Gaming pc for 45k....

[monsursound]

Guys i am building a PC with a budget of 45k.
The components that i have selected are....

AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE 3.20 Ghz
2X2 GB Gskill Ripjaws
500 GB WD cavair Blue
GTX 560/GTX 460/HD 6850???
Benq V2210 21.5 inc full hd
Cooler Master Elite 430

*Guys, please suggest me a good Mother board and a PSU.
*What graphics card should i take out of the three(which gets me the best bang for the buck)/or should i wait for HD 6950 price to drop???
*Do i need a cooling kit for this configuration???
*Also if you have any other recommendations you are welcome(but i have a very tight budget,may be i can stretch it by 1-2k).

[Tech_Wiz]

If You could have filled the Template it would be better but anyways..

1. 955 BE is No probs but if you can wait a month then BD will be out.
2. Ram is Fine
3. Get 1 TB Price difference is too less to ignore
4. Out of those I say HD6850
5. Monitor is OK afaik
6. Case is OK

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA 880G - USB 3 - 4.8K
HD6850 is sufficient for HD gaming.
If you plan to Overclock then yes else NOT.

Now My Recommended Config:

Intel Core i5 2400- 9300
Intel DH67VR - 4500
Gskill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL-1600
MSI R6850 Twin Frozr - 9800
HDD Seagate 500GB -1900
LG 22X SATA DVD- 900
Corsair GS600 - 4000
CM Elite 430 - 2500
Benq G2220HD - 7000

Total 41500

800 VA Ups to get it to 45K and ready to rumble

[Tenida]

Here's my suggestion-
Intel Core i5 2500-9.8K
Intel DH67BL-5.3K
Gskill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL-1.6K
MSI R6850 Cyclone 1GD5 Power Edition-9.35K
Corsair GS600-3.8K
Seagate 500GB 7200 RPM-1.7K
CM elite 430-2.4K
BenQ G2220HD-7K
Total-40.95K

[MegaMind]

Better to go for GTX 560ti HAWK - 14K..

[d6bmg]

Better to go for GTX 560ti HAWK - 14K..

+1 for it regarding quality.

[MegaMind]

Here's my suggestion,


@OP, If the price is high get HD6870 - 11.5K, to reduce the total to 44.1K

[Tenida]

+1 for it regarding quality.

Higher price doesn't always means good quality.MSI R6850 Cyclone Power Edition has great build quality you can say best HD6850 card out there.

Here's my suggestion,


@OP, If the price is high get HD6870 - 11.5K, to reduce the total to 44.1K

Intel Core i5 2500 will be better with Gtx 560Ti.

[MegaMind]

Intel Core i5 2500 will be better with Gtx 560Ti.

i5 2500 is jus 100MHz faster than 2400.. I dont think its worth 600 or 800 bucks over the i5 2400..

[Tenida]

Yes 2400 is good enough.@OP Look at this for further info.

[Ayuclack]

If You are not over clocking then go for 2400 else 2500k is best....Go for Tenida Config..

[Tenida]

@Megamind look a this config
I think as Smcinternational is giving big discount on HD6950TFIII so its best bet go with that GFX.

Intel Core i5 2400-9.3K
MSI H67MA-E35-4.6K
2XCorsair value 2GB DDR3 1333MHz-1.5K
MSI R6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC-15.3K
Corsair Gs 600-3.7K
Seagate 500GB 7200Rpm-1.7K
Cm elite 430-2.4K
BenQ G2220HD-7K
Total-45.5K

[a2mn2002]

What is the performance diff between MSI 6850 cyclone PE vs Ati 6870 ?

[MegaMind]

What is the performance diff between MSI 6850 cyclone PE vs Ati 6870 ?

6850 vs 6870

[monsursound]

I saw in a graphics card round up that GTX 560(not Ti) is great value for money card and that it performs almost at par with 6950,and with extreme physx and tessellation(which are important for up coming games) thrown in it managed to outperform HD 6950.

[Cilus]

You are wrong buddy, the 560 Non Ti performs just slightly higher than HD 6870. Even its bigger brother 560 Ti is little short from HD 6950. Also GTX 560 has hughe power consumption compared to the performance it offers.

[Jaskanwar Singh]

I saw in a graphics card round up that GTX 560(not Ti) is great value for money card and that it performs almost at par with 6950,and with extreme physx and tessellation(which are important for up coming games) thrown in it managed to outperform HD 6950.

you read this in chip mag?

[a2mn2002]

when 560 ti / 6950 1GB get price drop ?

[Tenida]

When hd7000 or nvidia gtx 600 series will be launched

[Skud]

They are already at 12-13k level. Next drop will be only after the launch of next gen cards. As Kepler would be delayed compared to HD7000, expect to see the drop in nVIDIA cards first.

[monsursound]

you read this in chip mag?

@jaskanwar
yes i read that in chip mag july 2011.


Ok,thanks guys for your replies,But you will have to help me once more.For a gaming machine it is advisable not to spend too much money on processor(those on a budget) ,instead invest the saved money on a graphics and a monitor for a better eye candy.So ,as my budget was not big i had to look for processor in the range of 5-6k.So intel i3 and phenom II X4s were my only options.I previously chose phenom II X4 955 BE blindly because of 4 cores.But i searched and found out that the i3 beats the phenom most of the times.Also very few titles like crysis,BFBC ..etc uses 4 cores.So now i am really in a fix whether i should pick i3 or phenom II X4.because i cant ignore the fact that future games may be optimized to use all the 4 cores and Intel i5 is really out of my budget.

[Cilus]

Ya, you are sure about the gaming performance...i3 2100 performs better than 955 in most of the cases. But still Phenom II X4 955 is a vaiable option because:-

1. In multi-threaded applications, Phenom II X4 955 performs better than i3 2100 because of its 4 Physical cores compared to the 4 logical cores of i3 2100.

2. Since Phenom II X4 955 is a Black Edition processor, it can be overclocked very easily to gain some more performance, both in gaming and applications, a feature missing in i3 2100. Even with the stock cooler, 955 can reach upto 3.6 GHz and euqal the gaming performance

3. Now you have mentioned that in games like crysis2, Battle Field Bad Company etc. 955 performs better. The reason being is all the current latest games are getting highly multi-core optimized and 955 gets an advantage because of its 4 cores. Expect all the upcoming games to be highly optimized for multi-core processors and Phenom II X4 has a slight benefit over i3 2100 over there.

[d6bmg]

They are already at 12-13k level. Next drop will be only after the launch of next gen cards. As Kepler would be delayed compared to HD7000, expect to see the drop in nVIDIA cards first.

I think that delay is a bit intentional.

[Jaskanwar Singh]

you read this in chip mag?

@jaskanwar
yes i read that in chip mag july 2011.

arrey those idiots dont know even the simple fact that amd cards are not made to render physx code. they use physx as a test. dont know why. maybe they are biased

now you saw conclusion. but if you go through fps part there is a different story. lets make this transparent


now you need to understand the fact that amd has designed the tessalator in their HD69** series keeping in mind normal tessellation.
you can read about this at anandtech article when 69** were launched.
but yeah nvidia needs to be given credit for their work on tessellation part (polymorph engines in fermi)

now 560 is more or less a 6870.

Now see this -

<30 FPS
very limited gameplay

30-40 FPS
average yet very playable

40-60 FPS
good gameplay

>60 FPS
best possible gameplay

So if a graphics card barely manages less than 30 FPS, then the game is not very playable, we want to avoid that at all cost.
With 30 FPS up-to roughly 40 FPS you'll be very able to play the game with perhaps a tiny stutter at certain graphically intensive parts. Overall a very enjoyable experience. Match the best possible resolution to this result and you'll have the best possible rendering quality versus resolution, hey you want both of them to be as high as possible.
When a graphics card is doing 60 FPS on average or higher then you can rest assured that the game will likely play extremely smoothly at every point in the game, turn on every possible in-game IQ setting.
Over 100 FPS? You either have a MONSTER graphics card or a very old game.

MSI R6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition OC review

you will see that extreme tessellation renders fps that are just average. normal tessellation does the job.