Linux Mint 5 "Elyssa" Released

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Linux Mint is an Ubuntu-based distribution whose goal is to provide a more complete out-of-the-box experience by including browser plugins, media codecs, support for DVD playback, Java and other components. It also adds a custom desktop and menus, several unique configuration tools, and a web-based package installation interface. Linux Mint is compatible with Ubuntu software repositories.

Clement Lefebvre has announced the release of Linux Mint 5.0, an enhanced and user-friendly desktop Linux distribution based on Ubuntu 8.04.

MintUpdate was refactored and its memory usage was drastically reduced. On some systems the amount of RAM used by mintUpdate after a few days went from 100MB to 6MB.Mozilla also greatly improved the memory usage in Firefox between version 2 and 3 (Read more).Elyssa comes with kernel version 2.6.24 which features a brand new scheduler called CFS . The kernel scheduler is responsible for the CPU time allocated to each process.

Linux Mint 5 Elyssa is supported by CNR.com which features commercial services and applications which are not available via the traditional channels.

The Software Portal introduced in Linux Mint 4.0 Daryna is receiving more focus as it represents the easiest way to install applications. About 10 times more applications will be made available for Linux Mint 5 Elyssa.

Features :

• Linux Kernel 2.6.24
• Gnome 2.22
• Open Office.org 2.4
• Firefox 3
• Xorg 7.3
• Transmission
• Brasero
• CCSM & Simple CCSM
• Envy NG
• PPPOE
• Pulse Audio
• Gnome Do
• Mint Utilities

Download : FTP Download | Torrent
Release Notes : Elyssa Release Notes - Linux Mint
Home Page : Main Page - Linux Mint

[SunnyChahal]

WOW!Downloading right away!

[Hitboxx]

Ah nice, kudos to this rock solid distribution, downloading.

[MetalheadGautham]

this thing beats the crap out of Ubuntu.
Downloading tomorrow.(but not for using )

[Pat]

^^Wow! So now you will bad-mouth Ubuntu everywhere ? Also dont forget Linux Mint wouldnt have been here if there was no Ubuntu!!

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by Pat

^^Wow! So now you will bad-mouth Ubuntu everywhere ? Also dont forget Linux Mint wouldnt have been here if there was no Ubuntu!!

ubuntu wouldn't be here without Debian

anyway, I am not bad mouthing ubuntu.

I am comparing two similar configuration OSes with common roots needing similar systems to run on.

Ubuntu is a great OS for Newbies, I fully Agree.

But Mint beats it because it provides a better set of applications, has more features, is easier to use and is newbie friendly.

Unless you live in a country where every action of yours is copyrighted, like the US, you will have no trouble with Mint. So Ubuntu for americans, Mint for the rest of us.

We mustn't forget that Ubuntu is supposed to be an operating system designed keeping newbies, not pros in mind. So if thats what its scope is, I would HAVE to say Mint is better.

Look at the following factors:

1. Debian has the simplest and easiest package manager
2. Gnome is the most newbie friendly environment
3. Ubuntu is an OS with excellent commercial support
4. There exist few newbie friendly Debian/Gnome based OSes except Ubuntu and company.
5. Ubuntu is restricted by American copyright laws and African design laws.
6. Ubuntu is based on debian as an easy to use OS
7. Mint is designed as what ubuntu should be
8. Mint has no american copyright issues

CLEARLY MINT IS THE WINNER OF THE MOST NEWBIE FRIENDLY OS EVER

and only some paid distros can beat its user friendliness, that too by a tiny amount.

But in the end this doesn't concern me one bit because I am not a newbie. So I may pass judgements, but they are of little significance to me and my choice of OS.

[Pat]

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

ubuntu wouldn't be here without Debian

Yes, but I guess you would accept the fact that Ubuntu has made far more contribution to upstream than Mint.

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

But Mint beats it because it provides a better set of applications, has more features, is easier to use and is newbie friendly.

Explain please!

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

We mustn't forget that Ubuntu is supposed to be an operating system designed keeping newbies, not pros in mind. So if thats what its scope is, I would HAVE to say Mint is better.

Look at the following factors:

1. Debian has the simplest and easiest package manager
2. Gnome is the most newbie friendly environment
3. Ubuntu is an OS with excellent commercial support
4. There exist few newbie friendly Debian/Gnome based OSes except Ubuntu and company.
5. Ubuntu is restricted by American copyright laws and African design laws.
6. Ubuntu is based on debian as an easy to use OS
7. Mint is designed as what ubuntu should be
8. Mint has no american copyright issues

CLEARLY MINT IS THE WINNER OF THE MOST NEWBIE FRIENDLY OS EVER

Wow! Those 8 points DO indicate that Mint is the winner

[j1n M@tt]

wow.....a gr8 OS to try out....

[Rahim]

Is it based on Hardy?
I have a separate /home folder, so what command should i use to clean up old Ubuntu configuration files if i install Linux Mint? Should i delete gonf related folders?
Was it gconf-cleaner?

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by Pat

Yes, but I guess you would accept the fact that Ubuntu has made far more contribution to upstream than Mint.

Explain please!



Wow! Those 8 points DO indicate that Mint is the winner

lets put it this way:

mint ubuntu is just more comfortable the first time you use it than vanilla ubuntu.

This makes all the difference, because two operating systems extremely similar inside are so radically different just because of the outer look and feel and friendliness.

[Rahim]

Thanks a lot for the news. After using Ubuntu for a year, now its time to shift to Mint. ( I dont feel the same as MetalHeadGautham, though)

[ranjan2001]

does mint have x64 edition too?

[FilledVoid]

I don't get it . Is there some kind of trend of comparing Ubuntu with every other thing.

this thing beats the crap out of Ubuntu.

What has Ubuntu to do with this thread at all? Next if someone posts a Gentoo review , will you go there and post that this beats the crap out of Ubuntu?

anyway, I am not bad mouthing ubuntu.

Did you even take the time to read the first post you posted on this thread?

Ubuntu is a great OS for Newbies, I fully Agree.

FFS there are tonnes of people who run Ubuntu. I told you before cut the elitist crap. You think Ubuntu is noobish then move on . I seriously doubt the community needs people who nitpicks at the default colour of the wallpaper on the desktop.

Unless you live in a country where every action of yours is copyrighted, like the US, you will have no trouble with Mint. So Ubuntu for americans, Mint for the rest of us

Actions don't get copyrighted, Content does. I'm not even going into this legally cause I think you have no clue what you're talking about.

We mustn't forget that Ubuntu is supposed to be an operating system designed keeping newbies, not pros in mind. So if thats what its scope is, I would HAVE to say Mint is better.

HAHAHA Contradicting your own comparisons.

Post 1.

But Mint beats it because it provides a better set of applications, has more features, is easier to use and is newbie friendly.

Post 2.

We mustn't forget that Ubuntu is supposed to be an operating system designed keeping newbies, not pros in mind. So if thats what its scope is, I would HAVE to say Mint is better.

Either you said Mint is "noob" friendly in the second or is not "noob" friendly in the second. I can't get a clue what you meant cause the sentence makes no sense whatsoever. But in either case it contradicts post 1 or 2. If you think I understood it wrong then explain it better next time.

1. Debian has the simplest and easiest package manager
2. Gnome is the most newbie friendly environment
3. Ubuntu is an OS with excellent commercial support
4. There exist few newbie friendly Debian/Gnome based OSes except Ubuntu and company.
5. Ubuntu is restricted by American copyright laws and African design laws.
6. Ubuntu is based on debian as an easy to use OS
7. Mint is designed as what ubuntu should be
8. Mint has no american copyright issues

I'm not going to compare any of these points just because 5/8 are about Ubuntu and has NOTHING to do with Mint. 1/8th you contradict yourself. Then 2/8th are assumptions considering you haven't used Elyssa and you have not a clue about copyright laws.

To end this may I say. This was never a distro comparison thread. Your " You are a noob if you run Ubuntu, I run Random Distro 101 and is l337" attitude sucks. Do yourself a favour . Buy yourself a clue.

And concluding , Please read this http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/08...-leave-ubuntu/

[cool_techie_tvm]

The last time i tried linux mint, the darn thing wouldnt even boot off my drive

Let me try this release, for i have heard a lot about linux mint and wanna try it

Thanks for the info BTW.

[Faun]

looks cool...downloading tonight and installing over Fedora 9 Gnome: D

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by FilledVoid

I don't get it . Is there some kind of trend of comparing Ubuntu with every other thing.

What has Ubuntu to do with this thread at all? Next if someone posts a Gentoo review , will you go there and post that this beats the crap out of Ubuntu?

Did you even take the time to read the first post you posted on this thread?

FFS there are tonnes of people who run Ubuntu. I told you before cut the elitist crap. You think Ubuntu is noobish then move on . I seriously doubt the community needs people who nitpicks at the default colour of the wallpaper on the desktop.

Actions don't get copyrighted, Content does. I'm not even going into this legally cause I think you have no clue what you're talking about.

HAHAHA Contradicting your own comparisons.

Post 1.

Post 2.

Either you said Mint is "noob" friendly in the second or is not "noob" friendly in the second. I can't get a clue what you meant cause the sentence makes no sense whatsoever. But in either case it contradicts post 1 or 2. If you think I understood it wrong then explain it better next time.

I'm not going to compare any of these points just because 5/8 are about Ubuntu and has NOTHING to do with Mint. 1/8th you contradict yourself. Then 2/8th are assumptions considering you haven't used Elyssa and you have not a clue about copyright laws.

To end this may I say. This was never a distro comparison thread. Your " You are a noob if you run Ubuntu, I run Random Distro 101 and is l337" attitude sucks. Do yourself a favour . Buy yourself a clue.

And concluding , Please read this http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/08...-leave-ubuntu/

Dude, WTF ?

When did I ever tell things the way you describe them ?
You have misquoted me everywhere.
And you are trying to get some other meaning out of what I am saying.
Can't you give it a rest for some time ?

Did I ever say ubuntu sucked ?
Did I ever insult ubuntu runners ?
I love ubuntu.
I think its one of the greatest distros.
Ubuntu is an inspiration for what a radically different distro can do.
Till then, people thought only windows like start button can attract people.
But now Ubuntu is a household name with linux.
Lots and lots of people use Ubuntu.
Finally, some computers preloaded with linux specify OS as Ubuntu 7.10 Linux OS

And I give all this the credit its due.

I hate it when people like you think that just because I am leaving ubuntu it means I hate it and think it sucks and is useless. I am still posting from Ubuntu FYKI and I intend to install debian lenny only later tonight. I am trying to enjoy every last moment with it.(actually, I am also helping anirudh with mac4lin beta testing, as I won't use gnome again.)

If I said mint is better for newbies than ubuntu, does that mean I am bashing ubuntu ?

Better watch your mouth FilledVoid.

[FilledVoid]

When did I ever tell things the way you describe them ?
You have misquoted me everywhere.

I copy pasted them off of your posts.

And you are trying to get some other meaning out of what I am saying.
Can't you give it a rest for some time ?

I see them as posted. Maybe you wanted to convey something else and it came out wrong.

I hate it when people like you think that just because I am leaving ubuntu it means I hate it and think it sucks and is useless.

Personally I'm glad you are leaving the distro .

Better watch your mouth FilledVoid.

Please take your open threats elsewhere. At the most I'd probably get a ban . Yeah great. Being a part of a forum which people like you post utter nonsense isn't exactly fun either.

Let me put it in English for you so you would understand . THIS WAS NEVER ABOUT UBUNTU. (Do you understand this?). Your post makes sounds like every other person who runs Ubuntu some kind of 2 year old. Anyway I have the least desire to try to get any sense into you. If there's something I hate its "Elitist Posers"

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by FilledVoid

I copy pasted them off of your posts.

I see them as posted. Maybe you wanted to convey something else and it came out wrong.

Personally I'm glad you are leaving the distro .

Please take your open threats elsewhere. At the most I'd probably get a ban . Yeah great. Being a part of a forum which people like you post utter nonsense isn't exactly fun either.

Let me put it in English for you so you would understand . THIS WAS NEVER ABOUT UBUNTU. (Do you understand this?). Your post makes sounds like every other person who runs Ubuntu some kind of 2 year old. Anyway I have the least desire to try to get any sense into you. If there's something I hate its "Elitist Posers"

1. I still never said this thread is about ubuntu.

2. I am not elitist. I hate elitists myself.

3. I didn't threaten you the way you think I did. I just said I am pissed off at the way you are interpreting me.

Where do you get such crazy ideas about me ? Do you think I am a guy who hates anything that does not work well on his system ? Do you think I am an anti mainstream elitist ? Do you think I am attempting pwnage of ubuntu ? If you think any of these things, you are grossly mistaken. I am just another guy, and just another standard linux user who has no biases towards anything.

Over here I was appriciating Mint for what it has become and you are taking it to be an insult to ubuntu. If I said Slackware is faster than Fedora does that mean I say fedora is bad ?

I use some unwanted strong language, which I can't help because I write/talk that way.

Anyway, sorry for that outburst. I hope I can control myself next time