Forum     

Go Back   Digit Technology Discussion Forum > Software > Open Source
Register FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Open Source A place where you can talk to like-minded people about the fastest growing software movement today! Discuss anything and everything about Open Source software and Operating Systems.


Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 30-06-2008, 06:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
Debian Gnu/Linux User
 
Sathish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Mars
Posts: 556
Arrow Doubts on Linux Root account..


I am new to Linux World and now i have started to learn Linux from basically.
Lot of professional tech guys says that linux is more secure than windows in lot of ways,such as file system, process architecture, core component of OS, execution of root account, etc.. Digit has also an article regarding this, in their early issues. Apart from that i have following doubts regarding Root Account.

1. what is the main difference between Root account in Linux and Administrator account in Windows. Both are controlled the important settings of OS mostly in the same way..
2. recently I read the method of resetting the root password without entering old password..This is published in QnA section in Digit.. So how can we tell linux is safe.. as far as windows, resetting administrator password is possible only by providing password..(i agree that there are no .of third party tools have done this but only as illegal.)
3. By logically, as the source code of Linux distribution is available freely to all, Is there any way to change the password of root account by a veteran programmer?
(I am not a professional programmer, so i could not specify exactly)
4. Is there any limitation to Root account to control entire OS?
__________________
Living for Learning & Learning for Living
Sathish is offline  
Advertisements. Register and be a member of the community to get rid of them.
Advertisement

Old 30-06-2008, 06:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
18 Till I Die............
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: India, Mumbai, Marine Lines
Posts: 5,792
Default Re: Doubts on Linux Root account..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Betruger View Post
2. recently I read the method of resetting the root password without entering old password..This is published in QnA section in Digit.. So how can we tell linux is safe.. as far as windows, resetting administrator password is possible only by providing password..(i agree that there are no .of third party tools have done this but only as illegal.)
I won't give the answer but just inform you that there are ways to avoid this. As to how, I leave it for you to figure out yourself.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Betruger View Post
3. By logically, as the source code of Linux distribution is available freely to all, Is there any way to change the password of root account by a veteran programmer?
No, it's doesn't work that way. The password is provided by the user, it's encrypted then stored in specific file, which can only be read by root. Even if it's obtained, if you have a strong password it'd be huge waste of time, if not impossible to reverse it and find the actual password.
__________________
http://www.bash.org/?258908
mehulved is offline  
Old 30-06-2008, 06:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
Wise Old Owl
 
hullap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: delhi
Posts: 1,429
Default Re: Doubts on Linux Root account..

i cant make any sense of query three
four, no, there is NO limitation, if ur using root, its just like your siggy
just get back with the first two queries

Quote:
Originally Posted by mehulved View Post
I won't give the answer but just inform you that there are ways to avoid this. As to how, I leave it for you to figure out yourself.
hmm, bios password?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Betruger View Post
1. what is the main difference between Root account in Linux and Administrator account in Windows. Both are controlled the important settings of OS mostly in the same way..
MOST why-linux-is-better or use-linux sites have the answer

Last edited by hullap; 30-06-2008 at 06:40 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
hullap is offline  
Old 30-06-2008, 06:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
18 Till I Die............
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: India, Mumbai, Marine Lines
Posts: 5,792
Default Re: Doubts on Linux Root account..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Betruger View Post
4. Is there any limitation to Root account to control entire OS?
Usually no, but possibly yes. One distro that comes to mind here is Fedora. Hint:- SELinux. You can explore further.
__________________
http://www.bash.org/?258908
mehulved is offline  
Old 30-06-2008, 07:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
Alpha Geek
 
adi007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: hassan
Posts: 717
Default Re: Doubts on Linux Root account..

2. I think u are talking about single user mode which can be avoided by editing the grub menu and adding the password..Google it and u will find it

3.It is impossible all the root passwords are encrypted in md5 encryption along with md5 salt..
With the combination of salt only the md5 gets decrypted..
No one in the world can decrypt it..
I know all these coz i tried to decrypt my college computer lab's root password but in vain...
If it was just ordinary md5 encrypted then it could be possible to decrypt it by the help of collisions
__________________
doiteasily.com ►easy way(s) to do certain things
Tech Word of the day : ADSL
Aditech Blog ► There is something for everyone
Terminal Command of the day
regtweak.info ► Windows Registry hacks and tricks
adi007 is offline  
Old 30-06-2008, 07:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
Wahahaha~!
 
Faun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Pune/there
Posts: 7,676
Default Re: Doubts on Linux Root account..

Quote:
Originally Posted by adi007 View Post
md5 encryption along with md5 salt..
With the combination of salt only the md5 gets decrypted..
lets make is spicy...lolz

those salts are timestamp generated, so you will never know the combination
__________________
Blog | Flickr | Battlelog
Spoiler:
Asus Z68 V-Pro|i5 2500k|TRUE Black|Ripjaws X|U2311H|N560GTX|D7000|XONAR STX|RE272|RE0|CC51|XE200PRO Walnut| TD II V2| Ultraphile|N5800

Mono
Faun is offline  
Old 30-06-2008, 08:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
Alpha Geek
 
adi007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: hassan
Posts: 717
Default Re: Doubts on Linux Root account..

Quote:
Originally Posted by T159 View Post
lets make is spicy...lolz

those salts are timestamp generated, so you will never know the combination
Yup u are right
__________________
doiteasily.com ►easy way(s) to do certain things
Tech Word of the day : ADSL
Aditech Blog ► There is something for everyone
Terminal Command of the day
regtweak.info ► Windows Registry hacks and tricks
adi007 is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
is there a way to access linux partitions 4rm windows using the root pwd? shankar_ganesh Open Source 12 29-12-2006 10:15 PM
Anyway to boot into linux if root password is forgoteen? vinayasurya Open Source 8 28-12-2005 03:53 PM
Reset the linux root password............. anitxp Open Source 5 19-08-2005 12:06 PM
Forgot the Linux root password! hafees Open Source 3 17-02-2005 12:15 PM

 
Latest Threads
- by Sujeet
- by soumya
- by clmlbx
- by Charan

Advertisement




All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 01:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.3.2