suggestions on my(proposed) gaming pc config

[CommanderShawnzer]

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run?
Ans:Mass effect 3,crysis 2,elder scrolls : skyrim, witcher 2 and battlefield 3 at medium settings at HD(720p)
photoshop,unreal development kit,3d studio max 11

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: Budget 35K though i can Extend to 40K max

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans:
nope
4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans:
windows 7 64-bit/dual boot windows xp 64-bit

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans:500gb - 1tb

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans:
no, will use old monitor HPvp17 17"(1280x1240), old "Creative" speakers
7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: reusing my old monitor HPvp17 17"(1280x1240), old "Creative" speakers

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans:by mid/late may

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:
no,but i will try(suggestions are welcome on how to assemble a rig)
10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans:Navi-Mumbai,Maharashtra
i'll buy most of the stuff locally and components which are out of stock locally i'll buy them online and vice-versa

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans:its okay if you skimp on KB/mouse but it should be durable and the "gaming" tag is not necessary

[SunE]

i'm planning on using my Ancient HPvp17 monitor(17" 1280 x 1024)
any cost cutting suggestions are welcome(especially on OS and new Moni.)

Not really sure what you mean by this.

the rig's cost should be just enough to convince a 15 year old's parents

That depends on how much your parents love you

[CommanderShawnzer]

Not really sure what you mean by this.

dude i meant whats the most cost effecient full hd monitor if i'm buying a new one and which OS should i use? win 7 HB or win 7 HP

[Cilus]

For Monitor: BenQ G2220HD @ 7K or 2220HDL @ 7.5K
For Gfx card: MSI Cyclone HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 @ 8.6K...far better than GTX 550 Ti.

[RiGOD]

^^So true. 550Ti is one hell of a power hungry card (considering its performance).

[CommanderShawnzer]

El Cheapo Build



Benq G2220HD @ Rs. 7,640.00

Spoiler:

some questions
1.i have a acer 5742G which runs windows 7 HB so, if i create a Backup/system repair disc will i be able to use this disc to install windows on my new rig??(the more people answer the better)
2.since i've switched to a low range proccy is there a cheap mobo?

[thetechfreak]

1.i have a acer 5742G which runs windows 7 HB so, if i create a
Backup/system repair disc will i be
able to use this disc to install
windows on my new rig??

absolutely no.
2. The processor price is double. The i3 doesnt cost 10k.
3. Cheaper motherboard
link

[CommanderShawnzer]

absolutely no.
2. The processor price is double. The i3 doesnt cost 10k.
3. Cheaper motherboard
link

2.mistake.rectified it with right price
3.thanks for the link.is the mobo compatible with my config?

[thetechfreak]

Obviously it is compatible otherwise I wouldn't have given you the link

[CommanderShawnzer]

one more question

i was browsing other threads and i observed that most people recommend a quad-core proccy,but an i5-2400K is to expensive for my budget. can someone please suggest an equivalent cheap ati/amd quad proccy(and a supported mobo) which can support a gtx 550 ti/hd 6850??

[sam]

Phenom II 960T + Asus M5A97. grab a Hyper 212 Evo & overclock it.

[CommanderShawnzer]

Phenom II 960T + Asus M5A97. grab a Hyper 212 Evo & overclock it.

hey Sam Im a noob so i'm not intrested in OC'ing right now. is 960t effective without OC'ing?
can you recommend a suitable PSU?(960t eats more power than i3-2100)

[thetechfreak]

Yes its quite very effective without Overclocking too. Although i5 is better in terms of gaming but this processor too does not lag too much behind.

[CommanderShawnzer]

updated config or post #6
is PSU Appropriate?

[thetechfreak]

Yes its fine. Although the 550Ti is nagging a little
you can get this for just a little more
MSI R6850-PM2D1GD5 Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Graphic Card with Eyefinity
although I think then the budget will be pushed too far

[sam]

hey Sam Im a noob so i'm not intrested in OC'ing right now. is 960t effective without OC'ing?

yes. i recently assembled a rig for my friend with same config. only 2 problems i found are: failed to find CPU multiplier (first time used UEFI). extra cores can't be unlocked. motherboard doesn't allows this for 960T.

about overclocking, you may use Asus built in utility to overclock. Another thing which was totally unexpected was 960T ships with a crap Athlon II cooler (no heatpipes). So be ready to sell out more on a cooler if it doesn't ships with the cooler with heatpipes.

can you recommend a suitable PSU?(960t eats more power than i3-2100)

the PSU you have selected is fine. Phenom II demands a lot more power if overclocked. thats the original problem with AMD. try overclocking and power consumption shoots through the roof. though, you can do the opposite and undervolt it @ stock speed. some chips work 0.3V lower than stock voltage.

[CommanderShawnzer]

yes. i recently assembled a rig for my friend with same config. only 2 problems i found are: failed to find CPU multiplier (first time used UEFI). extra cores can't be unlocked. motherboard doesn't allows this for 960T.

about overclocking, you may use Asus built in utility to overclock. Another thing which was totally unexpected was 960T ships with a crap Athlon II cooler (no heatpipes). So be ready to sell out more on a cooler if it doesn't ships with the cooler with heatpipes.

I'm not intrested in OC'ing right now.will the stock cpu cooler cool properly even if i play heavy games(bf3,c2 on mid settings) without over clocking?
if the stock cpu cooler is crap can you please suggest cheap and effective cpu coolers?
there is also phenom II 970 does that have an effecient stock cooler?

[sam]

I'm not intrested in OC'ing right now.will the stock cpu cooler cool properly even if i play heavy games(bf3,c2 on mid settings) without over clocking?

not sure buddy. i have Athlon II X4 and under load it hardly touches 50. first buy and if yours ship with a poor HSF, order a tube of good TIM.

if the stock cpu cooler is crap can you please suggest cheap and effective cpu coolers?

Cooler Master TX3.

there is also phenom II 970 does that have an effecient stock cooler?

this is the first time i heard/seen a Phenom II X4 with such a cooler. And as expected it didn't have any AMD sticker on the processor. So maybe AMD is bundling some el cheapo coolers with Phenom II. google it. i believe this is not the only case.

[CommanderShawnzer]

El Cheapo V2.0





SEASONIC 12ii-520 seems too beefy for this config(or is it just me?)
is there a cheaper PSU fro the above config

[rajhans]

^^ i think you should go for 7750...consumes less power and better performance than 6770.( not sure)
Even the price is same, Im getting mine for 7050rs...

[SunE]

Dude you have to get at least a 6850. It's the bare minimum these days.

[CommanderShawnzer]

what tools do i need for assembling my pc?
can someone post a link to a guide for assembling pc's?

[sam]

a screwdriver and a hour of spare time.

[CommanderShawnzer]

i've opted for phenom ii 970 'cause it ships with a good cooler and heating pipes
(read reviews on various sites)and this proccy is also OC'able(some said it was OCable to 4ghz while most said in reviews its OCable to 3.8ghz)

now, should i buy this or stick to getting 960t since it is OCable to 6 cores?


what UPS should i buy(recommend a cost effecient one/cheap n durable)?

coming to the OS : my IT dealer is offering win 7 ultimate for rs600(of course i know the OS is obtained from some other way....)he says he'll give it to me for free of i buy the components from his shop
vs flipkarts win 7 HP for rs6000 what say?

[theserpent]

Commander your getting hd 7750 oc edition fo 6.5 k at itwares and primeabgb

[Cilus]

Regarding the Cooler of the Phenom II processors, all the quad cores ships with same type of cooler, only the 6 cores come with a better cooler.

So there is no point of getting a Phenom II 970 just for a better cooler. If you want better cooler then simply opt for Phenom II 965, available at 6.4K.

Let me suggest the whole rig to you, assuming your budget is around 45K.

AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE 3.4 GHz@ 6.4K
Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 @ 6.6K (better than Asus 970)
G-skill RipjawX 4 GB 1600 MHz Ram @ 1.55K
Zotac GTX 560 1GB GDDR5 @ 10.8K
WD Blue 500GB @ 4.3K
Asus DRW-24B3ST @ 1K
BenQ G2220HDL @ 7.5K
CM ELite 370 @ 2K
Seasonic SII12 520W @ 4K
logitech mk200 usb 2.0 @ 0.7K

Total is around 45K. This system is pretty much balanced to handle all your needs.

[CommanderShawnzer]

@cilus: phenom 965 is out of stock on flipkart.so i could not tally total price anyways i'l check with my IT component dealer if he has a 965
i'l be getting this config in mid-May so by that time flipkart might restock it

[Cilus]

Phenom II 965 is available at smcinternational.in. You can get it from them also.

Also, in flipkart MSI Cyclone 6850 is 1k pricer than the price in smcinternational.in

[RiGOD]

^^Out of stock there also. Only 955 is available.

[Cilus]

Then 960T is the best option. CommanderShawnzer, get the 1600 MHz RipjawX from G-skill at Rs 1550 with free shipping from Theitwares.com. Unlike Intel Sandybridge Non-K processors, all the Phenom series do support 1600 MHz ram speed by altering the memory multiplier in mobo BIOS.