved ones, here is a pic of my frontech cabinet

 
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on saturday I assembled a friend's PC with that frontech cabinate. It is well ventilated but the front USB panel is very delicate. also if u push little hard it goes in the cabinate slightly, which can not be fixed.
Go for mercury-kobian cabs they have good build quality.
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Is overclocking possible with 3200 & 3000 processors?
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over clocking is possible with any CPU, given that the motherboard supports overclocking

almost all the AMD motherboards support overclocking
 
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Blade_Runner's config was absolutely perfect! A Powersafe is the least PSU I would recommend below an Antec. The Colorsit isnt all too good.

IMO, it aint worth going for the 3200+ over the 3000+ for a mere 200Mhz speed gain , the 3200+ is almost 2000 bucks more than the 3000+ ! However i believe price cuts are expected from AMD, and the 3200+ could become as cheap as a 3000+ proc.

If you're looking for a motherboard with onboard graphics, the only option is the MSI RS480-M2 . The other option would be Geforce 6100 based nvidia boards, unfortunately I havent seen them in India yet.
If you want to forego onboard graphics, you would need a PCI-E board + Geforce 6200TC. The Cheapest PCI-E board i've heard is the Winfast nForce4 Ultra, sells for around ~ 5k. A 6200TC would be around 2.5K, which ends up around 7.5K, so considering that it could be a *bit* expensive, but on the whole would be better.

The MSI board is a pretty no-frills board, no PCI-E 1x slots apart from the PCI-E 16x slot, mATX form factor, and NO overclocking !
This answers your above question - 3000+ and 3200+ processors can be overclocked, but that entirely depends on whether your mother supports overclocking !
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Ok. Thanks every one who helped me
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ok. Let us consider this way Getting a good motherboard without integrated graphics card and getting a graphics card which is as equal to the performance of MSI RS480-M2 board. How much will it cost.

Please mention the board & graphics card.
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in that caase, I would recomend a 3000+ with Asus A8V + Geroce 6200 non TC, & overclock the 3000+ to 3200+, overclock the clock speed by 2000 MHz, it won't affect temprtature in any sence
 
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^^For overclocking a8v isn't recommended, plus the fact its a bit hard to find these days. You can opt for a8n-e and 3000+ with a 6200.
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^ Yep, the Asus A8V is an AGP board, AFAIK the 6200 AGP is pretty expensive ! Moreover the K8T800 Pro chipset doesnt have properly implemented AGP/PCI locks - hence it isnt ideal to use it for overclocking.
Only the Asus A8V-E is a PCI-E based board.
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isn't A8N-E a bit costly for this budget, even A8V-E is a good option

but if u can squaze in an A8N-E then go for it
 
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