the Arch Linux thread - Page 16

**ico** · 24-01-2012, 08:49 PM

This was indeed a serious issue.

Even I had two System Settings. Do I like it? NO WAY!!!1 I get confused.

[Phoronix] GNOME & KDE Developers Go To Battle Over A Name

'Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by' - MARC

'Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings"' - MARC

nims11 · 24-01-2012, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ico

Removed KDE.

Because I realised one thing - I can't work in KDE. Infact, I can't work in anything other than GNOME 3.

interchange KDE and GNOME 3 for my case

**ico** · 24-01-2012, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nims11

interchange KDE and GNOME 3 for my case

Watch this then.

That was just a demo. I work with 10-15 windows opened at once. 3 of them Browsers. One Terminal. A couple of IM windows. Gedit. File Browser. GIMP. And many more.

KDE = huge mess. GNOME 3 = just works.

And IM notifications are boss if I'm in some other workspace.

nims11 · 25-01-2012, 01:12 AM

GNOME - elegant and professional, true. Also the workspace implementation is quite impressive (better than KDE as it looked) as in the video.
With 3 workspaces+Yakuake, i feel comfy with KDE. Also since i am quite lazy to reach my hands out to the mouse, KDE's flexible keyboard shortcuts for almost everything is a blessing for me.

I had tried GNOME 3 few weeks ago and it was very elegant and minimalistic. Unfortunately, lack of visible customizations and non-intuitive interface made me switch back

. But the Mint's implementation of GNOME 3 is impressive and i would like to see something like that on my Arch.

PS : Installing GNOME 3 again... Want to try it out again

doomgiver · 27-01-2012, 10:22 PM

i ALWAYS told you guys kde sucks. now i stand vindicated.

hellknight · 30-01-2012, 06:45 AM

I'm having some kind of problem with my rc.conf configuration in the modules section. The wiki says that I shouldn't enter anything in the modules section now. Here's the output of my file :-

PHP Code:


			
#

# /etc/rc.conf - Main Configuration for Arch Linux

#



# -----------------------------------------------------------------------

# LOCALIZATION

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------

#

# LOCALE: available languages can be listed with the 'locale -a' command

# DAEMON_LOCALE: If set to 'yes', use $LOCALE as the locale during daemon

# startup and during the boot process. If set to 'no', the C locale is used.

# HARDWARECLOCK: set to "UTC" or "localtime", any other value will result

#   in the hardware clock being left untouched (useful for virtualization)

#   Note: Using "localtime" is discouraged.

# TIMEZONE: timezones are found in /usr/share/zoneinfo

# KEYMAP: keymaps are found in /usr/share/kbd/keymaps

# CONSOLEFONT: found in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts (only needed for non-US)

# CONSOLEMAP: found in /usr/share/kbd/consoletrans

# USECOLOR: use ANSI color sequences in startup messages

# VERBOSE: Verbose level (from 1 to 8). man 3 syslog for level info

#

LOCALE="en_US.UTF-8"

DAEMON_LOCALE="no"

HARDWARECLOCK="localtime"

TIMEZONE="Asia/Kolkata"

KEYMAP="us"

CONSOLEFONT=

CONSOLEMAP=

USECOLOR="yes"

VERBOSE="3"



# -----------------------------------------------------------------------

# HARDWARE

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------

#

# MODULES: Modules to load at boot-up. Blacklisting is no longer supported.

#   Replace every !module by an entry as on the following line in a file in

#   /etc/modprobe.d:

#     blacklist module

#   See "man modprobe.conf" for details.

#



MODULES=(microcode powernow-k8 cpufreq_ondemand cpufreq_powersave vboxdrv vboxnetflt )

# Udev settle timeout (default to 30)

UDEV_TIMEOUT=30



# Scan for FakeRAID (dmraid) Volumes at startup

USEDMRAID="no"



# Scan for BTRFS volumes at startup

USEBTRFS="no"



# Scan for LVM volume groups at startup, required if you use LVM

USELVM="no"



# -----------------------------------------------------------------------

# NETWORKING

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------

#

# HOSTNAME: Hostname of machine. Should also be put in /etc/hosts

#

HOSTNAME="AX-64"



# Use 'ip addr' or 'ls /sys/class/net/' to see all available interfaces.

#

# Wired network setup

#   - interface: name of device (required)

#   - address: IP address (leave blank for DHCP)

#   - netmask: subnet mask (ignored for DHCP)

#   - gateway: default route (ignored for DHCP)

# 

# Static IP example

# interface=eth0

# address=192.168.0.2

# netmask=255.255.255.0

# gateway=192.168.0.1

#

# DHCP example

# interface=eth0

# address=

# netmask=

# gateway=



interface=eth0

address=192.168.1.2

netmask=255.255.255.0

gateway=192.168.1.1



# Setting this to "yes" will skip network shutdown.

# This is required if your root device is on NFS.

NETWORK_PERSIST="no"



# Enable these netcfg profiles at boot-up. These are useful if you happen to

# need more advanced network features than the simple network service

# supports, such as multiple network configurations (ie, laptop users)

#   - set to 'menu' to present a menu during boot-up (dialog package required)

#   - prefix an entry with a ! to disable it

#

# Network profiles are found in /etc/network.d

#

# This requires the netcfg package

#

#NETWORKS=(main)



# -----------------------------------------------------------------------

# DAEMONS

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------

#

# Daemons to start at boot-up (in this order)

#   - prefix a daemon with a ! to disable it

#   - prefix a daemon with a @ to start it up in the background

#

# If something other takes care of your hardware clock (ntpd, dual-boot...)

# you should disable 'hwclock' here.

#

DAEMONS=(hwclock @acpid syslog-ng network netfs dkms_autoinstaller sshd @crond @alsa dbus hal gdm @cpufreq @cpu)

Can someone please post the output of your rc.conf file so I can see what is wrong. Everything is working fine, but I get some messages during the boot time.

**ico** · 30-01-2012, 07:00 AM

Here's mine:

PHP Code:


			
#
# /etc/rc.conf - Main Configuration for Arch Linux
#

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# LOCALIZATION
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# LOCALE: available languages can be listed with the 'locale -a' command
# DAEMON_LOCALE: If set to 'yes', use $LOCALE as the locale during daemon
# startup and during the boot process. If set to 'no', the C locale is used.
# HARDWARECLOCK: set to "", "UTC" or "localtime", any other value will result
#   in the hardware clock being left untouched (useful for virtualization)
#   Note: Using "localtime" is discouraged, using "" makes hwclock fall back
#   to the value in /var/lib/hwclock/adjfile
# TIMEZONE: timezones are found in /usr/share/zoneinfo
#   Note: if unset, the value in /etc/localtime is used unchanged
# KEYMAP: keymaps are found in /usr/share/kbd/keymaps
# CONSOLEFONT: found in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts (only needed for non-US)
# CONSOLEMAP: found in /usr/share/kbd/consoletrans
# USECOLOR: use ANSI color sequences in startup messages
#
LOCALE="en_US.UTF-8"
DAEMON_LOCALE="no"
HARDWARECLOCK="localtime"
TIMEZONE="Asia/Kolkata"
KEYMAP="us"
CONSOLEFONT=
CONSOLEMAP=
USECOLOR="yes"

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# HARDWARE
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# MODULES: Modules to load at boot-up. Blacklisting is no longer supported.
#   Replace every !module by an entry as on the following line in a file in
#   /etc/modprobe.d:
#     blacklist module
#   See "man modprobe.conf" for details.
#
MODULES=()

# Udev settle timeout (default to 30)
UDEV_TIMEOUT=30

# Scan for FakeRAID (dmraid) Volumes at startup
USEDMRAID="no"

# Scan for BTRFS volumes at startup
USEBTRFS="no"

# Scan for LVM volume groups at startup, required if you use LVM
USELVM="no"

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# NETWORKING
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# HOSTNAME: Hostname of machine. Should also be put in /etc/hosts
#
HOSTNAME="omzoc"

# Use 'ip addr' or 'ls /sys/class/net/' to see all available interfaces.
#
# Wired network setup
#   - interface: name of device (required)
#   - address: IP address (leave blank for DHCP)
#   - netmask: subnet mask (ignored for DHCP) (optional, defaults to 255.255.255.0)
#   - broadcast: broadcast address (ignored for DHCP) (optional)
#   - gateway: default route (ignored for DHCP)
# 
# Static IP example
# interface=eth0
# address=192.168.0.2
# netmask=255.255.255.0
# broadcast=192.168.0.255
# gateway=192.168.0.1
#
# DHCP example
# interface=eth0
# address=
# netmask=
# gateway=

interface=
address=
netmask=
broadcast=
gateway=

# Setting this to "yes" will skip network shutdown.
# This is required if your root device is on NFS.
NETWORK_PERSIST="no"

# Enable these netcfg profiles at boot-up. These are useful if you happen to
# need more advanced network features than the simple network service
# supports, such as multiple network configurations (ie, laptop users)
#   - set to 'menu' to present a menu during boot-up (dialog package required)
#   - prefix an entry with a ! to disable it
#
# Network profiles are found in /etc/network.d
#
# This requires the netcfg package
#
#NETWORKS=(main)

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# DAEMONS
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# Daemons to start at boot-up (in this order)
#   - prefix a daemon with a ! to disable it
#   - prefix a daemon with a @ to start it up in the background
#
# If something other takes care of your hardware clock (ntpd, dual-boot...)
# you should disable 'hwclock' here.
#
DAEMONS=(hwclock syslog-ng alsa dbus networkmanager netfs crond cupsd)

hellknight · 30-01-2012, 07:34 AM

All modules are detected via the rc.conf file? What about the power savings of your processor?

**ico** · 30-01-2012, 08:36 AM

well, actually the thing is, i5-2500k is really power efficient. So, I didn't bother with CPU frequency scaling related modules.

Liverpool_fan · 30-01-2012, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ico

well, actually the thing is, i5-2500k is really power efficient. So, I didn't bother with CPU frequency scaling related modules.

You should.

hellknight · 30-01-2012, 09:12 AM

^^ico.. one more question.. I tried your method but the kernel doesn't loads the virtualbox modules. Neither are the other modules loaded.. something's wrong.. But on the bright side, i'm getting full speed when copying files to NTFS partitions..

**ico** · 30-01-2012, 09:20 AM

ok, I updated my rc.conf.

it's same apart from CPU Frequency Ondemand scaling.

PHP Code:


			
#
# /etc/rc.conf - Main Configuration for Arch Linux
#

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# LOCALIZATION
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# LOCALE: available languages can be listed with the 'locale -a' command
# DAEMON_LOCALE: If set to 'yes', use $LOCALE as the locale during daemon
# startup and during the boot process. If set to 'no', the C locale is used.
# HARDWARECLOCK: set to "", "UTC" or "localtime", any other value will result
#   in the hardware clock being left untouched (useful for virtualization)
#   Note: Using "localtime" is discouraged, using "" makes hwclock fall back
#   to the value in /var/lib/hwclock/adjfile
# TIMEZONE: timezones are found in /usr/share/zoneinfo
#   Note: if unset, the value in /etc/localtime is used unchanged
# KEYMAP: keymaps are found in /usr/share/kbd/keymaps
# CONSOLEFONT: found in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts (only needed for non-US)
# CONSOLEMAP: found in /usr/share/kbd/consoletrans
# USECOLOR: use ANSI color sequences in startup messages
#
LOCALE="en_US.UTF-8"
DAEMON_LOCALE="no"
HARDWARECLOCK="localtime"
TIMEZONE="Asia/Kolkata"
KEYMAP="us"
CONSOLEFONT=
CONSOLEMAP=
USECOLOR="yes"

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# HARDWARE
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# MODULES: Modules to load at boot-up. Blacklisting is no longer supported.
#   Replace every !module by an entry as on the following line in a file in
#   /etc/modprobe.d:
#     blacklist module
#   See "man modprobe.conf" for details.
#
MODULES=(coretemp acpi-cpufreq cpufreq_ondemand)

# Udev settle timeout (default to 30)
UDEV_TIMEOUT=30

# Scan for FakeRAID (dmraid) Volumes at startup
USEDMRAID="no"

# Scan for BTRFS volumes at startup
USEBTRFS="no"

# Scan for LVM volume groups at startup, required if you use LVM
USELVM="no"

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# NETWORKING
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# HOSTNAME: Hostname of machine. Should also be put in /etc/hosts
#
HOSTNAME="omzoc"

# Use 'ip addr' or 'ls /sys/class/net/' to see all available interfaces.
#
# Wired network setup
#   - interface: name of device (required)
#   - address: IP address (leave blank for DHCP)
#   - netmask: subnet mask (ignored for DHCP) (optional, defaults to 255.255.255.0)
#   - broadcast: broadcast address (ignored for DHCP) (optional)
#   - gateway: default route (ignored for DHCP)
# 
# Static IP example
# interface=eth0
# address=192.168.0.2
# netmask=255.255.255.0
# broadcast=192.168.0.255
# gateway=192.168.0.1
#
# DHCP example
# interface=eth0
# address=
# netmask=
# gateway=

interface=
address=
netmask=
broadcast=
gateway=

# Setting this to "yes" will skip network shutdown.
# This is required if your root device is on NFS.
NETWORK_PERSIST="no"

# Enable these netcfg profiles at boot-up. These are useful if you happen to
# need more advanced network features than the simple network service
# supports, such as multiple network configurations (ie, laptop users)
#   - set to 'menu' to present a menu during boot-up (dialog package required)
#   - prefix an entry with a ! to disable it
#
# Network profiles are found in /etc/network.d
#
# This requires the netcfg package
#
#NETWORKS=(main)

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# DAEMONS
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# Daemons to start at boot-up (in this order)
#   - prefix a daemon with a ! to disable it
#   - prefix a daemon with a @ to start it up in the background
#
# If something other takes care of your hardware clock (ntpd, dual-boot...)
# you should disable 'hwclock' here.
#
DAEMONS=(hwclock syslog-ng alsa dbus networkmanager netfs crond cupsd cpufreq)

nims11 · 30-01-2012, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellknight

^^ico.. one more question.. I tried your method but the kernel doesn't loads the virtualbox modules. Neither are the other modules loaded.. something's wrong.. But on the bright side, i'm getting full speed when copying files to NTFS partitions..

what is the error when loading modules through modprobe. like in
modprobe vboxdrv
?

njathan · 31-01-2012, 10:07 AM

I've seen this happen quite a few times with other packages on an odd day. IMO this should either be a temporary error, or you need to fix the issues with the latest pacman major version.

hellknight · 31-01-2012, 04:04 PM

^^Nims11, I can manually load the modules, I've even made a shell script & copied it to the /etc/rc.local file.. They're loading fine now, but now I'm getting very less copying speed on NTFS drives..

DeSmOnD dAvId · 03-02-2012, 12:31 AM

Sorry for cutting in....

I am new to Archlinux and would like to try it out on Virtualbox for Windows. I have an i5 lap and the x86-64 ISO, but when I try to boot into the iso from Virtualbox, i get the error "This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to boot - Please use a kernel appropriate to your CPU". Please help....or point me in the right direction.

nims11 · 03-02-2012, 01:50 AM

^^ in settings for the virtual machine, goto System->Accelaration -> select enable VT-x/AMD-V

DeSmOnD dAvId · 03-02-2012, 02:37 AM

Its enabled. Is there something wrong with the ISO?

Liverpool_fan · 03-02-2012, 03:01 AM

Your Windows is x64 I hope.

hellknight · 03-02-2012, 07:28 AM

Some of the laptops have this extension disabled from the BIOS. First check if your Windows is 64-bit or not. If yes, then reboot the system, open BIOS & enable the CPU extension if it is disabled.

DeSmOnD dAvId · 03-02-2012, 10:10 AM

FYI, I have an HP G6 lap, purchased late last year. Core i5+4 gigs RAM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liverpool_fan

Your Windows is x64 I hope.

Yup, it is. But, since the iso is x86-64, I think it should not matter, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellknight

Some of the laptops have this extension disabled from the BIOS. First check if your Windows is 64-bit or not. If yes, then reboot the system, open BIOS & enable the CPU extension if it is disabled.

Will this option be available a laptop BIOS? I'll check anyway.

ManiDhillon · 03-02-2012, 10:19 AM

@hellknight
Processor?
Board?
Arch up to date or not?

Try to disable AMD Boost in BIOS if you have that option.

hellknight · 04-02-2012, 07:49 AM

^^Everything's working fine now.. It's up-to-date.. I created a shell script & copied it to /etc/rc.local & it loads the required modules during boot. Sweet

Update:- Just found out that AMD Fusion works well under Arch Linux. So, if any of you guys have a AMD fusion based product, please, oh please, try & install Arch Linux on it and tell me about it's hardware acceleration. I'll be getting E-350 based motherboard for my needs.

**ico** · 04-02-2012, 08:25 AM

^^

E-350 is expensive. Why not buy A6-3500 + A55M motherboard in the same price?

hellknight · 04-02-2012, 08:40 AM

^^TDP dude.. TDP

.. Thinking of getting Atom Dual Core + GT 210. BTW, what's the TDP of A6-3500?

**ico** · 04-02-2012, 08:55 AM

TDP of A6-3500 is 65w.

anyways, Intel and AMD rate TDPs differently.

hellknight · 04-02-2012, 08:56 AM

^^Woah!! With an integrated graphics core.. That is awesome.. Now suggest a cheap motherboard to go with this baby..

**ico** · 04-02-2012, 08:58 AM

Gigabyte GA-A55M-S2V.

**krishnandu.sarkar** · 05-02-2012, 08:46 PM

Hey guys, I recently installed Arch 64bit. And just updating the system using pacman -Syu. I haven't yet installed X.

The problem is, it's asking for replacing module-init-tools with core/kmod. If I answer yes it checks file integrity and all and lastly it throws error...

Code:

error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
filesystem: /etc/mtab exists in filesystem
no packages were upgraded

And if I answer no there, it asks for removing module-init-tools on which answering both yes and no gets to the same errors as stated above.

I tried removing module-init-tools, but it looks like many imp. packages need it, like mkinitcpio, kernel, udev etc.

Also I'd like to state, things that I've already tried...
Previously I was getting two errors..
1. filesystem: /etc/mtab exists in filesystem (As stated above)
2. something same related to /etc/locale.d/locale.sh

So I tried removing both, but both gets generated on reboot.

So I did a bit of googling and did grep -v rootfs /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab

BTW one more thing which I should mention, on boot df works fine. But after running pacman -Syu and getting those errors df says "df cannot read table of mounted file systems"

Same thing happens on removing /etc/mtab

Can anyone help me out here if someone has already gone through this??