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Another i7 Rig Configuration. Need the BLESSINGS :) of our in house experts.
After a lot of deliberation I have finalized (or rather almost finalized) the configuration. Looking forward to comments from all. Much of my decisions were made by reading the thread of ArnabBoss's 80,000/- Rig and the i7 rig at Q&A. This baby is coming to around 90,000/-. Guys I cant go any further of my Girlfriend is going to leave me (Edit: Will kill me before she leaves me - and will take my rig with her!!!)
MY computer configuration till now:
1.Motherboard: EVGA X58 Classified @ 19000/- From Phoenix CONFIRMED
2.RAM: OCZ XMP Ready DDR3 1600 From KMD @ 6600/- + Shipping 200/- CONFIRMED
3.Monitor: Dell 24” @ 13500/- from Phoenix CONFIRMED
4.Processor: Intel Core i7 920 @ 15000/- From Nehru Place (SMC) Will buy anything less than this! Suggest from where to buy in Delhi? Which Shop at Nehru Place?
5.Grafix Card: EVGA/XFX GTX 260/ 275 depending on price (I am emotionally with Nvidia, no logic here) Max I can spend is 15000/ now. I will rather buy a weak GTX 260 now and decide later whether to SLI it or to go for a GT300 series when it becomes decently priced by end of this year. May use it later as a Physx card later or gift it to the innumerable nephews and nieces I have.
6.Cabinet: CoolerMaster Gladiator @ 3900/- From Nehru place (SMC) Will buy anything less than this! Tired of seeing and hearing about CM690. It’s a good case but I like the design of Gladiator better. Any deals?
7.PSU: Coolermaster Real power 750w / Corsair 750 watt or 850w / Tagan 800w. Ready for suggestion.. Completely open to ideas. Cheapest yet decent power supply. Minimum of 750watts. Will go for the best deal
8.SMPS: APC ? (How much is just enough? Smart series or not?) Bowled and runout at the same time. No ideas honestly. Willing to spend around 8000/- . Suggestions and deals please.
9.Mouse: Razor/ Logitech @ 4000/- Minor issue. Can be settled after the other things settle down. Which is better: Razor Razer Salmosa @ 1.9k or Razer Death Adder @ 2.5k or Logitech G15 @ 4k? Help.
10.Keyboard: Standard Logitech will do.@ 500/- Sill suggest. Maximum 1250/-
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02-06-2009, 02:22 AM
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02-06-2009, 08:41 AM
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^^That cabinet looks terrific but 6k????
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If you wanna save few bucks here you can
Buy 650VA APC UPS for 3.5k and Antec EA 650w 4.8K. Yes you can survive with them.
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02-06-2009, 09:35 AM
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Why not MSI x58 Pro motherboard for 12K ? Its the cheapest Core i7 board and yet it supports all features except SLi (only tri-crossfirex support).
For GPU, Buy a HD4870 1GB for 12.5K. It pwns nVidia at high resolutions. You can add another one or maybe HD4890 1GB when it becomes cheaper.
RAM - DDR3 1600MHz sounds good on paper. But for Rs. 6600 how much GB of RAM do you get ? Do buy atleast 6GB to avoid bottleneck.
OS - you haven't named it but I recommend Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Edition when it comes out a month or two later.
Keyboard: Why not Logitech G15 ?
CPU: Try to get the D0 stepping of Core i7 920.
Monitor: WHERE did you find a Dell 24" monitor for 13.5K ? Is it 1080p ?
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02-06-2009, 09:40 AM
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Or maybe even the Corsair HX-620. I found the HX series to be an oft ignored, but nonetheless great one! If u cn find it, get it. Its great VFM! U may get EVGA GTX 260 (if it is SuperClocked), Or else get Palit. Its a super deal @ 11.1k!!! Even then I would suggest u get a PowerColour HD 4890 for 15k. That would - A). Fit ur 15k budget. B). Satisfy all ur gaming needs!
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02-06-2009, 09:44 AM
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I think it's 2409W, which is FullHD 16:9 display.
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02-06-2009, 09:51 AM
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MetalheadGautham he wants to stick with Nvidia (without any logic)
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For Nvidia, get EVGA or XFX GTX275 for some 18k
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I think it's 2409W, which is FullHD 16:9 display.
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If it is so then could it be for 13.5K?
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Last time when I heard, the price was 15.5k.
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For Nvidia, get EVGA or XFX GTX275 for some 18k
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But he is willing to spend 15K max on graphic card in that case his choices can be :-
Palit GTX 260 sonic 216 SP 896MB DDR3 for 11.5K
Zotac GTX 275 896 MB DDR3 15K
Both with Nvidia GPU's .
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02-06-2009, 10:19 AM
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MetalheadGautham he wants to stick with Nvidia (without any logic)
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Hmm... then he can get GTX295 GPU. It should fit in MSI X58 Pro Motherboard @ 10.8k comfortably.
Yeah and BTW, any action without any logic is dangerous to the point of potentially harming your own interests.
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PALIT GTX 275 SONIC SP216 => costs 16800/-
its a good deal & beats HD 4890 competes with GTX 280 with sonic edition of GTX 275
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Hmm... then he can get GTX295 GPU. It should fit in MSI X58 Pro Motherboard @ 10.8k comfortably.
Yeah and BTW, any action without any logic is dangerous to the point of potentially harming your own interests. 
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Totally agreed but some people don't care about obvious logic without any reason still we should respect their opinion about things and give them best advise by staying in their terms.
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Are you sure, about purchasing all your stuff from SMC Nehru Place..yes I know, its one of the main high end shops there. But when I went there, I found their prices slightly high..and customer interaction not that good. See online options..??
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Thanks all u guys for the lively discussion. Here are my further deals and explanations.
1. Motherboard: EVGA X58 Classified @ 19000/- From Phoenix CONFIRMED
Yes I could go for MSI at 10,000/- .
1) But then early reports of the board (posted here and in Tech-Enclave community forums) showed difficulties and non-starting up problem and even having to return the board.
2) Reviews of the board are not promising. It has not featured in any of the configurations at Toms Hardware, Anandtech, Hardware Canuks etc
3) Customer reviews are not good either. Read New Egg reviews here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ame=LGA%201366
and here http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130221
It never got 5 eggs! Guess it’s cheap because it’s not selling. Well may be all of these are sorted out by MSI which is a good brand but I am a bit jittery.
The Gigabyte UD4 would have been best..but not available in India. UD5 is too costly in India compared to US price and currently out of market.
This EVGA board has topped most reviews and is a beauty to overclock. In three years when all things might change, only the motherboard might not. So I settled for it as a dream board. But I never thought I will buy it.
The EVGA sells in US at 300$ price point. It Sells at 24,000/- price point at India (Delhi/ Nehru place). If I import it by KMD (@ techenclave) it costs 21000/- and I don’t get any warranty. While this gem of a dealer (Phoenix, Mumbai; available for group orders at Tech Enclave) made a deal at 19000/- with me including Indian warranty. That now makes some sense.
Otherwise I would have gone for Gigabyte UD3 but not MSI
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Do you really really need a 19k mobo? it would be utter waste of money.
spend max of 15k for mobo that too if it is absoutely necessary and for that 4k you can get a better GPU or you can have your own liquid cooling kit.
IMHO, a 12k-14k mobo + liquid cooling gives you lot more overclocking room than that EVGA X58 classified.
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How much were you asked for UD4 in India and outside ?
As desibond says, 19K for a mobo is a waste for money. The x58 pro has overheating issues and a cooler can fix that and also help it overclock at par with others.
You can also go the AMD Phenom II X4 955 route with a 13K AMD 790FX Quad-CrossFireX capable AM3 motherboard.
And consider DDR3 1333MHz 2GB modules at 1.8K each. 4GB or 8GB configuration with these will have a great performance at a lower cost.
I assume you want this rig for gaming because if yes put emphasis on GPUs. An AMD-ATI based rig allows toy to do just that. Phenom II X4 955 beats Core i7 920 in several gaming benchmarks even when you use your favourite nVidia GPU, the GTX295.
And yeah, if you use GTX295, you can also move to a 790X or 790GX AM3 board which is cheaper at 8K and sports 2 PCIe 2.0 8x slots which are strong enough for GTX295.
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Well said Gautam!!
True, getting a monster rig doesn't mean getting costly and premium h/w.
I bet that if youg et EVGA Classified board and sub20k GPU, someone with a cheaper mobo like the one from MSI/Gigabyte (10k-12k) range will easily beat yours in gaming with a better GPU like GTX295 and both will be paying more or less the same.
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02-06-2009, 06:39 PM
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I knw a person who managed to OC the Phenom II X4 955 from 3.2 to 4.8 using just an air cooler! Spend great on the GPU sir.
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And justification for Phenom II C4 955 Black Edition:
neoseeker review http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...eviews/pii955/
You can either go the 790GX way if you want cheap motherboard with no future room or the 790FX way (I recommend) for future-proof nature.
Or wait for nVidi 980a SLI motherboards to hit India. But I recommend 790FX AM3 anyday.
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And justification for Phenom II C4 955 Black Edition:
neoseeker review http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...eviews/pii955/
You can either go the 790GX way if you want cheap motherboard with no future room or the 790FX way (I recommend) for future-proof nature.
Or wait for nVidi 980a SLI motherboards to hit India. But I recommend 790FX AM3 anyday.
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If gaming is primary need, PII is equally good and costs almost the half [cpu+mobo].
invest on a bigger and better monitor, like a true 1080p with HDMi 26" or greater. Also speakers are almost as improtant as displays. Klipsch Pro media Ultra 5.1 is gr8 for gaming.
PII 955: 13k
790 FX mobo: 8~10k
a good cooler with 90+ CFM and dual 120 mm fans: 3k
GTX 295: 30k
u can OC it to 4Ghz or greater and beat an i7[OC] in every games.
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was looking at Phenom II X4 955 review at different sites and damn, you are right, It beats i7 in almost every benchmark (after overclocking)
Couple it with a 6k motherboard and you have a winner at hand.
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PII 955 + 790FX + GTX295 (at 53k) is much much better than core i7+EVGA Classified + GTX275 (at 51k)
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was looking at Phenom II X4 955 review at different sites and damn, you are right, It beats i7 in almost every benchmark (after overclocking)
Couple it with a 6k motherboard and you have a winner at hand.
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Forget about beating AFTER overclocking, because i7 too can be OC'ed.
The FPS difference WITHOUT overclocking in games is always too little. So even at stock it matches well.
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AMD + ATI jai ho  for giving competition to Intel & Nvidia and competition always benefits the end user.
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GUYS GUYS PLEASE
Let me begin again
Even before I begin let me tell you that my last and favourite system was AMD Athlon 64 3000 on Asus A8ni (Nforce 4 Socket 939), with 7600 gt on 4 GB DDr1 ram. It was a best bang for buck (2005)and served me well but now I cant upgrade any single component. So I am so careful about platform. I want to be able to upgrade in 2 - 3 years without having to change the whole platform.
Let me begin again: I am basically thinking aloud to clear my own confusion.
No DDR2 System is future proof. DDR2 ram will be extinct over the nest 6 month and cheap ddr3 will take over. I guess u all agree to that!
So AMD Phenom II 940 is out of question.
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Processor:
AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.2GHz B.E. @ 14k vs Intel Core i7 i920 D0 2.66GHz @ 14.8k --- Difference 800/-
Motherboard
MSI 790FX-GD70 790FX/SB750 AM3 @ 11.7k vs Gigabyte GA-EX58UD3R @ 14K --- Difference 2300/- cheaper boards are 790gx. If u compare the cheap with the cheap..... Biostar at 6.5K vs MSI at 10.K ==== 3500/-
Ram
Transcend 2GB DDR3 1333MHz CL9 RAM @ 1.8k vs
OCZ 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory at CL7(7-7-7-24) From Newegg by KMD at 6.6K /3 =2.2K ------ Difference 400/- or 1200/- if u use 6 GB on both.
Wheather u use 6 gb r not depends NOT ON PLATFORM but on your OS. On 32bit OS even your 6gb i7 is a waste. On 64 bitOS 6GB should benefit both systems.
So platform difference to make a future proof system is 3500/- ------ to 5000/- if you use 6gb of ram. Between AMD and Intel. PLZ NOTE THE SPEED AND CAS DIFFERENCE
or YOU MIGHT NOT CONSIDER ANY DIFFERENCE IF YOU USE SAME TRANSCEND RAM EVERYWHERE.
Performance DIFFERENCE BETWEEN i7 & 955 after proper over clocking of both on stock HSF: 30% (According to Toms/ Anandtechs i7 is 30% faster than Phenom clock per clock at any level of OC. Chart differences are comparing either an OC AMD to Stock 920 or the otherway round)
NOW EXPLAIN TO ME HOW ONE PLATFORM IS CHEAPER AND COST EFFECTIVE THAN OTHER??????
AND YES I NEE TO CHANGE MY MOTHERBOARD DECISION.
Last edited by Shadowfax2009; 03-06-2009 at 01:29 AM.
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03-06-2009, 01:19 AM
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Re: Another i7 Rig Configuration. Need the BLESSINGS :) of our in house experts.
As for monitor it is DELL S2409w. Here is the group order deal going over at Tech Enclave:
O.K i got this deal from Dell for the S2409W monitor.
Dell S2409W Full HD Monitor
Experience stunning detail and clarity with full High-Definition resolution. Ideal for multimedia entertainment, gaming and productivity.
* Full HD 1920 x 1080 resolution
* 16:9 dynamic aspect ratio
* HDMI high quality digital connection
PRICE : Rs 13500/- (3 Years Warranty) SHIPPED TO YOU
PRICE : Rs 14900/- (5 Years Warranty) SHIPPED TO YOU
I might be able to squeeze in a little more discount if the number is 3+ for the 5 years warranty product.
The above price is inclusive of all taxes and duties except OCTROI (Wherever Applicable). Following are the rates (Approx) in Maharashtra for Octroi. You can find teh actual rates from your local Courier People.
City Rate
Pune 7
Pimpri-Chinchwad 2.5
Mumbai 4.5 to 5
Aurangabad 4
Nashik 3.5
Kolhapur, Sangli 3
Solapur 10
Nanded 2
Warranty - 3/5 Years National Panel Replacement warranty
Billing - The monitor is being ordered in my firm's name. But i can give a bill from my own side to those who require.
PLEASE NOTE - Right now i have a quote for only this monitor as i am already getting 5 of these for others. Once all the details on this is through, only then will i start getting quotes for other monitors if needed. So kindly refrain from asking about other monitors as far as possible till then.
DELL 2408WFP UltraSharp - Rs 31500 Shipped (3 Years Warranty)
PM me or call me for details. You can find my Messenger IDs also here PhOeNiX
Cheers
Confirmed List
1 x Dell S2409W w/ 3 Years - jyotirmoy.dutta - Confirmed, Payment Received
3 x Dell S2409W w/ 3 Years - chhangte - Confirmed, Part Payment Received
1 x Dell S2409W w/ 3 Years - nadim_90210 - Confirmed, Payment Received
1 x Dell S2409W w/ 3 Years - anks22402 - Confirmed, Payment Received
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