LFY DVD's Problem !

[Dark Star]

Hi
I am a regular reader of LFY Magazine.. I loved it. Except for few problem. I have consistent problem with their DVD's..

1. . Their Mandriva Free Ed. DVD didn't work in my comp.. while worked in frnds comp.. When I d/l the OS and burnt in seperate DVD it worked ?
2. The Ubuntu DVD worked but afetr few usage it didn't load the desktop..
3. The F9 DVD they ship didn't even boot the Anaconda. While DIgit DVD work like charm

.. So the problem is with my computer or DVD's ? :s

The problem is that whenever I complaint about DVD they sent me another one which didn't work either.. So I don't wanna waste any one's money. if it's of no use..

ANy idea what should be done ?

Regards

[Pat]

Originally Posted by Dark Star

Hi
I am a regular reader of LFY Magazine.. I loved it. Except for few problem. I have consistent problem with their DVD's..

1. . Their Mandriva Free Ed. DVD didn't work in my comp.. while worked in frnds comp.. When I d/l the OS and burnt in seperate DVD it worked ?
2. The Ubuntu DVD worked but afetr few usage it didn't load the desktop..
3. The F9 DVD they ship didn't even boot the Anaconda. While DIgit DVD work like charm

.. So the problem is with my computer or DVD's ? :s

The problem is that whenever I complaint about DVD they sent me another one which didn't work either.. So I don't wanna waste any one's money. if it's of no use..

ANy idea what should be done ?

Regards

Try a new DVD ROM drive if this happens frequently with LFY's DVDs as well as other ones!

[hellknight]

atleast someone here other than me loves LFY...

Try updating your drive's firmware.. and look at the line replicated by XXXX for LFY.. and see if the other DVD's replicated by the same company works or not..

[Dark Star]

NO the problem is only with Booting LFY provided OS DVD ! No problem with any other OS DVD's or Cd's .. Or Normal Medias.. So I think Drive is not the defaulter..

[MetalheadGautham]

Nice to see a fellow LFY user. How about asking for replacement ?

[NucleusKore]

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

Nice to see a fellow LFY user. How about asking for replacement ?

He said he asked for a replacement, got it and had the same experience. Why don't you read??!!

[azaad_shri75]

Originally Posted by hellknight

atleast someone here other than me loves LFY...

Try updating your drive's firmware.. and look at the line replicated by XXXX for LFY.. and see if the other DVD's replicated by the same company works or not..

so more people are reading lfy now a days

[mehulved]

Maybe the problem is incompatibility with their media and your drive? These kind of problems are quite freqent. Try to find someone else with same DVD drive and same firmware version and try LFY DVD's there.

[ThinkFree]

Originally Posted by Dark Star

Hi
I am a regular reader of LFY Magazine.. I loved it. Except for few problem. I have consistent problem with their DVD's..

1. . Their Mandriva Free Ed. DVD didn't work in my comp.. while worked in frnds comp.. When I d/l the OS and burnt in seperate DVD it worked ?
2. The Ubuntu DVD worked but afetr few usage it didn't load the desktop..
3. The F9 DVD they ship didn't even boot the Anaconda. While DIgit DVD work like charm

.. So the problem is with my computer or DVD's ? :s

The problem is that whenever I complaint about DVD they sent me another one which didn't work either.. So I don't wanna waste any one's money. if it's of no use..

ANy idea what should be done ?

Regards

Exactly the same for me, Since May issue, I have got seven DVDs(you read it right,3 Mandriva, 3 Ubuntu and 2 Fedora including those which I got with magazine ) from them but none worked in my computer.

[Rahim]

Fedora 9 supplied with LFY is faulty, i can confirm that. It starts the installer but hangs in the middle.

Originally Posted by hellknight

atleast someone here other than me loves LFY...

Try updating your drive's firmware.. and look at the line replicated by XXXX for LFY.. and see if the other DVD's replicated by the same company works or not..

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

Nice to see a fellow LFY user. How about asking for replacement ?

Originally Posted by azaad_shri75

so more people are reading lfy now a days

Count me in LFY boys!!! Been reading it since I was introduced to Linux on 7th, June 2K7. I even celebrated it this June

[Garbage]

another LFY fan here....

This month got LFY copy today... was visiting book stalls every day for LFY..

[Dark Star]

Originally Posted by ThinkFree

Exactly the same for me, Since May issue, I have got seven DVDs(you read it right,3 Mandriva, 3 Ubuntu and 2 Fedora including those which I got with magazine ) from them but none worked in my computer.

Here are the number of extra Medias I got : 3 Mandriva , 2 Fedora .. none worked.. I didn't ordered Ubuntu cause I got from ship it.. The media quality of Ubuntu shipped CD are awesome Say Rugged Built

[ThinkFree]

Originally Posted by Dark Star

he media quality of Ubuntu shipped CD are awesome Say Rugged Built

The disks that we get absolutely free(Ubuntu, Solaris, Netbeans etc) are better than those we get free after spending some money(with mags).

[hellknight]

Ya.. mine Mandriva didn't worked too.. I asked for replacement.. they sent it and it was broken by a retard of post office who didn't noticed DVD inside

Offtopic

Actually guys.. LFY rocks in terms of the articles.. remember Code Sport and Blender.. I love them yaar.. its great

[Rahim]

In fact LFY delivers what it promises. Crisp and knowledgeable articles ( some are a little on the geeky side though) and the price is down to Rs 100 for this month's issue.

[Dark Star]

Absolutely thats why I brought LFY every month.. But I would like o see more LFY articles than Linux Journal Articles ? :s Isn't it ?

Got this mail I want your answers on the question the Ed quoted...

Dear Shashwat,
 
Thanks a lot for pointing to this forum. It's heartening to see that there
are many fans of LFY, but at the same we realise that we need to get the
DVDs working, to keep that fan base happy.
 
We have recently changed our vendor (again) and this time have gone for the
best in the country--Moser Baer. We are keeping our fingers crossed. Moser
Baer has assured us that the packaging of the disks will be all automated,
and there will no element of human touch from the time the disk is made till
the time it gets sealed in a pouch. Of course, damaging of disks during
transit cannot be avoided. But, we do hope that strict adherence to "Put the
disk in the middle of the copy" instructions at our packing vendor will help
to reduce the problem, to an extent.
 
Would it also be possible to understand from some of your friends--if their
disks are not working because of scratches or faulty media, or is it because
of software replication error? Any help on that front will allow us to start
cracking on Plan B (plan A being shifting to Moser Baer).
 
Do keep writing in, and letting us know where all we need to improve our
act.
 
Best Wishes!
 
Rahul Chopra
Editor, LFY

Here is another mail andreply for suggestion ..

Respcted Ed
 
Here is my second Suggestion Mail to LFY .. The list will go on but this
mail won't be too long :P Since I had already mailed you a long list of
suggestion in my previous mail ,I had very few suggestion atm in my mind..So
here you go : -
 
1. Please please get rid of the Cardboard type Magazine cover that you have
started .. They are big and difficult to carry .. Or if you intentd to
provide the same please include new back covers .. The one Cardboard I got
this month is the one that came with previous issue i.e. The Ubuntu One..
 
>> This cardoard is being experimented for North India copies only. So, are
you based in the same region? May I ask which city?
 
2. Please inprovde the Media quality. Specially the DVD .. Three times in a
row I wasn't able to use the DVD.. Though I agree that Mandriva has few
issue with my system. but the later 2 the Ubuntu and Fedora was not good..
Ubuntu worked though but after few usage it got corrupted.. Fedora didn't
even load the kernel..Though I got replacement of Fedora.. Thanks for that
:)
 
>> Have shared some initiatives on that front through a separate email.
 
3. Please include more reviews and tip of Linux products.. Like the tip
"Turn cassette into digital audio using Audacity was just too god" .. I
would like to point that LFY article would be much appreciated than
including Linx journal ones. !
 
>> Noted. We are now trying to reduce articles from LJ, and increase the
volume of articles written by Indian authors.
 
4. Media Covers ? now I think the CD team got me wrong.. I meant both of the
covers.. Confused :P ? Ok the covers I am talking about is the one you call
CD labels and the CD protecting Case.. The DVD covers is fantastic everytime
but I am not happy with the CD one.. Like in the current issue you deliever
the Big Buck Bunny Movie.. Therefore a BBB Cover would be much better..
Secondly I have noticed that you guys stick the CD/DVD's with the cardboard
cover that you deliever. .Removing Medias from it can eventually result in
boken Dics.. as the glue applied is very strong.. I would say please provide
Gwel Case if possible if not try to provide case like the one
Linux-magazine.com comes with..
 
>> Excellent point. Will try and get the facia of the CD improvised too.
 
>> CD TEAM: Pls note this point. Let's get cracking!
 
5. How about anniversary issue ? Special Pack for more bucks. say 150  ?
With more content and DVD ? More OS ? I think it would be gerat..
 
>>> We are planning a triple DVD issue (Debian), and more.
 
6. Please try to include older issues in pdf format .. It will help user
learn quickly and they don't even have to search for old magazine if they
miss any !
 
>> This is a tricky one. Some feel we can make money off old issues. Others
believe an annual CD compilation could be a nice gift to incite
subscriptions. While others feel, we should do it for free. No decision as
of now, but let's see what we end up with.
 
7 . Please provide multiple OS review.. I am fed up of Neighbour
child/girl/vendor review ! I am still waiting for a detailed review which I
used to see in older issue..
 
>> Noted. Will try and motivate authors to do more detailed reviews. Problem
is--'reviews' are something most authors don't like to take up.
 
8. Well since you have finalized next month OS  i.e. openSUSE 11.0 . I would
like to add Sabayon 3.5 in your upcoming list.. Just one question .Can we
get OS like Dream Linux, Myah OS , eAR OS, Foresight Linux, Arch Linux ? If
you keep on providing popular distro that keep themselves updated every 6
months ? I think it would be impossible for you to provide 2 OS in a DVD or
CD /? So can you guys start providing 2 DVDs ? or one Dual layer DVD ?
 
>> No comments on this one. Let's see. If the sales pick up, and our DVDs
face less isues, then perhaps one day--we will increase the number of DVDs.
Or, we get more advertisers ;-)
 
9. How about a newbie guide to Python ! I wanna learn it but don't know
where to get started..
 
>> I think we have done a series on that. Requesting ATANU DATTA to confirm
the issues and topics.
 
That's it for now..I am too tired to write anymore.I just think hope that my
mails aren't getting a burden for you ?
 
>> No burden at all. It was fun. Keep writing :-)
 
Check my Big Buck Bunny Movie Review  :
http://www.techenclave.com/reviews-a...-movie-review-
open-115082.html
 
Regards
Shashwat

[Rahim]

Would it also be possible to understand from some of your friends--if their
disks are not working because of scratches or faulty media, or is it because
of software replication error? Any help on that front will allow us to start
cracking on Plan B (plan A being shifting to Moser Baer).

It cant be scratches for sure as brand new DVDs too are faulty. I think the media replication may also be a culprit here as you have mentioned that some DVDs gets corrupted after some use.
To tell you what, some LFY DVDs rotates too much and make noise as if the the drive is trying to read some "not so well written data" on the DVDs.

3. Please include more reviews and tip of Linux products.. Like the tip
"Turn cassette into digital audio using Audacity was just too god" .. I
would like to point that LFY article would be much appreciated than
including Linx journal ones. !

Totally agree with you. The articles should be more of Indian oriented and the reviews are too childinsh (read application versions) like Fedora 9 review this month!! I was flabagasted reading it and really it came out the blue or was that review for a 10 year old?

We are planning a triple DVD issue (Debian), and more

That would be great for Debian lovers sure.

>> This is a tricky one. Some feel we can make money off old issues. Others
believe an annual CD compilation could be a nice gift to incite
subscriptions. While others feel, we should do it for free. No decision as
of now, but let's see what we end up with.

What tricky about it? Sure you can provide the pdfs as most of the magazines do though i dont need them.

1. Please please get rid of the Cardboard type Magazine cover that you have
started .. They are big and difficult to carry .. Or if you intentd to
provide the same please include new back covers .. The one Cardboard I got
this month is the one that came with previous issue i.e. The Ubuntu One.

Even Digit provides those jholas ,dont they? Suddenly i become a center of eye-balls when i toe-around that big package of ThinkDIGIT

[hellknight]

Hell yeah.. Debian DVD's great.. Hey, why don't we all write an open letter to Rahul Chopra regarding the corrupt DVD's.. this will certainly enlighten him about the grave problem..

Digit also rectified the issue by changing the replicator from Anant electronics to Moser Baer.. but the packaging of the DVD's esp the DVD jewel case sucks.. I can't even insert this months CD into it properly...

And Darky.. if you're gonna write him again then please tell him that the DVD's which are shipped to Himachal rarely work.. really yaar. they suck..

[Rahim]

The Editor has been informed already. Lets see the improvements.

[ThinkFree]

I am also awaiting to get Debian with LFY

[Dark Star]

Thanks for the reply.. I still would like to point on some of your statements : - 0

1. I live in Chandigarh and that's why I got Cardboard based Magz Cover.. I will go with the Plastic based cover Sealed perfectly.. Please do not stick or insert Media in Cover or inside the Magazine.. Here are few Images that will give you an idea about CD cases

http://www.linux-magazine.com/var/li..._93_medium.jpg | https://www.linux-magazine.com/var/l...necover_86.jpg | https://www.linux-magazine.com/var/l...necover_88.jpg

See the covers are made of cardboard type material but looks awesome I hope something similar should be opted

A qutoe from my friend " DVD's which are shipped to Himachal rarely work.. really yaar. they suck.."

2 . Yes .. That's a nice step.. Moser Baer though not the best but certainly a reliable source.. and Digit DVD's are also replicated by the same They never created any problem whether its booting or anything.. I just hope my OS hunt will continue again

3. I never ever thought about money when I point on old issues pdf's.. You can provide old issue pdf only in Anniversary Issue !

4. Getting more advertisement is must.. At least in the initial stage We/Users have no problem with that Also its not necessary to add Linux Ads.. Do add Dell , Intel and other ads if possible.. That will boost Funds for further improvements..

5. Well I asked my friends and I think the issue is with DVD's.. Though I can't notice scratches on Medias.. But DVD's just don't work.. Maybe s/w replication error too.. One thing I would like to point that ... The DVD worked fine when I insert it while OS is running.. Main problem is with Booting.. Also I bet the DVD quality is responsible cause while surfing the contents DVD failed to respond..

6. 3 DVD's .. and Debian.. One suggestion dump big OS for that issue. Provide other tiny projects like Arch ,Myah , Dream Linux and all..

I have been reading LFY since one year. But when is you anniversary ? .. Do include User Article Section !

Being a Linux magazine you guys are doing a great job.. But try to include a small section for gadgets ... Please include wallpaper collection of 30-100 in Cd's

On thing.. Do go through this months PCWORLD Magzine.. I don't wanna compare it.. But just check their presentation. I think they pwn every magazine in terms of presentation.. I would like to see similarly pimped LFY In future I notice Blunders in term of content but the presentation is just awesome

I want one favor, can you please include Elephant's Dream Movie ?.. I am dying to watch that too but due to bad Internet I am unable to d/l it If possible do provide bigger resolution ogg file By the way how was my Big Buck Bunny review ?

Another Suggestion.. I just can't stop myself If possible. Do organize Competition like Users Review/Tutorial Competition.. Organize this with the help of sponsers and the person/user with the best review wins a gadget .. Like ipod Nano ,PSP or something useful Digit organized the comp. and they gave away laptops and ipod touch.. Note this is just a brainstorm.. Its not necessary to do so


Regards
Shashwat

Ok Mailed him your querie too Lets ask him for a LFY Forum D:

[kuldeepsidhu]

wats is the website of LFY???

[Pat]

Originally Posted by kuldeepsidhu

wats is the website of LFY???

http://openitis.com/openitis/index.php

[drsubhadip]

good work..
i m also a fan of linux for u...
i think they will improve in future..
give them a little more time man

[Rahim]

AS for The Fedora 9 DVD, if you check the media, it shows errors, even Fedora 8 of earlier months.

[Ricky]

Originally Posted by hellknight

atleast someone here other than me loves LFY...

Try updating your drive's firmware.. and look at the line replicated by XXXX for LFY.. and see if the other DVD's replicated by the same company works or not..

You are not alone .. I hv LFY since its first edition

[Dark Star]

Another reply mail from LFY !

Thanks for the reply.. I still would like to point on some of your
statements : - 0

1. I live in Chandigarh and that's why I got Cardboard based Magz Cover.. I
will go with the Plastic based cover Sealed perfectly.. Please do not
stick or insert Media in Cover or inside the Magazine.. Here are few Images
that will give you an idea about CD cases

http://www.linux-magazine.com/var/li.../media/linux_m
agazine_eng_us/images/cover/linuxmagazinecover_93/210412-1-eng-US/linuxmagaz
inecover_93_medium.jpg |
https://www.linux-magazine.com/var/l...s/media/linux_
magazine_eng_us/images/cover/linuxmagazinecover_86/136476-1-eng-US/linuxmaga
zinecover_86.jpg |
https://www.linux-magazine.com/var/l...s/media/linux_
magazine_eng_us/images/cover/linuxmagazinecover_88/174074-1-eng-US/linuxmaga
zinecover_88.jpg

See the covers are made of cardboard type material but looks awesome I
hope something similar should be opted

A qutoe from my friend " DVD's which are shipped to Himachal rarely
work.. really yaar. they suck.."

>>> Thanks for the images. As mentioned in the earlier email, we will
certainly try and use one of these, once we have the funds. But, the new
packaging (for the DVD right now) is also slick. Do check it out and let us
know your first impression.

2 . Yes .. That's a nice step.. Moser Baer though not the best but certainly
a reliable source.. and Digit DVD's are also replicated by the same They
never created any problem whether its booting or anything.. I just hope my
OS hunt will continue again

>>> We hope (and pray) too.

3. I never ever thought about money when I point on old issues pdf's.. You
can provide old issue pdf only in Anniversary Issue !

>>> Good idea.

4. Getting more advertisement is must.. At least in the initial stage
We/Users have no problem with that Also its not necessary to add Linux
Ads.. Do add Dell , Intel and other ads if possible.. That will boost Funds
for further improvements..

>>> Totally agree. We are trying. Let's see, how things work out.

5. Well I asked my friends and I think the issue is with DVD's.. Though I
can't notice scratches on Medias.. But DVD's just don't work.. Maybe s/w
replication error too.. One thing I would like to point that ... The DVD
worked fine when I insert it while OS is running.. Main problem is with
Booting.. Also I bet the DVD quality is responsible cause while surfing the
contents DVD failed to respond..

>>> Interesting facts here. Will try and understand why the booting problem
is happening most of the times.

6. 3 DVD's .. and Debian.. One suggestion dump big OS for that issue.
Provide other tiny projects like Arch ,Myah , Dream Linux and all..

>>> Ok. Noted. perhaps we could do BIG and small distros together

I have been reading LFY since one year. But when is you anniversary ? .. Do
include User Article Section !

>>> Anniversary is in Feb 2008, but last year we did not mark it such
because our next issue was Linux Asia/Open Source India Week. But this time,
we will surely make it special.

Being a Linux magazine you guys are doing a great job.. But try to include a
small section for gadgets ... Please include wallpaper collection of 30-100
in Cd's

>>> Noted and passed to the LFY CD team. Do keep a look on the forthcoming
CDs.

On thing.. Do go through this months PCWORLD Magzine.. I don't wanna compare
it.. But just check their presentation. I think they pwn every magazine in
terms of presentation.. I would like to see similarly pimped LFY In
future I notice Blunders in term of content but the presentation is just
awesome

>>> We have tried different layouts, but once you have lotsa code and block
diagrams, the snazzy layouts just don't work. Plus, they have lotsa
investments pouring in, thus allowing them to afford one of the best paper
in the industry. Hopefully, we will be rich soon, and be able to use better
paper

Another Suggestion.. I just can't stop myself If possible. Do organize
Competition like Users Review/Tutorial Competition.. Organize this with the
help of sponsers and the person/user with the best review wins a gadget ..
Like ipod Nano ,PSP or something useful Digit organized the comp. and
they gave away laptops and ipod touch.. Note this is just a brainstorm.. Its
not necessary to do so

>>> Very nice suggestion. Let's see if we can get some gadget guys to
sponsor such a competition. I agree, this might turn out to be block-buster.
Thanks a ton for these suggestions.

CD TEAM: Pls take note of the pointers related to the CD & DVD, and do the
needful.

Regards
Shashwat

[ThinkFree]

Brought the latest issue yesterday. They have shown that customer satisfaction is their first priority(unlike digit). They have changed the packing of DVD and now it is packed in a better one, and it is kept inside the mag to prevent any damage.

[MetalheadGautham]

Borrowed the OpenSuSE 11.0 32bit DVD from my friend yesterday.
Its scratched, but maybe its because he is a messy guy.

I can't subscribe to LFY since I am out of funds by now. I wanted to cash in on that 50% off scheme, but I got delayed due to some misc. reasons and now the price jumped back to 1000 for an year from 600.

[ThinkFree]

^^They are giving upto 61% discount for five year subscription.