Help with PC Config. under 1 lakh

[funkysourav]

@rajan
an intel 40gb ssd is worth 7k maybe
it will be good for use as os drive
but i have my reservations about suggesting an ssd, from a value point of view

it depends entirely on op to decide whether he needs an ssd or not!

@adityagmk
afaik the stock i7 HSFs are good enough for normal use and mild (upto 20%) overclocking

if you are planning to overclock well above 30-40% then get the corsair H50
but know this
at this point of time overclocking i7 930 processors above stock is pretty much overkill
if you aren't using any cpu intensive applications
because the power provided by i7 at stock is phenomenal
not many applications do need more

[CHALLENGER]

@adityamgk

as u r purchasing cooler master haf 932 go for cooler master air cooler { If u r not overclocker then don't buy bulcky & costly liqid coolers } as i am also not into overclocking i am going to buy from...

Cooler master N520 or Cooler master Hyper 212 Plus or Corsair A70

[rajan1311]

i dont see why you need value items when the budget is so high, also, why suggest a GTX 470? its one of the most fail and non VFM cards in the market....
btw, corsair H70 is out?

[CHALLENGER]

yes Corsair A70 is out & for $65 so approx 2.9k

[rajan1311]

was asking abt the H70 bro, water cooling

[CHALLENGER]

oops sorry hehe so many mistakes

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@rajan1311..help me in case as i am also planning to buy CM haf 922 which u have so how is the case ? is it carrying hdd & dvd drive properly from both side ? coz i saw some cases reviews where tool free installation is giving support to hdd or dvd drive from 1 side & other side was loose so if we move case hdd is moving from another side.

[rajan1311]

The HDDs remain perfectly fine, i cant imagine how it would move from side to side, the tool free installation is really good and easy to use. Overall, Love the case, good ventilation, you need to clean the front dust filter from time to time as when it gets dusty, it looks really ugly.
The case is pretty big, bigger than your CM 690,the thing is heavy, you cant move it around a lot, its not intended to. In my cabby, the front panel audio aint working, did not bother getting a replacement or repair.
Why dont you have a look at the CM Storm Sniper or Scout? I am just saying that as I am bored of mine, maybe we can swap cases when we get bored

[adityamgk]

wats the difference between cooler master haf 932 and the haf-x? and wat are the prices of both? Which is the better of them?

[CHALLENGER]

I like HAF x..go for haf x

[rajan1311]

Originally Posted by CHALLENGER

Chassis -> Full Tower - Cooler Master

haf 932 is i think amd based mobo [ Not Sure ] but i like HAF x..go for haf x

lol nothing like that...haha


HAF X is a new one, better for Water cooling apparently, hate the look...

[CHALLENGER]

@rajan1311..check video review of Thermaltake v9 black edition video review & u will understand that what i am talking about Its a relly bad case for hdd mounting which is also tool free

ABout case i have better idea juse send me urs 922 & u purchase new1 & i am going to purchase 40gb ssd drive form case saved money

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hee ya i am wrong about haf 932. It was my biggest mistake & as i check spec i remove my post but u r so fast rajan1311..u caught my faulty foolish post

so when u r sending me haf 922 ???

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HAF 932 AMD looks r really bad with that red colour yaak...HAF X is much better looks.

[rajan1311]

i can send u my HAF 922 only if you are in bangalore, its pretty heavy, so if i ship the cost will turn out to be same (or close to same)

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just saw the video of the thermaltake case, the HDD mounting is very different from HAF 922.

[mavihs]

@OP
i suggest not to buy from Lynx, they have a very bad rep of treating customers badly after selling the product!
Also which course are you doing in Animation & from where? & which semester are you in?
I also suggest going for the Dell Ultrasharp! btw there is no big advantage of having HDMI cable over DVI other than that it can transfer Audio as well!

Can you fill the below questionnaire so we can suggest you a good config!

1. What is the purpose of the computer? (Note: If you are planning to say multimedia, you will have to be more specific as all types of systems are capable of doing that)
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2. Are you open to alternate ideas/products giving similar better performance but offering more VFM/ sellers? If not- why?
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3. What is your MAX budget?
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4. Planning to overclock?
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5. Which OS are you planning to use?
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6. How much hard drive space is needed?
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7. What resolution will the screen run at & whats the size of the screen you want?
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8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)
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9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
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10. When are you planning to buy the system?
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11. Are you one of the types looking out for "future proof" configurations?
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12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? If yes, do mention.
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13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?
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14. Mention any other points if deemed necessary
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@Aditya
i suggest opening a new thread for you own config!

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1. What is the purpose of the computer? (Note: If you are planning to say multimedia, you will have to be more specific as all types of systems are capable of doing that)
A: Mainly Animation [ I m using maya,max,ps,ae,fusion etc.] but i am playing good grafix games too. [I love FPS, RTS n RPG games. Completed stalker all 3 part, witcher, COH etc.]

2. Are you open to alternate ideas/products giving similar better performance but offering more VFM/ sellers? If not- why?
A: yeh sure but no to amd & if u suggesting any other product plez specify that how that product is good for me & why its good then my selected product. Posting just another product names coz u just read some where is not a good idea. No offence but i really love the member who is suggesting products with some info as we r posting for our pc config. here coz we have less hardware knowledge.

3. What is your MAX budget?
A: Rs.1,10,000/-

4. Planning to overclock?
A: No

5. Which OS are you planning to use?
A: xp 32bit & window 7 64bit [ I love xp but for direct-x 11 i need window 7 ]

6. How much hard drive space is needed?
A: 2TB

7. What resolution will the screen run at & whats the size of the screen you want?
A: I don't know means I never use 24" monitor so not sure about resolution. Which looks good i am going to use that.

8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)
A: 4 [ I know the updates n latest parts but really don't know which is better n why. i.e I saw some coolers with sleev bearing fan & some with rifal bearing fan & as i check over net i find sleev is silent but i don't konw which is better ? ]

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
A: Yes, I done this b4. I think 5year b4 when i purchase my 1st pc & i am really happy with my 1st pc.

10. When are you planning to buy the system?
A: When i am going to satisfy with my pc config but soon.

11. Are you one of the types looking out for "future proof" configurations?
A: Yes...If autodesk launch Maya 2015 then at least i want the pc that going to run it nicely.

12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? If yes, do mention.
A: Amd, No to water cooling, No ssd for now.

13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?
A: India -> Maharashtra -> Mumbai [ Going to purchase from Lamington Road ] No buying from other states & If need i will do online shopping for cabinet only coz i am not sure about safty of the products during shipping.

14. Mention any other points if deemed necessary
A: Want 23/24" monitor. Give suggestion with some good explanation. If u have any review on product give the link i will going to check that for sure.

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My personal thinking.....Every product is having pros n cons. I saw many good n bad reviews on same product. I don't want to judge prodcts brand, services by members experience as its different form member to member, some having good experince with xfx, msi, evga but may be some not they loving asus, zotac, gigabyte as they have good expe. with this brands. I want brand which really giving quality products.

About vfm i am not thinkig that if x58 board coming with 10k then its a good vfm but what about its quality, durability, performance lots of things r there so i am not going over price if product quality is good & if its in my budjet then i will prefer that product.

[CHALLENGER]

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My Requirements....

Monitor = 23/24", protective screen which going to take care of my eyes as i am in animation distance between me & screen is very less. power saving as i am using my pc 24x7 [@ night i am doing downloading work & monitor is is sleep mode till morning ].

Really confus with 3 models all r around 15k
1] Dell U2311H 23" IPS [ IPS BUT23", 8ms g2g response [Don't know about typical Response], no HDMI port, Using higer Watt then LED ]
2] Dell G2410 24" LED [ No IPS, NO HDMI BUT less Watt then IPS, Good Response time, Good features n support ]
3] Samsung PX2370 23" LED [ No IPS, 23" BUT Having HDMI, Less watt then IPS, Good Response time, Good features n support ]


Motherboard = With good cooling & features. Futureproof.

Processor = Intel 930 [ Suggestions r welcome but no to AMD ]

Cooler = CM Hyper 212 Plus (RR-B10-212P-G1) [ No Overclocking ]

Cabinet = CM HAF 922 [ Suggestions r welcome ]

PSU = Corsair 750TX [ Suggestions r welcome ]

RAM = Corsair 6gb kit [ Slect model no plez. other Suggestions r welcome ]

GPU = MSI N470 Twin Frozer Design [ Need 4 3d Application & Some gaming ]

HDD = WD CB 1tb x 2

DVD Writer = Select model with SATA connection don't want IDE.

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[Jaskanwar Singh]

i suggest you AMD phenom II 1090t. it will benefit you more. read some reviews on Anandtech see how it thrashes 930 and some others in rendering and all.

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as for the graphics card get GTX460 in SLI. it will not only thrash GTX470 but even competes with HD5970.

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get Dell UltraSharp U2311H @ 15k. its IPS panel.

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dont waste money on low end coolers if you are not going to OC also.

[CHALLENGER]

@Jaskanwar Singh
Plez give me link where amd trashes Intel 930 ? as i check that site in many benchmarks i7 920 beats amd & in some 920 is closer to ur amd. i7 920 is a 2.66ghz & 930 is 2.8ghz.

Anandtech [ in 3dmax test i7 920 beat ur amd & in other 920 is closer to ur amd so i am sure 930 will perform much better as well check hardwarecanucks reviews & I personally love Intel. May be AMD is fast but after some time amd reduces its performance but Intel performance is stays same till end as well Intel processor is having much less drawbacks then AMD & I am purchasing Nvidia so Intel is better

ya i am thinking about that sli idea..Its really good but i don't know then i have to increase psu to more Watt & I have to purchase Full tower case & better cooling products as 2 cards going to make lots of heat & if the anser is yes then i think its exceeds my budget.

Ya i also want to purchase Ultrasharp U2311H IPS but is that going to give me lag in games ? I hate Lag.

My pc is on 24x7 & sometimes i continuosly playing which makes lots of heat so any suggestion on cooler but don't want high end & water cooling system.

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What exactly is SLI ? means if I use gtx460 1gb 256mb X 2 cards then..

1] I will get profit of both cards together or is another card is only going to work whenever it needs most ???
2] If i use 1gb 256mb 2 cards in sli mode then i will get 2gb 512mb support or 2nd card is giving less support as its in sli ???

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Is EVGA X58 FTW3 part Noumber: 132-GT-E768-TR Good ? Its for approx 12500rs. Only problem with EVGA is all its product having 2years warrenty where other giving 3/5 years warrenty.

[rajan1311]

^Dude, wait for another month, I7 950 will be dirt cheap, don't say "ur" AMD, he don work for them, he dont gain anything too. Just that with AMD Platform costs can be kept lower, giving you more money to spend on other things like a GTX 460 SLI setup instead of a single GTX 470.
SLI here means a dual card setup, 2 x GTX 460 768MB/1GB whatever fits your budget.

If you dont intend to OC, get the 1055T as the 1090T is a BE and your not using the obvious advantage it provides. EVGA FTW3 for 12.5k? you serious?where?

PS: the stuff you said about AMD being fast initially and performance fading away, that does not happen. Its a wrong impression you got.

[funkysourav]

I would say GTX 460 sli, and i7 950
there aren't good AM3 boards available for sli

[mavihs]

Originally Posted by CHALLENGER

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1. What is the purpose of the computer? (Note: If you are planning to say multimedia, you will have to be more specific as all types of systems are capable of doing that)
A: Mainly Animation [ I m using maya,max,ps,ae,fusion etc.] but i am playing good grafix games too. [I love FPS, RTS n RPG games. Completed stalker all 3 part, witcher, COH etc.]

2. Are you open to alternate ideas/products giving similar better performance but offering more VFM/ sellers? If not- why?
A: yeh sure but no to amd & if u suggesting any other product plez specify that how that product is good for me & why its good then my selected product. Posting just another product names coz u just read some where is not a good idea. No offence but i really love the member who is suggesting products with some info as we r posting for our pc config. here coz we have less hardware knowledge.

3. What is your MAX budget?
A: Rs.1,10,000/-

4. Planning to overclock?
A: No

5. Which OS are you planning to use?
A: xp 32bit & window 7 64bit [ I love xp but for direct-x 11 i need window 7 ]

6. How much hard drive space is needed?
A: 2TB

7. What resolution will the screen run at & whats the size of the screen you want?
A: I don't know means I never use 24" monitor so not sure about resolution. Which looks good i am going to use that.

8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)
A: 4 [ I know the updates n latest parts but really don't know which is better n why. i.e I saw some coolers with sleev bearing fan & some with rifal bearing fan & as i check over net i find sleev is silent but i don't konw which is better ? ]

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
A: Yes, I done this b4. I think 5year b4 when i purchase my 1st pc & i am really happy with my 1st pc.

10. When are you planning to buy the system?
A: When i am going to satisfy with my pc config but soon.

11. Are you one of the types looking out for "future proof" configurations?
A: Yes...If autodesk launch Maya 2015 then at least i want the pc that going to run it nicely.

12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? If yes, do mention.
A: Amd, No to water cooling, No ssd for now.

13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?
A: India -> Maharashtra -> Mumbai [ Going to purchase from Lamington Road ] No buying from other states & If need i will do online shopping for cabinet only coz i am not sure about safty of the products during shipping.

14. Mention any other points if deemed necessary
A: Want 23/24" monitor. Give suggestion with some good explanation. If u have any review on product give the link i will going to check that for sure.

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My personal thinking.....Every product is having pros n cons. I saw many good n bad reviews on same product. I don't want to judge prodcts brand, services by members experience as its different form member to member, some having good experince with xfx, msi, evga but may be some not they loving asus, zotac, gigabyte as they have good expe. with this brands. I want brand which really giving quality products.

About vfm i am not thinkig that if x58 board coming with 10k then its a good vfm but what about its quality, durability, performance lots of things r there so i am not going over price if product quality is good & if its in my budjet then i will prefer that product.

First of all can you tell me the reason why your against AMD
2nd Cabinet is the only thing you should think against buying online as the shipping cost is a lot!
3rd people recommend here on the bases of personal experience, reviews & other people experience so you should take them in mind!
BTW did you read this:-

Originally Posted by mavihs

@OP
i suggest not to buy from Lynx, they have a very bad rep of treating customers badly after selling the product!
Also which course are you doing in Animation & from where? & which semester are you in?
I also suggest going for the Dell Ultrasharp! btw there is no big advantage of having HDMI cable over DVI other than that it can transfer Audio as well!

Originally Posted by Jaskanwar Singh

i suggest you AMD phenom II 1090t. it will benefit you more. read some reviews on Anandtech see how it thrashes 930 and some others in rendering and all.

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as for the graphics card get GTX460 in SLI. it will not only thrash GTX470 but even competes with HD5970.

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get Dell UltraSharp U2311H @ 15k. its IPS panel.

+1 to all of the above 3 points!

Now for the config:-
i would suggest you a AMD config with a 1090T & a single GTX460 & save the rest of the money(rest of the config as Jaskanwar recommended)!
Reason: AMD is going to be taking out there 8 core CPU next year which is going to be compatible with your current mobo, so you will only have to change the proccy & your going to get a big boost in performance with that! Remember currently all the rendering is done on the proccy/CPU & a single GTX460 will suffix for your current gaming needs!

if you still don't want to go with AMD then i would tell you to wait for the i7 950 price drop in September!
you should know that next year Intel is going to phase out the current i3, i5 & i7 & will ring out new socket!

[asingh]

How the heck can GTX460 SLI compete with the HD5970..?

[Cool Buddy]

why not? GTX460x2 will have 336x2=672 SPs which is greater than HD5970's 3200/5=640
should come close at least

[funkysourav]

Afaik 460 sli is an inch above HD5870 and gtx 480
and beats HD5850 xfire when tessellation and AA is enabled
but hd 5970 is all about raw power
it is unassailable as of now

and there are still some reviews showing GTX 460sli beating HD5870xfire
which if you'll notice closely were benched on TWIMTBP titles

460 sli scaling is very good
but one shouldn't get too carried away

[rajan1311]

Originally Posted by Cool Buddy

why not? GTX460x2 will have 336x2=672 SPs which is greater than HD5970's 3200/5=640
should come close at least

what kind of a comparison is that? The two have totally different architectures, you cant compare like that! Dividing by 5 just for convenience? lol...

[Jaskanwar Singh]

Originally Posted by CHALLENGER

@Jaskanwar Singh
Plez give me link where amd trashes Intel 930 ? as i check that site in many benchmarks i7 920 beats amd & in some 920 is closer to ur amd. i7 920 is a 2.66ghz & 930 is 2.8ghz.

look at the comparison carefully. first in video encoding it beats i7 920. look that in some comparison LOWER IS BETTER IS ALSO WRITTEN. look that in multithreaded benchmark 1090t has ca clear lead. even 1055t is ahead of i7 920 in that. in some comparisons i7 920 takes lead because those apps are not heavily threaded. but you will see the benefit in MAYA and some future apps also. in crysis warhead, left 4 dead, fallout 3 1090t is ahead. in others diff. of only 10-12 fps.

Anandtech [ in 3dmax test i7 920 beat ur amd & in other 920 is closer to ur amd so i am sure 930 will perform much better as well check hardwarecanucks reviews & I personally love Intel. May be AMD is fast but after some time amd reduces its performance but Intel performance is stays same till end as well Intel processor is having much less drawbacks then AMD & I am purchasing Nvidia so Intel is better

TOTAL NONSENSE!!

ya i am thinking about that sli idea..Its really good but i don't know then i have to increase psu to more Watt & I have to purchase Full tower case & better cooling products as 2 cards going to make lots of heat & if the anser is yes then i think its exceeds my budget.

GTX460 is much much cooler than GTX470. CM haf is more than enough.

Ya i also want to purchase Ultrasharp U2311H IPS but is that going to give me lag in games ? I hate Lag.

nothing like that.

My pc is on 24x7 & sometimes i continuosly playing which makes lots of heat so any suggestion on cooler but don't want high end & water cooling system.

What exactly is SLI ? means if I use gtx460 1gb 256mb X 2 cards then..

1] I will get profit of both cards together or is another card is only going to work whenever it needs most ???
2] If i use 1gb 256mb 2 cards in sli mode then i will get 2gb 512mb support or 2nd card is giving less support as its in sli ???

both are 1GB cards. no additional 256mb!!

[Cool Buddy]

nope, not for convenience, they can be compared that way. Although not exactly similar, but the architectures is such that dividing the number of SPs on an ATI card by 5 makes it comparable to Nvidia's SPs. Wait for some time and I'll definitely give the source for that. I had read this in digit a long time ago, wish I'd remember which issue it was.
of course there are a number of other factors but number of SPs is a very important thing.

[Jaskanwar Singh]

read the conclusion of the ANANDTECH REVIEW as well!!

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another review for you -http://www.guru3d.com/article/phenom-ii-x6-1055t-1090t-review/1

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Originally Posted by asigh

How the heck can GTX460 SLI compete with the HD5970..?

GeForce GTX 460 SLI review

[Cool Buddy]

ATI’s architecture is a bit different- not every stream processor (Brook+ technology) is identical to its neighbor. For every block of 6 stream processing units, 4 are identical, the 5th carries different FP/INT arithmetic functions, and the 6th keeps things in check. So essentially, each block of 5 ATI stream processors (ignoring the special unit) is comparable to 1 Nvidia stream processor. The math isn’t that simple, but its a good generalization to make that helps demystify why a high-end ATI Radeon HD 4870 card with a rocking 800 stream processors is relatively weaker than an Nvidia GTX 280 with only 240.

Source: Stream Processing Units Implementation: NVIDIA vs AMD/ATI | Nosta Solutions - Hardware, Gaming, News, Reviews

The GeForce GTX 285 (G200b) – the current flagship GPU from Nvidia – has 240 stream processors, whereas ATI’s most powerful Radeon HD 4890 chip (RV790) features 160 5-way SIMD units, or 800 stream processors in ATI’s terminology.

Source: Nvidia Chief Scientist: 11nm Graphics Chips with 5000 Stream Processors Due in 2015 - X-bit labs

I wanted to quote more sources, but couldn't find. But trust me, this is what was exactly written in digit magazine

[CHALLENGER]

Originally Posted by rajan1311

^Dude, wait for another month, I7 950 will be dirt cheap, don't say "ur" AMD, he don work for them, he dont gain anything too. Just that with AMD Platform costs can be kept lower, giving you more money to spend on other things like a GTX 460 SLI setup instead of a single GTX 470.

I just don't found another word thats why i just use "ur" i know he is not working for them & he just wants me to buy good products for price & i really appreciates every1s great help. I am really leaning new things as well i am now really thinking forward to get good stuff for my money...once again great thanks to all.

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[Sam]

In terms of performance:

GTX 460 SLI (2 nos) = GTX480.

HD5870<GTX480<HD5970.

until someone going triple monitor or 6 monitor setup, HD5970 useless. so for single monitor HD5850 or GTX460 comes as best option. pick one of these.