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Old 05-02-2012, 01:50 PM   #61 (permalink)
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@ sabya

Don't get confused buddy. Stay calm and keep a clear head when buying the right stuff.
Let me clear some of your doubts:

LGA 2011 will also get the 22nm treatment and the cpu's will be codenamed as ivybridge-E (Enthusiast). They will be 6 core to 8 core and will be targeted towards heavy multitaskers or while using hugely threaded apps.

LGA 1155 22nm cpus are ivybridge only.

What we are saying that you stick with 1155 only as you don't need the 2011 platform for your usage. Remember both platforms give upgrade paths but the former is better for your usage as you'll only be gaming heavily. Invest the money saved in better gpu's and other peripherals.

The best solution for you right now is to go for a 2600k+z68 combo. Its incredibly powerful and will save you a lot of cash. Or if you can wait till march, ivybridge(1155) might launch as well. So i recommend you to stick with 1155 platform.

Tell us your opinions mate.
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Old 06-02-2012, 03:05 AM   #62 (permalink)
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@vickybat
thanks a lot buddy.
I can wait till march because I will be receiving my funding at that time only
Hope Ivy bridge arrives at that time
@extreme gamer, ghonada, tenida, d3p, dp6bmg and all others
Kindly suggest the best possible alternative cpu+ mobo combo to my build
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i would suggest stick with 1155 & get 2600k + z68
i guess that might create a bit of bottleneck yaar

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^ I loled after seeing the cabinet you have suggested in your suggestion. Other components are good though and this will also overshoot OP's budget. .
oh sorry but d6bmg y are you always behind me anyway i get many things to learn from that
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i guess that might create a bit of bottleneck yaar
Can u explain this part?
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oh sorry but d6bmg y are you always behind me anyway i get many things to learn from that
Neah! I'm not always behind anyone or something like that. I just try to think about vfm components in respect to the total money spent on any rig.
And, I think, you should think a bit more before posting any comment. Although mistakes will happen by everyone but that can be controlled.

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Can u explain this part?
i mean that a 2600k could bottleneck 2x7970 unless and until he overclock it to a ~5Ghz which is possible only on liquid cooling(mostly) a 3930K is a Hex and has HT which makes it virtually a 12 core CPU which can handle a pair of 7970 when clocked at ~4.5Ghz and that more futureproof also got it

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I just try to think about vfm components in respect to the total money spent on any rig.
it takes some experience for that too buddy hats, looking forward to learn many more thing from u guys and TDF
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Bottleneck with i7 2600k & results few fps drops.

Still suggestion for i7 3930k + X79 + HD 7970CF or Kepler SLI.
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i mean that a 2600k could bottleneck 2x7970 unless and until he overclock it to a ~5Ghz which is possible only on liquid cooling(mostly)
2600K(@4.5GHz)+2*7970 @1080p in BF3 uses 50% of CPU & 5.3GB of sys. memory, so 2600k is not a bottleneck with 7970CFX.
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For gaming, 2600K~3930k.. OP's decision though..
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even i would suggest getting a 2600K now and upgrade to an ivy bridge CPU (as the socket will be the same) after 6-8 months. And get a single 7970 for now, and take the other 7970 when u feel the need, the "Need for Speed" i mean
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2600K(@4.5GHz)+2*7970 @1080p in BF3 uses 50% of CPU & 5.3GB of sys. memory, so 2600k is not a bottleneck with 7970CFX.
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Very true and that's exactly what i was trying to say. 3930k isn't needed as a gaming only cpu. It caters to a different set of needs.
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:58 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Thanks a lot for the excellent tips for PC configuration from all of you guys..
In just about a month (in March I will be getting the PC if I does not get too tempted by kepler) I hope we will all come to future proof conclusion about the specification till then (as budget is not a problem here)

Just got info from engadet.com about a supposedly leaked roadmap of the nVIDIA gpu and I think nVidia will give some tough competition this time
However its scheduled to release in april and god knows when it will come to India
NVIDIA's 2012 Kepler lineup revealed (possibly) -- Engadget

Regarding the chasis I have received some excellent suggestion and I am going to hover on the cooler master cosmos 2 (for now). I know its huge (I like it that way) but I figured out that I will not be wasting on 200mm fans (which I need to remove from chasis like CM HAF-X to fit my radiator corsair H100). However my points of concern are regarding the amount of space to fit in the radiator on the top (after installing a suitable atx mobo) and subsequent fitting of fans and there configuration. I have thought of something and need your expertise to guide me
1. H100+2 nos 120mm Fans totally on the inside pushing out air (hope it fits)
2. 2 nos 120 mm fans inside + H 100 on the outside pushing out air
3. 2 nos 120mm fans inside + H 100 on the outside coupled to another 2 nos 120mm fans (H100 supports four fans) and the whole unit in a push-pull config (hope its possible)
4. H100 on the inside and fans on the outside pulling in air
5. Replace the fans with other ones with slimmer profile and led lighting to fit on the inside
6. Remove the hosing and attach custom ones and put the radiator on the bottom (i am not sure if it is possible)
7. 2 nos 120mm fans + H 100 on the inside and another 2 nos 120mm fans on the outside and the whole unit in a push-pull config (hope its possible)

About H100 I have read the reviews which says the product is a no headache superior liquid cooler so not totally willing to change it at this momment

The cabinet supports triple radiator setup on the top though but i dont think its available in India
I am not a fan of heatsinks directly on the CPU (the look good though)

I am giving also the links for reference
H100 - Hydro Series? H100 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler - Hydro Series - Cooling
Cosmos 2 - Cosmos II - Cooler Master

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Old 09-02-2012, 12:18 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Do you seriously wish to watercool?
May be overkill but seriously I don't like the coolers attached to the CPU like chunks of rocks. Better keep them simple. And I am planning to overclock so I believe it will also be necessary precaution from over heating
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^^ Well, word of caution: getting the res, pump, and other water-blocks as well as good coolant would be a though job for you, specially very good quality of coolant.

My bad. Misunderstood the previous post.

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^^ Well, word of caution: getting the res, pump, and other water-blocks as well as good coolant would be a though job for you, specially very good quality of coolant.
Precisely my friend. But the cooler I have thought of (ie the Corsair H100 but I am always open to suggestions from you guys) is for the CPU only. I am not talking about replacing the cooler in the GPU/ram with water cooling (it is done but again as you said proper accessory was unavailable in Nehru place when I checked). This cooler has the pump,res and coolant all in built and IT PROMISES lifetime performance with zero maintenance. other 1155 cooler do look good may perform better but I personally don't like those huge heat sinks sitting on my processor. In future perhaps I would go for proper water cooling and so keeping my options open by selecting CM cosmos 2 such that I can stuff all the accessory inside as the case is huge.
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^ Oh, sorry. I misunderstood your post. I thought that you are going for custom liquid cooling.
Using H100 can't be considered exactly as liquid cooling as you don't need anything but to buy that H100 set, as it is pre-filled cooler and don't need refilling.

Sorry and thus ignore my previous post.

And H100 is very good cooler and I would suggest you the same without any second thought.
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May be overkill but seriously I don't like the coolers attached to the CPU like chunks of rocks. Better keep them simple. And I am planning to overclock so I believe it will also be necessary precaution from over heating
That was not what I meant. I do watercool my own PC (not corsair/antec toys).

If you wish to do do real watercooling and are ready to face hassles, like maintenance every 8-12 months during which your PC can be offline for anywhere between a week to 2 weeks, then custom cooling is for you.

Otherwise get an H100.
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have you considered the current Core i7 2700k?
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That was not what I meant. I do watercool my own PC (not corsair/antec toys).

If you wish to do do real watercooling and are ready to face hassles, like maintenance every 8-12 months during which your PC can be offline for anywhere between a week to 2 weeks, then custom cooling is for you.

Otherwise get an H100.
Thanks a lot for the info. I have planned for the h100 solely because I may not be able to invest time in experimenting with my rig. I just want to play games for a year or so and during my next upgrade I will be going for custom watercooling and other stuffs. I will have time in my hand then to experiment and will learn a lot from all you guys by then to have enough confidence to not play safe.

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^ Oh, sorry. I misunderstood your post. I thought that you are going for custom liquid cooling.
Using H100 can't be considered exactly as liquid cooling as you don't need anything but to buy that H100 set, as it is pre-filled cooler and don't need refilling.

Sorry and thus ignore my previous post.

And H100 is very good cooler and I would suggest you the same without any second thought.
Thanks a lot and no problem
however though please suggest the configuration which will be beneficial to the processor. I have listed something which I could think have. Kindly suggest which one to go for( and why if possible) or any other better alternative configurations

Well a lot of you suggested me to go for 1155+ z68 combo which logically seems to be a better decision (keeping in mind that I am only gaming and won't be doing multi threaded application and also Ivy bridge suppot)
so I would like to know in all of your opinion the best z68 mobo available in India at this momment. I checked a few ones myself like asrock fatality professional and want to know whether it will be a suitable buy or not or whether it is available in India.
I will be doing some minor overclocking so looking for a feature full but sturdy board..
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Thanks a lot and no problem
however though please suggest the configuration which will be beneficial to the processor. I have listed something which I could think have.
Corsair H100 would be more than enough for the processor and even you can OC it upto 4.5 without any problem.
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H100 can do way more than that...
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I really did not get you on this one...
anyways though any suitable z68 mobo..pls refer

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OT: Well, how many people do overclock beyond even 4GHz in India even with their good air coolers & having unlocked processor?
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I really did not get you on this one...
anyways though any suitable z68 mobo..pls refer
Megamind is saying that with h100 cooler you can overclock more than 4.5Ghz mark.
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A little bit help regrading the selection of monitors
You all have suggested to go for
Asus VK278Q (http://in.asus.com/Display/LCD_Monit...specifications)
The specs are very good and I checked online prices to be around 25K mark

However though I came across a monitor from samsung
Samsung S27A550HS (Enjoy the smarter monitor with intelligent eco solutions. - S27A550H - LED Monitor - Monitor | SAMSUNG)
which is priced in the 20K region

Now the specs looked identical only the Asus one has a 2 MP inbuilt webcam. Now I want to ask is the extra 5K worth for a 2MP webcam or there is other things I have overlooked which might justify the hike in price for asus.
And samsung is the manufacturers of monitors so it might have an edge over asus. (Dont tell me about Samsung service- I know and in my case they have been a little less than disastrous)

Kindly help me to decide guys on the monitor

I have almost finalized the built with excellent inputs from you guys and will post the final build soon so you could give any final thoughts about it before buying in March 1st week.
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I really did not get you on this one...
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@sabya, Ghonada got me right.. H100 can easily push over 5GHz mark keeping the temps under control...
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My Final (well almost) Build
Open to suggestions (Pls just dont tell me to wait for kepler n all) always.
The prices and availability of brands are from Theitdepot - India's First IT Online Shopping Store
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Buying in March 2012
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1 G.skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600MHz Desktop RAM (F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR)3360.002 6720.00
2 Corsair Force Series 3 240GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (CSSD-F240GB3-BK)24015.001 24015.00
3 Thermaltake Full Tower Chassis Level 10 GT ATX Cabinet (VN10001W2N)18370.001 18370.00
4 Corsair Hydro Series H100 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CWCH100)7925.001 7925.00
5 Asus Radeon HD7970 3GB DDR5 ATI PCI E Graphics Card (HD7970-3GD5)35905.002 71810.00
6 Asus 27inch Wide Screen LED Monitors (VK278Q)25365.001 25365.00
7 Asus P8Z68 DELUXE-GEN3 32GB DDR3 Intel Motherboard18830.001 18830.00
8 Corsair Professional Series Gold 1200W Power Supply (CMPSU-1200AX)20095.001 20095.00
9 Intel Core i7-2700K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Desktop Processor (BX80623I72700K)20610.001 20610.00
10 Asus Xonar D2X 7.1 Sound Card9650.001 9650.00
11 Logitech G9x Laser Mouse6205.001 6205.00
12 Razer Blackwidow Ulitimate Elite Mechanical Gaming Keyboard (RZ03-00380100-R3M1)6225.001 6225.00
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 235820.00    

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