Advice for High end Gaming cofig (only cabinet + internal parts) - budget 1-1.2 Lakhs

[almightyrohit]

1: What is your budget?
1-1.2 Lakhs (CPU only)

2: What is your existing hardware configuration (component name - component brand and model)
CPU - Core 2 Duo (2.3 GHz)
Motherboard - Asus xxx
GPU - nVidia 9800 GTX+
RAM - Kingston 2*2GB
Monitor - BenQ G2400 HD (not looking to replace)
SMPS - Cooler Master 450W

3: Which hardware will you be keeping (component name - component brand and model)
Monitor - Dell 2409

4: Which hardware component are you looking to buy (component name).
CPU -
Motherboard -
GPU -

5: Where will you buy this hardware? (Online/City/TE Dealer)
New Delhi
Open to online purchase

6: Would you consider buying a second hand hardware from the TE market
No

7: What is your intended use for this PC/hardware
Gaming, Gaming, Gaming

Q: Do you have any brand preference or dislike? Please name them and the reason for your preference/dislike.
Asus, Corsair, nVidia cards (if ATI offers significant performance upgrade at the same price then I may consider. I really like PhysX effect in games like Mafia II etc. so would prefer an nVidia card.)

Q: If you will be playing games then which type of games will you be playing?
Battlefield 3, Skyrim, Heroes VI, COD: MW3

Q: What is your preferred monitor resolution for gaming and normal usage
Gaming - 1920*1080
Desktop - 1920*1080

Q: Are you looking to overclock?
Yes

Q: Which operating system do you intend to use with this configuration?
Windows 7 64 bit





May add a sound card later, preferably Asus Xonax STX (7500). Please note that the prices are only indicative and I may decide to delay my purchase by another month (max) in case the dollar prices (and flood issues in South Asia) influence the prices too much. Please let me know what can I change in my system to make it better. For me looks are very important so the best Chasis (Thermaltake Level 10 GT or Corsair Obsidian 800D). Also please let me know whether my choice for graphic card is right or not (several reviews on guru3d, anandtech and overclockers have indicated that 2*560 TI performs better than a single 580).

TIA

[clmlbx]

Oftopic:: Ok you want whole system excluding Monitor.. for a moment I thought you just want Processor for 1-1.2L.

[almightyrohit]

LOL.. no dude

Whole system excluding monitor (BenQ 24") & UPS (Numeric 1KVA) & KB (MS Sidewinder X4) & Mouse (Logitech MX518)

[Extreme Gamer]

2nd config. Get a Maximus IV Extreme-Z mobo. Get an H100 cooler from corsair. Get OCZ vertex 3 SSD and change the case to HAF-X.

[rajatGod512]

Intel Core i5 2500k @11.2k
Corsair Hydro H80 @6k
Asus P8Z68-V PRO Motherboard @ 14k
Gskill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL @3.65k
Corsair Obsidian Series 800D @ 16.5k
Corsair AX 850 @10.3k
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB @6k
Corsair Force Series 120 GB @12.5k
2*MSI R6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC @32k
Total = approx 1.12 lakhs

8 GB RAM is more than enough for any rig for now ... almost all games use max. upto 4 gigs(and those games are very few). I too like the obsidian and i would recommend it to anyone and i have changed PSU to AX850 which is a fully modular PSU and 2xhd6950 is more than enough for any game at 1080p (dont quite know about battlefield3 ultra settings) to run on atleast 60 fps.

[Ishu Gupta]

I have seen BF3 using around 6+ GB. And RAM is very cheap. 16GB just sounds cool.

[Extreme Gamer]

16GB reduces OC potential Ishu.

[d6bmg]

^^ How? Is there any revarse relation between OC'ing a processor & amount of RAM?

@OP:

I may decide to delay my purchase by another month (max)

If you can, you will get better VFM for every product you buy.

ASUS P8Z68-V PRO Rs. 11,200.00

old price. Presently it resides at 13K

[Extreme Gamer]

more stress on the IMC. This means it needs more voltage on the IMC to get RAM to their rated speeds, and/or looser timings.

It also means more power through the mobo to the RAM, and slightly lesser to the CPU, which may cause the CPU to need more volts to reach same clocks.



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Change CPU in rajat's setup to 2600k, place HX-850 instead of AX-850, and switch the H80 for H100. Perfect for the OP.

[d6bmg]

Thanks for the explanation, didn't have any idea about that. But the like which you have posted from tom's hardware is invalid. :/

[Extreme Gamer]

Typo... corrected. TY.

[dashing.sujay]

more stress on the IMC. This means it needs more voltage on the IMC to get RAM to their rated speeds, and/or looser timings.

It also means more power through the mobo to the RAM, and slightly lesser to the CPU, which may cause the CPU to need more volts to reach same clocks.

But if RAM requires more power, why can't mobo supply required amount of power without compromising on CPU supply?
If I suppose what you quoted, then it would mean that a mobo is capable of supplying R amount of power(which is constant by your logic), divided into X no of components, and X[p] be the amount/power/measure of component. Now if I increase p, the respective power supplied to the component would decrease gradually. But again my this point contradicts comparing 2GB and 4GB mem, then why this case in 16GB?

[Ishu Gupta]

But if RAM requires more power, why can't mobo supply required amount of power without compromising on CPU supply?
If I suppose what you quoted, then it would mean that a mobo is capable of supplying R amount of power(which is constant by your logic), divided into X no of components, and X[p] be the amount/power/measure of component. Now if I increase p, the respective power supplied to the component would decrease gradually. But again my this point contradicts comparing 2GB and 4GB mem, then why this case in 16GB?

No of DIMMS, not amt of RAM. 8GB modules not available in India?

[Extreme Gamer]

not atm. I dont know 8GB sticks past fully buffered server RAM. any models you know?

There is more load on the involved circuits. The cleanliness of the signal is also affected.

[rajatGod512]

@Extreme Gamer
Why AX 850 instead of HX 850

[Extreme Gamer]

lol its the other way round rajat. the HX850 is awesome. while the AX models are better, the HX is good enough. the price decrease can be used to get H100 and 2600k. his limit is 120k

if the AX still fits, definitely go for it

[rajatGod512]

LOL !!!! I got it all wrong

[masach315]

@almighty rohit. Get the new storm trooper (if it's your taste) than level10gt. You can use the money you save for a nice water cooling kit.

[Sarath]

6: Would you consider buying a second hand hardware from the TE market
No


TIA

TE market?

[Ishu Gupta]

TE market?

Template copied from TechEnclave.

[d6bmg]

Template copied from TechEnclave.

nvm, I think at first he was trying to post there, and then he copy/pasted it from there.

[dashing.sujay]

But if RAM requires more power, why can't mobo supply required amount of power without compromising on CPU supply?
If I suppose what you quoted, then it would mean that a mobo is capable of supplying R amount of power(which is constant by your logic), divided into X no of components, and X[p] be the amount/power/measure of component. Now if I increase p, the respective power supplied to the component would decrease gradually. But again my this point contradicts comparing 2GB and 4GB mem, then why this case in 16GB?

Then also question remains, why does the power division thing ?

[Sarath]

"It also means more power through the mobo to the RAM, and slightly lesser to the CPU, which may cause the CPU to need more volts to reach same clocks."

That was very useful. But two RAM sticks are fine right?

[Extreme Gamer]

Yes.

Sujau, with 4 sticks the power draw from the atx pin and the CPU pin increases.

[dashing.sujay]

Sujau

Its Sujay

Its obvious that 4 sticks will draw more power, but my question is why power supply to CPU is compromised in this case? I guess. mobo is not made to supply limited power supply.

[mithun_mrg]

BTW op can choose gskill sniper which runs at 1.25V

[dashing.sujay]

^^IIRC ripjaws have more ocn capability than sniper.

[mithun_mrg]

^^If i am correct the oc'ing limitations are due to the fact how SB platform oc memory not the ram itself

[Extreme Gamer]

Its Sujay

Its obvious that 4 sticks will draw more power, but my question is why power supply to CPU is compromised in this case? I guess. mobo is not made to supply limited power supply.

I was using ipod :damn: sorry.

There is a limit to the amount of power that can be drawn from ATX and CPU power connectors without frying the mobo.

Other reason already stated, that there is more stress on IMC.

[dashing.sujay]

Thnx for explaining.