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Old 24-08-2008, 04:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am a windows user, but I hate it. The moment I encountered linux, I was attracted to it. Don't know how but yesterday a thought came to my mind. I removed Windows XP from my hard disk & installed Fedora 9 on it. Now I am planning to permanently shift to linux and ditch windows forever. I want to do everything in linux from now on which I use to do in XP till date. I am leaving gaming too.

As you rightly guessed, I am a linux n00b. That's why I opened this thread & will be asking my queries here. I hope you will guide me in my journey.

Here is my first question :

1) The first essential thing I require is Internet. I searched a bit & configured my Nokia 5700 as a modem in Fedora 9. I used the wvdial method. Now whenever I issue the wvdial command it shows as connected, but I am unable to browse using firefox or use pidgin. I checked the wvdial.conf several times, still the problem continues.
How can this be solved?

I will be posting here from my phone as it is the only lone internet source I have.

The reason behind all this is, I want to learn linux in depth. I am ready to do any hardships for the same. If I succeed in becoming a linux pro someday, all credits to you people.

Waiting for your response.
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Old 24-08-2008, 04:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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When u connect using wvdial n phone, Firefox works in Offline mode (don't know why!).

Go to File menu n uncheck work offline. Now u can browse net..

for pidgin, same thing...

Just disable ur accounts n enable them again.. You will login...

I've used GPRS on Linux more than a year, so I know these issues
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When u connect using wvdial n phone, Firefox works in Offline mode (don't know why!).

Go to File menu n uncheck work offline. Now u can browse net..

for pidgin, same thing...

Just disable ur accounts n enable them again.. You will login...

I've used GPRS on Linux more than a year, so I know these issues
Already I did that, but no success. I even tried Konquerer, but again the same.
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nice to see gaurav that ur shiftin to linux
me too has the same query had the similar problem with mint
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Please refer the thread Internet Connection in Linux via Mobile if you are not referring to... Nice thread...
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Post the output of
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cat /etc/resolv.conf
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Old 24-08-2008, 09:49 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Add the dns addresses for your operator in /etc/resolv.conf file

Quote:
nameserver 202.54.15.30
nameserver 202.54.1.30
for TATA
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Hmm.. After searching I did the same thing, just edited the /etc/resolv.conf & inputed the DNS.

Now the net is working.

2) Is there anyway I can see the contents of my phone(Nokia 5700) without removing the memory card? I mean any softy in linux like PC suite?
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Old 25-08-2008, 01:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Nice to see That you are switching to Linux. Me too is downloading OpenSuSE 11.
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You can mount it via OBEX tools - obexfs (Not all phones would work with this method):

*This method requires the use of Bluetooth*

First, scan your phone and look for the FTP channel:

Code:
$ sdptool search FTP
Inquiring ...
Searching for FTP on 03:12:62:FD:54:56 ... # This is your Phone's MAC ID
Service Name: OBEX File Transfer
Service RecHandle: 0x1002c
Service Class ID List:
  "OBEX File Transfer" (0x1106)
Protocol Descriptor List:
  "L2CAP" (0x0100)
  "RFCOMM" (0x0003)
    Channel: 10 # This is the FTP channel
  "OBEX" (0x0008)
Language Base Attr List:
  code_ISO639: 0x454e
  encoding:    0x6a
  base_offset: 0x100
Profile Descriptor List:
  "OBEX File Transfer" (0x1106)
    Version: 0x0100
Having got the two values (In Bold above - MAC ID - 03:12:62:FD:54:56 and Channel - 10 in this case), lets proceed to mount it (FUSE):

Code:
$ mkdir Phone
$ obexfs -b03:12:62:FD:54:56 -B10 Phone/
That's it, your phone should be mounted now. Browse to the created Phone directory and you should be able to see your files

To unmount:
Code:
$ fusermount -u Phone/
(If you got kbluetooth or bluetooth-applet running, or have already paired your phone, it'd be easier)
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@Qwerty Fedora 9 comes with GVFS right, cant he type
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in Nautilus address bar, as in KDE ?

Like you said, Bluez + Kbluetoothd really simplifies the entire process
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Old 25-08-2008, 03:08 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Sorry to bump in..
But as Cool G5 said earlier,
is there PC Suite Variant for Gnome?
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@thewisecrab you can try Wammu
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On opensuse, nokia 6233+memory card can be explored without any other software using bluetooth. Other phones must also work.
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@Qwertymaniac - I don't have bluetooth dongle.
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I now want to remove KDE from Fedora 9 as I don't use it.

Tell me how to remove it.

And also when I remove KDE are KDE apps uninstalled too?
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Go to yum n remove KDE group.
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I tried,

Code:
yum remove KDE
But it failed to remove.
It said "No packages selected"
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Code:
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I am a windows user, but I hate it. The moment I encountered linux, I was attracted to it. Don't know how but yesterday a thought came to my mind. I removed Windows XP from my hard disk & installed Fedora 9 on it. Now I am planning to permanently shift to linux and ditch windows forever......
You moved too fast, not a very good idea, removing windows at the outset.
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Yah why not dual-boot? It is the best combo.
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I removed Windows, coz I wanted to get the feel of using Linux whole time.
But I didn't missed windows till now.

Now I too support "The Future is Open"
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You moved too fast, not a very good idea, removing windows at the outset.
Why not? I removed windows when I moved to slackware, never missed it ever since, not a bit. Just tried Vista once in the enthusiasm of playing games when I bought my new graphics card and Vista Beta or something was available free of cost then from the net for limited time trial.
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^You are a geek and yes if you are one then you wont miss Windows!!!
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^You are a geek and yes if you are one then you wont miss Windows!!!
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i m having dual boot...
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I removed Windows, coz I wanted to get the feel of using Linux whole time.
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Now I too support "The Future is Open"
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I removed Windows, coz I wanted to get the feel of using Linux whole time.
But I didn't missed windows till now.

Now I too support "The Future is Open"
yep I have XP on one partition but its been over a month since I booted it

May be when I play S.T.A.L.K.E.R, I will boot it.
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I am using linux since about march. Rarely I boot into windows XP. Just to play games.
NO idea to shift to Vista.
Best in linux is the idea to use many things the way you want, like I did for transferring the swap partiton to a Pen-drive, This help a lot to reduce wear and tear of my old hard-drive.
Now I can use swap on pen-drive when it is inserted and when removed, swap partititon on hard-disk is used.

The best is GPRS using wvdial, though i dont need it as i'm using broadband.
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I have a sad news guys
Had to remove Fedora 9 and reinstall Windows XP.
Reason - My sis needed Xp when I could not be present at home. She knows nothing about Linux.

I am not going to let this incident dampen my mission to be a pro. Now I am thinking of getting a new HDD(Preferably 320GB) as my current one(40GB) makes it quite difficult to keep both Linux & Windows. Till then the mission is on a hold.

Have any other suggestion guys?
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