Help with PC Config. under 1 lakh

[CHALLENGER]

Hi I have allready decided what i want but if any1 knows better option for same price then please help b4 my final purchase....

1] Monitor :- 24" BenQ LCD Monitor G2420HD

2] Cabinet :- Thermaltake Element T__ VK90001N2Z

3] MotherBoard :- MSI X-Power Big Bang ( Intel x58 chipset )

4] Processor :- Intel Core i7 930 original

5] PowerSupply :- Corsair CMPSU 650TX

6] Ram :- Corsair TR3X2G-1600 XMS3 C9 6GB Kit

7] HDD :- Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB ( 2 units )

8] GFX Card :- MSI N470GTX Twin Frozr II or any other brand or ATI 5870

9] Mouse :- Microsoft Intelli 3.0

10] Keyboard :- Not Yet Fix [I want keyboard with backlight but not more then 2500rs.]

11] Headphones :- Creative 400

12] UPS :- APC Back - UPS BR 1100Y-IN

Plez help soon...Thanks.

[Jaskanwar Singh]

it must be 100k and not 1000k dude....k means 1000.
anyways whats the use of the config!!

[CHALLENGER]

oops sorry ..ya ur right its 100k

Want a good pc for gaming, 2d/3d applications like maya,max,after effects,fusion,photoshop etc..

[Jaskanwar Singh]

do you want to buy the rig early or you can wait till next year?..because with such a large budget and new processors coming up next year you will get a better deal..whats your current config?

[CHALLENGER]

right now my conf. was too bad

intal p4 3ghz processor, 915gav mb, nvidia 8600gt, 2gb ram

[jayantr7]

Jaskanwar is correct......Ur budget is high or good i mean and if you will wait fr some time then u can get a better option...

[CHALLENGER]

I personally feels that waiting is not a good option specially in technology coz it changes day by day so if i wait 1 year then may be that time some1 going to ask me for more wating for better deal. Hope u understand ...& i specially want good pc for my study so wating is not possible at least for now.

Really sorry i know that u wants me to buy good products but really i don;t have other choice right now. may be i will update my pc later.

[Sam]

if OP gets a fast PC now. what difference will it make? will future processors support some new techs that current processors won't? also waiting means waiting. no end to it. you may wait a month or 2. let Intel cut the price of their processors & than get yourself a i7 950 (current processor isn't a bad option by any angle).

also the Nvidia has lower the price of GTX470. it should be available for ~16k soon. so you maybe lucky there.

but i'll suggest change your config:

1. don't buy that board. way too costly & availability issue.
2. get a HX750W or something modular from Corsair. may look for their Gold series i.e. A.
3. for HDD, get a WD 500Gb Black. & 2X1Tb Blue/Green. this will be better.
4. for graphics card, your choice. as you mentioned gaming. so getting a pro card will bring your gaming to a FullStop on this PC.
5. get yourself the Corsair H70 water cooler (check the name. i may have spell it wrong). a water cooler will keep your processor cool & also will reduce the number of fans. still some good cooling for the GPU needed.

[CHALLENGER]

but x-power big bang reviews r good as well its having usb 3.0 & sata 6gb ports as well it comes with nice accessories & if no xpower then which board i prefer ?

I am really confuse in gfx card 470 or 5870. I heard that 5870 is good for gaming but nvidia physics x technology was good for 3d applications so plez help me in this.

may i go for benq monitor or dell is better option ?

Any good keyboard with backlight under 2500rs ?

Thanks every1 for help & reply.

[Jaskanwar Singh]

Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2GHz B.E. @ 13.9k
MSI 890FXA-GD70 @10.8k
Gskill Ripjaws 1600MHz 4GB DDR3 Kit @ 6.2k
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB * 2 @ 9k
Corsair HX650W @ 7.3k
CM Haf 922 @ 6.5k
Numeric 1KVA @ 4.2k
Dell UltraSharp U2311H @ 15k

Total - 72.9k

now spend the rest on a professional graphics card. somebody please suggest that one.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by CHALLENGER

but x-power big bang reviews r good as well its having usb 3.0 & sata 6gb ports as well it comes with nice accessories & if no xpower then which board i prefer ?

get MSI X58 Pro & add some Sata 6Gbps & USB 3.0 add-on card next year.

Originally Posted by CHALLENGER

I am really confuse in gfx card 470 or 5870. I heard that 5870 is good for gaming but nvidia physics x technology was good for 3d applications so plez help me in this.

ask asigh or mavihs who knows about 3d apps in details.

Originally Posted by CHALLENGER

may i go for benq monitor or dell is better option ?

Any good keyboard with backlight under 2500rs ?

no idea in this section. i totally blank here.

Originally Posted by Jaskanwar Singh

Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2GHz B.E. @ 13.9k
MSI 890FXA-GD70 @10.8k
Gskill Ripjaws 1600MHz 4GB DDR3 Kit @ 6.2k
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB * 2 @ 9k
Corsair HX650W @ 7.3k
CM Haf 922 @ 6.5k
Numeric 1KVA @ 4.2k
Dell UltraSharp U2311H @ 15k

Total - 72.9k

now spend the rest on a professional graphics card. somebody please suggest that one.

i was waiting for Jas to come up with a AMD config. well no need for that board. a 890GX board will do well. rest of the money in a cooler. & so OP will end with a 4Ghz 6-core beast that will beat i7 930 all over the park (price still same for mobo+proccy combo).

and if he sacrifices his money on a pro card, he'll have to forget gaming too. remember that.

Its really hard when someone comes up with a PC for animation/3d apps as well as gaming. a pro card can't be used for gaming.

[CHALLENGER]

sorry but no to amd. Intel is my personal choice.

want 6gb ram good for my 3d applications as well tripal channel is good i think.

hdd & psu same.

I all ready check this case but i am getting element T for 4.5k & I don't found any extra feature in CM Haf 922 for extra 2k. Element T is also having top 200mm, side 230mm & front 200mm fan so why i prefer CM Haf 922 ? any suggestion ?

I just want ups for saving my work means 5/10 min backup was more then enough. I will check ur suggested UPS as i don't know anything about it.

no way i am going for that monitor. 24" BenQ LCD Monitor G2420HD is for 11300rs & having good features then Dell UltraSharp U2311H. Dell UltraSharp U2311H is having 8ms response time, no hdmi port & price 15k as u mention why i should go for this model ? any suggesion ?

[rajan1311]

^The ultra sharp is an IPS panel bro, much better image quality.

[funkysourav]

for value cabinets with high airflow and build quality,
you might wanna look at Antec 300 series
really best build quality and airflow for its price

about the monitor
dell ultrasharp is an ips panel monitor
which is specifically built for professional uses, due to its 178/178 visibility over conventional tn panels' 160/170
zero color distortion(which is not possible in conventional TN panels)
but only one con= slow response time of 8ms over conventional TN panel's 5ms
but since you will be using it primarily for professional animation
you wont notice any difference
the only (barely)noticeable difference would be in fast paced games

about the GPU
you should get GTX 470 over HD5870
GTX 470 is a fairly balanced card for both some animation and gaming
i have heard people complaining about low rendering quality while
using ati gaming cards for animation

about cpu
i would suggest you go for Intel I7 930 and compatible motherboard
but dont overspend unnecessarily on mobo

about hdd
you'd do better avoiding western digital ones cause they seem to be failing very other day
also their after sales is pitiable
get 2xseagate 1Tb ones insted
but the best choice to store your important renderings would be the stable like rock
Hitachi 1Tb HDDs(but a little hard to find)

[CHALLENGER]

IPS Panel ? whats that ? plez explain so i will check that too..Thanks for help.

[funkysourav]

^^^
google it out
you'll find a plethora of articles in overclock.net explaining IPS panel technology

[CHALLENGER]

Wow funkysourav help really looks good for me. I will surly going check that.

@Jaskanwar Singh & @Sam.Shab...I just check this 2 mobos & i really confuse why u suggest me this mobos ? means max supported memmory was 16gb, no tripal channel support, no sli, 890GXM-G65
is not having sata 2 ports, only 10.1 direct x support ????????????? check the specs.

MSI 890FXA-GD70 & 890GXM-G65

[rajan1311]

to be fair, even I am not very sure WHY IPS plans look better, when googled, I get a lot of Greek and Latin, so if you understand it, please do explain it. For now, take it as a rule - Better image quality , higher response time and more $$$.

[CHALLENGER]

nope no higher response time my selected 24" BenQ LCD Monitor G2420HD gives 5ms & 2ms gray to gray response time & Dell UltraSharp U2311H is giveing 8ms gray to gray so i think benq was good as well colours r same on both lcds 16.7 million. May be ips is good but 3.5k more just for that ??? as well Dell UltraSharp U2311H is not having hdmi port which is bcoming famous day by day

I want future proof pc at least for 3/4 years don't want to change it after 1 year

about mobo for me xpower is bit costly but looks future proof but i will surely going to check other cheaper models..if u have any suggestion help me.

About gfx card .... Nvidia 470 fix but which brand ? If i purchase MSI mobo may i go 4 Msi brand or xfx is good ? or any other ?

now looking for good keyboard with backlight under 2.5k...any suggestions r welcome.

Thanks every1 for great help n advice.

[Empirial]

Hey try this The Dell Online Store: Build Your System

[CHALLENGER]

Thank Empirial for good link i will surlery going to check that.

[Cool Buddy]

Both panels (benQ & Dell ultrasharp) are vastly different. IPS Panel has much better colour reproductions than a TN panel. and both of them do not display 16.7 million colours. Manufacturers of Tn panels use a technology called dithering to improve the colours on the panel. But this doesn't really help and is actually a hoax. The colours displayed are actually 262144.

Now if you see that an IPS panel or an 8 bit panel has to produce many more shades between the gray to gray as compared to a TN panel or 6 bit panel, you will understand why the response time is higher. With such a high budget, it would really be a poor decision to buy a TN Panel especially when you are also involved in professional work. In fact, since you are into max, maya & photoshop we would have expected you to know the difference between TN & IPS, instead you don't understand it even after reading articles on the Internet.

And what with HDMI ports, they are becoming popular, but DVI is not going anywhere and you can always use DVI to HDMI converter since monitors do not have speakers (like televisions) anyways.

And I was definitely shocked by the title . I thought this was another of those hoax threads where a person had claimed to buy a PC for 623k but never posted pics even after repeated requests from the users. I'm not complaining about the title, just a bit more care

[CHALLENGER]

@Cool Buddy :- good informative post buddy...really thank for that as i also research more i really like Dell UltraSharp U2311H & i am really sorry that i wrongly judge this monitor. After this i am going to check more Dell products carefully....Thanks to Jaskanwar for suggesting & other to helping me out that why this monitir is good.

ya & about tital its just a mistake...really sorry 4 that.

[Cool Buddy]

See here: TFT LCD - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Go to the third para under Twisted Nematic (TN) heading. You will know what dithering is. And I will tell you, it doesn't really work. I have seen some colourful wallpapers on my monitor where stripes are clearly visible when the shades should have been smooth. That's because the TN panel is unable to produce all the shades required to be displayed in the picture. I hope you understand what I mean even though I'm a bit weak with technical terminology.
Now, I'm not saying that TN panels are bad. It has been a revolutionary innovation which brought the prices of LCD panels within the reach of everyone and today CRTs are almost out. This has been good because LCD consumes much less power and saves space (which is a concern if you have 20 computers in an office).
But if you have that kind of a budget, it really makes no sense to settle for a TN Panel.

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And yes, it's not that only Dell has IPS panels. There are some from samsung and some others also. But dell is better

[CHALLENGER]

ohh thats great. It really helps me a lot Cool Buddy. Thanks once again for nice helpfull informative post.

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Any1 knows good shops for buying pc parts @Laminton road ?

I know lynx & prime abgb....lynx looks good to me as prime abgb is having bit high prices & lack of availability of many products...so if any1 knows any more good shops for better price & service then plez suggest me....Thanks.

[Cool Buddy]

2 HDDs would give a good performance boost with or without RAID. It can be 2x1TB or 2x500GB according to your requirement. for a RAID configuration, better have the same HDD (model) paired.
Isn't dominator a low Latency RAM? how much does the 6GB kit cost? and what are the timings of 1600Mhz ones?

[asingh]

Just get a good OC board by MSI/Gigabyte. You are spending way to much on the MSI Big Bang. Also get the NH-D14 by Noctua. It is almost at par with WC kits -- might even beat the H70. For PSU a 750W is more than enough, even if you get the GTX480.

Will you multi-GPU.

Above same for Adtiya too..?

[CHALLENGER]

MSI xpower big bang is i think around 19k.

I really love this board even its price is high as its having good cooling system, great features & it comes with nice accessories but still iam searching for good mb with low price so that i will use my money on other parts.

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Which brand LED monitors r good ?

[adityamgk]

CHALLENGER i personally feel the Samsung PX2370 is a very good LED Monitor. It looks good and also performs well. Also samsung has got a very good service network. So I personally would take the samsung and advise u to take the same. Samsung PX2370 should cost u around 15000.

I also really loved the MSi big bang Xpower the first time i saw it. But iguess there are no PCI slots right?

[furious_gamer]

@OP

Get GTX480. I prefer green over red in terms of 3d applications.