Why Banshee need Mono to be installed ?

Faun · 09-07-2008, 03:34 PM

I was thinking of installing it but then scraped the idea when I saw Mono in the list.

Is this thing survive over Mono only ?

Even Beagle uses Mono, any alternative to that too

Charan · 09-07-2008, 04:37 PM

^^ both beagle and banshee are built on mono framework.. thats the reason it requires mono to run...

can any one run java apps without JVM? .. nope..

praka123 · 09-07-2008, 04:41 PM

yeah .it is frustrating to see this mono crap is forced to the neck on GNU/Linux users.
@T :you should consider Listen! it is a good player.

better .net off from Open Source. it is a sick thing that miguel biatch forced this on us

Faun · 09-07-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Charan

^^ both beagle and banshee are built on mono framework.. thats the reason it requires mono to run...

can any one run java apps without JVM? .. nope..

Yeah saw the application list on mono webpage. Its after Monkey

k Installed Banshee but the new version has lost the last fm recommendation plugin

uninstalled it now and tried an in development rhythmbox last fm recommendation plugin, though it lacks threading

It isn't much different from exaile and rhythmbox !

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Originally Posted by praka123

yeah .it is frustrating to see this mono crap is forced to the neck on GNU/Linux users.
@T :you should consider Listen! it is a good player.

better .net off from Open Source. it is a sick thing that miguel biatch forced this on us

installing listen now, but till now rhythmbox is rocking

Novell had some contract !

**MetalheadGautham** · 09-07-2008, 05:29 PM

I guess its the ease of programming with mono that attracts programmers.
But Prakash, isn't mono opensource ? Why are you against it ?

Pat · 09-07-2008, 05:36 PM

^^ Maybe because it is sponsored by Novell that is (in)famous for getting in bed with Microsoft :-P

Charan · 09-07-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

I guess its the ease of programming with mono that attracts programmers.

Its cross platform capability which attracts programmers atlest for me .. ease of programming is just another criteria.

Faun · 09-07-2008, 05:43 PM

Listen is not compatible with gnome 2.22.3

falling back to rhythmbox

**MetalheadGautham** · 09-07-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Charan

Its cross platform capability which attracts programmers atlest for me .. ease of programming is just another criteria.

And aren't QT and GTK+ both cross platform too ? Infact, GTK is the most cross platform thing ever. It runs on most all current platforms. Solaris, BSD, Linux, Apple, Microsoft, all can run GTK.

Charan · 09-07-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

And aren't QT and GTK+ both cross platform too ? Infact, GTK is the most cross platform thing ever. It runs on most all current platforms. Solaris, BSD, Linux, Apple, Microsoft, all can run GTK.

Yea they are cross platform.. but why did you ask this question?

**MetalheadGautham** · 09-07-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Charan

Yea they are cross platform.. but why did you ask this question?

thought there was some other reason too.

I stated ease of use because its the only possible reason compared to native QT and GTK+.
But you said cross platform compatibility.
So I wondered if something else was in your mind.

praka123 · 09-07-2008, 05:56 PM

mono rightly deserves the term "Democlise's Sword" -for GNU/Linux. It pollutes

**MetalheadGautham** · 09-07-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by praka123

mono rightly deserves the term "Democlise's Sword" -for GNU/Linux. It pollutes

Please give more explanation.

Charan · 09-07-2008, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

thought there was some other reason too.

I stated ease of use because its the only possible reason compared to native QT and GTK+.
But you said cross platform compatibility.
So I wondered if something else was in your mind.

One should not be restricted to one platform/programming language.. else there will be no zing in life.. different languages have different features and it should be explored. Once should give chance to all platforms to prove what it claims to do..

**MetalheadGautham** · 09-07-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Charan

One should not be restricted to one platform/programming language.. else there will be no zing in life.. different languages have different features and it should be explored. Once should give chance to all platforms to prove what it claims to do..

er... so that your reason ?

Charan · 09-07-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

er... so that your reason ?

Atleast for me..

, if it wasnt for the demand of gigasmilies for linux .. I would not have looked into QT or GTK+ both are excellent

well we are getting offtopic .. lets get back to alternates for Banshee.

**MetalheadGautham** · 09-07-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Charan

Atleast for me..

, if it wasnt for the demand of gigasmilies for linux .. I would not have looked into QT or GTK+ both are excellent

well we are getting offtopic .. lets get back to alternates for Banshee.

[offtopic]
rofl

I thought you had deeper answers. Like the ones I see on oss vs propiatary threads where you act as moderator. I guess I am speaking to the plain old charan now.

[/offtopic]

Alternates for banshee ? Yes, Rhythembox. NEXT QUESTION ?

Faun · 09-07-2008, 06:23 PM

K guys this isn't battlefield, Metalhead get back to URT

I tried Banshee and Listen(heck is too old to start without errors), there was nothing new. So came back to the roots

Charan · 09-07-2008, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

[offtopic]
rofl

I thought you had deeper answers. Like the ones I see on oss vs propiatary threads where you act as moderator. I guess I am speaking to the plain old charan now.

[/offtopic]

[offtopic]
Me acting as mods?

pls PM me the links where you found that.
Were you expecting me to turn this into a War thread?

no im not Khaithan Boy
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**MetalheadGautham** · 09-07-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Charan

[offtopic]
Me acting as mods?

pls PM me the links where you found that.
Were you expecting me to turn this into a War thread?

no im not Khaithan Boy
[/offtopic]

[offtopic]
moderator in the sense debate moderator. You know... the type in REAL LIFE.
I guess you are too addicted to the forum to think moderator can mean something other than green name.

[/offtopic]

QwertyManiac · 09-07-2008, 07:10 PM

What have you got against languages? .Net has some great concepts in it and lots of classes, I don't see any reason why its to be hated either in its native or in mono form. Sure its a bit slow being based on something interpretive/virtual like Java but thats no reason you'd deny the good apps built on it.

But anyways, thread's filled with one vehemently and blindly opposed to anything that has something or the other to do with the MSFT even remotely, and one who's a bunny, supporting him

I guess I'd like to be the Alpaca for some more time

Faun · 09-07-2008, 07:15 PM

I wouldn't mind if it weren't for bunch of applications (just 2 in case).

Basically my main look out was for last fm recommendation plugin, which is not available for the latest build of Banshee.

QwertyManiac · 09-07-2008, 07:35 PM

So you mean you'd mind if it was used in a lot of applications?

Gnome-Do runs on Mono too btw (and a small mix of other languages). There's even F-Spot and Tomboy notes iirc. Gnome-Do is one revolutionary application and its all thanks to Mono's easiness.

(Though I'd prefer using Python with Qt any day for my applications, he found his proficiency with Mono and he used it well!)

praka123 · 09-07-2008, 07:37 PM

the reason being M$ to attack Linux for "this" reason also. that is .net as mono. you cannot believe m$ . mind it

QwertyManiac · 09-07-2008, 08:08 PM

Fine, think as you like. I'd think an open source supporter's mind would be open to innovation in other forms too, but its clearly not so.

Pat · 09-07-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by praka123

the reason being M$ to attack Linux for "this" reason also. that is .net as mono. you cannot believe m$ . mind it

Just because someone MIGHT sue your family-member, you don't disown him/her, do you ?

Faun · 09-07-2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by QwertyManiac

So you mean you'd mind if it was used in a lot of applications?

Gnome-Do runs on Mono too btw (and a small mix of other languages). There's even F-Spot and Tomboy notes iirc. Gnome-Do is one revolutionary application and its all thanks to Mono's easiness.

Nope, id there are more apps dependent on it and interest me then it not a problem. I even haven't installed Wine (just cuz i don't want to screw things for few games, its better to use XP for that)

I don't have F-Spot and Tomboy installed. gThumb serves me well and then comes GIMP for heavy editing.

The first time I came to know abt mono was while installing Beagle in Arch. Previously it was by Default in Ubuntu, which now I have lost touch for an eon.

FilledVoid · 09-07-2008, 08:48 PM

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The first time I came to know abt mono was while installing Beagle in Arch. Previously it was by Default in Ubuntu, which now I have lost touch for an eon.

Mono comes by default on Ubuntu? Hmmm I thought I had to install Mono on my system to get something to work

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Hitboxx · 09-07-2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by T159

I wouldn't mind if it weren't for bunch of applications (just 2 in case).

Basically my main look out was for last fm recommendation plugin, which is not available for the latest build of Banshee.

I would personally recommend you to try out quodlibet, my current favourite, with many plugins including audioscrobber ie., last.fm