Assembling new pc for my bro...Help!!

[abhidev]

I asked my bro to fill up the questionnaire...

1. What is the purpose of the computer? (Note: If you are planning to say multimedia, you will have to be more specific as all types of systems are capable of doing that)
A: Daily work & Gaming

2. Are you open to alternate ideas/products giving similar better performance but offering more VFM/ sellers? If not- why?
A:Would prefer Intel

3. What is your MAX budget?
A:under 50k

4. Planning to overclock?
A: not really but maybe in future

5. Which OS are you planning to use?
A: Windows XP/7

6. How much hard drive space is needed?
A: 1 TB or more

7. What resolution will the screen run at & whats the size of the screen you want? If you already want have one and want to use it, mention its resolution and size.
A: 21” screen

8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)
A:5

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
A: Will be done by me

10. When are you planning to buy the system?
A: in 1 month

11. Are you one of the types looking out for "future proof" configurations?
A: yes

12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? If yes, do mention.
A:BD player

13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?
A: only from Mumbai

14. Mention any other points if deemed necessary
A:

[Cilus]

AMD Phenom II 955 @ 5.4K
Asus M5A88-M (AM3+, USB 3.0, SATA 3, 140W CPU support) @ 5.3K
Corsair XMS3 1600 MHz 4GB X 1 @ 1.5K
Seagate 1 TB 7200.12 SATA @ 2.7K
Acer S226HQ 21.5" @ 6.4K
Corsair CX 500 V2 80+ @ 3K
MSI HD 6770 1 GB @ 6.3K
NZXT Gamma @ 2K
Logitech MK100 Keyboard & Mouse @ 0.5K
LG 22X SATA DVD R/W @ 0.85K
Intex 800VA UPS @ 1.4K

Total : 35.35K

For Intel get the following Items:

Intel Core i5 2400 @ 9K
Corsair Value Series 1333 MHz 4GB X1 DDR3 @ 1.2K
Acer P206HQ 20" @ 5.1K

[sumonpathak]

i think you can squeeze in a 900 series mobo in that...contact vedant kolkata for pricing

Asus M5A97 Auto O.C. Tuning

[Cilus]

Suman, the Asus M5A series, although based on older 7XX/8XX chipset they have almost full compatibility with the Bulldozer module and supports all the features like the new Turbo Boost, high voltage handling etc.

The reason is unlike other companies like MSI, Gigabyte who have updated their existing mid-range 880, 870 or 7XX series boards through BIOS to support Bulldozer, Asus designed the middle range boards based on 880/870 chipset from the ground level to support Bulldozer. They will even support 1866 MHz memory speed, the default memory controller speed of Bulldozer module.

But as you said, if any 970 based boards are available within 6K then they will be the best buy. Any news about them in Kolkata?

[sumonpathak]

vedant had a few on display...have to contact them on pricing

[abhidev]

Hey is it advisable to wait for Ivybridge.....

[Jaskanwar Singh]

my suggestion -


that mobo is bulldozer ready. upgrade to a bulldozer processor later.

[d6bmg]

Hey is it advisable to wait for Ivybridge.....

Obviously yes, if you can.

[Tech_Wiz]

When it is actually coming? I thought it was due in Q1 2012 and thats too much of a wait

[abhidev]

yea what the release date for Ivy Bridge??? heard it would be Q4 2011. Well guys please suggest only Intel config, my bro wouldn't prefer AMD.

[Jaskanwar Singh]

ivy bridge is long wait. not recommended.

if you need intel -

[abhidev]

Hey guys...for now you can cut out monitor,keyboard,mouse,ups out from the budget....also please suggest a better vfm config(no i3) which is future proof too...

One more question...are there mobo's which will be compatible with Ivybridge processors?

[d6bmg]

One more question...are there mobo's which will be compatible with Ivybridge processors?

Ivy bride is of long wait. Intel change their chipset almost every-time. So, its better not to predict anything about those processors.

[Jaskanwar Singh]

[amitabhsaha]

If you are going to overclock then go for i5 2500K and P67 or Z68 based mobo.

[abhidev]

yea...also Z68 mobos would make sense right?

@Jaskanwar: the mobo u hv mentioned...does it support Xfire? also the RAM...is it a good performer(4gb in just 1.k)...? Also please suggest Corsair RAMs ?

[Cilus]

No that does not support Crossfire, infact none of the H61 chipset based mobo have two PCI-E X16 slots for Multi-GPU setup. Only a very few H67 based board have two X16 slots and can run Crossfire @ X16-X4 mode which is not a recommended setting.
For proper Multi-GPU support in X8-X8 mode, you need to opt for either a P67 or Z68 based motherboard. The cheapest one with X8 Multi-GPU (SLI and Crossfire) is MSI Z68A-GD55 @ 9.6K.

[Piyush]

@abhidev
wait for Ivy-->not a good idea

better to go for Jassy's i5 2500 recommendation if your brother is going for Intel way

[Jaskanwar Singh]

yea...also Z68 mobos would make sense right?

@Jaskanwar: the mobo u hv mentioned...does it support Xfire? also the RAM...is it a good performer(4gb in just 1.k)...? Also please suggest Corsair RAMs ?

if you will oc a k processor or use lucid virtu or ssd caching or cfx or sli.

and g.skill rams are excellent. dont worry.

[abhidev]

how abt Asus P8Z68-V Pro LGA 1155...is it better than MSI?

[Jaskanwar Singh]

^nice board with features like bluetooth etc.

msi one is vfm.

and there is not a significant performance difference between boards using same chipset. oc vise both msi and asus one is good. just see which features you need.

[abhidev]

guys updated the thread description...also check the max budget has increased to under 50k

My brother was considering Alienware x51 desktops....i suggested him to assemble one because in 50k we can get better components. Following is the config for total of 51k. Is it worth?

Intel Core i5-2500k Quad Core CPU Technical Specifications:
- Hi-C CAP for GPU provides more precise voltage.
- All Solid CAPs have longer lifespan.
Processor Speed: 3.3GHz
PhysX & 3D Vision Surround GHz
Speed in Turbo Mode up to 3.7 technology
- Support PhysX technology effects for realist physics effect.
Cache: 6MB (L3)
- Support 3D Vision Surround up to 1100MHz
Built in High Definition Graphics technology in SLI mode to provide 3
monitor
Cores: 4 output simultaneously and real 3D image experience. (Need
Number with 3D monitor and 3D glass.)
to work of Threads: 4
Manufacturing Process: 32nm
CPU Socket: LGA 1155
Video Output Function
8gb 95 Watt x 2
TDP:
Dual-link DVI
Intel Advanced Vector Extensions (AVX)
Mini HDMI x 1
MotherboardVideo
Intel Quick Sync
VGA(Optional, via DVI to D-Sub adapptor)
Intel AES-NI
HDMI(Optional, via Mini HDMI to HDMI dongle)
Intel Virtualization Technology

21" LED Monitor

Bundle MSI developed driver and utilities
MSI Live Update Series(Live Graphics Card BIOS & Live Graphics
Card Driver)
Automatically online download & update Graphics Card BIOS &
Drivers, reduce the risk of getting the wrong files, and never have the
trouble on web site searching.
MSI Graphics Card Driver
MSI Dual Core Center
MSI Live
including all real time life information you need, such as Live MSI
Product News, Live Daily Information, Live Personal Schedule
Manager, Live Search and more.
Adobe Acrobat Reader
Microsoft® DirectX
Norton Internet Security™ 2008 60 days Trial
-Blocks online identity theft by phishing Web sites
-Detects and eliminates spyware
-Removes viruses and Internet worms automatically
-Protects against hackers

Western Digital AV-GP WD20EVDS (1TBX2)-Green

DVDR/W

Cabinet

Wireless CardWireless 1502 (802.11gn) WLAN Card

Speaker(2.1)

[sam]

remove the technical specs. we already know it or can easily google it. just give the components name.

and avoid WD Green. get WD Black. Green have high failure rate and carries 2yr warranty. Black carries 5yr warranty. and the list is most likely mixed up. GPU, motherboard, ram, PSU are missing from the sheet or those are already decided?

[abhidev]

guys please revise your config suggestions. Thanx in advance.

[d6bmg]

^ Do you have any preference(s)?

[abhidev]

^ Do you have any preference(s)?

The processor should be intel and gfx card should be amd...rest you guys can suggest which are better.

[d6bmg]

It is 60K rig. If you want 50K overclock-able rig, you will get Phenom II 1090T.

[abhidev]

hey guys...this is the config for mid range gaming pc suggested by tech2....



please let me know if this requires any changes/additions. thanks

[Sainatarajan]

No Need of I5 3570K with an H77 motherboard .
No need of an SSD . Dont go with Cooler Master PSU . Also 5K Speaker is not needed .

BTW , What is your Budget . For 70K you can build a Kickass PC with I5 2500K and a GTX 670 !!!

AMD Phenom X4 970 @ 7.6K
ASUS M5A97 @ 5.9K
GSKILL RipJAWSx 2x4 GB DDR3 @ 3K
WD 500 GB HDD @ 4K
ASUS DVD ROM @ 1K
Seasonic S12 520W @ 3.7K
Cooler Master RC430 @ 3K
Logitech Combo + BXR1221 Speaker + Numeric 600
VA UPS = 3K
BENQ 22'' HD @ 7.5K
HIS HD 7850 @ 15.3K
TOTAL @ 54K .

You can also go for I5 2400 + DH67CL B3 . But you cant OC.

[dashing.sujay]

Components are highly imbalanced. 7770 with i5-3570k, seriously ?

Instead opt for i3 + 7850. Bang for buck. And if you're thinking that i3 will bottleneck, then it won't.