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Old 06-06-2008, 06:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default a Newbie's queries about Ubuntu........

I'm starting this thread as I'm new to the Linux world ,and I decided to start with Ubuntu as my first GNU/Linux destro. I made this decision b'coz there r a number of Ubuntu users and fans in Td forum who I hope can help me out with my efforts to become a Linux user. I will be posting all my queries regarding Ubuntu destro here.


To start with, today I tried Ubuntu 7.10 bootable DVD which I got sometime ago from a magazine.

First I want to know the following:
  • If I use Ubuntu as a Bootable OS instead of intalling, wat r the limitations?? Can I install packages onto my windows NTFS partitions, save user settings, etc
  • How can I configure my BSNL WLL net connection b'coz it uses USB dial-up LG modem which needs drivers?
  • Today I ordered Ubuntu CD from Ubuntu website. But I think the numbers of appllications and multimedia codes, etc. available with dat will be limited. Where can I order for a DVD version with full Packages so dat I don't want to dl those from internet later.


Thanks in advance.
NB: All noobs like me r invited to post their Ubuntu queries here, which may help me and others who read this thread.

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Old 06-06-2008, 06:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You mean as a live CD?
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^^yup I tried Live DVD
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well,you can use livecd to connect to internet,browse etc in normal cases.

broadband through USB is least supported in Ubuntu.but ,with livecd you can boot and try the output of "lsusb" in a terminal(Applications>Accessories>Terminal) to see whether it is supported.

there are few drivers available for some usb modems.
the problem is ,manufacturers dont care to support Linux by opening the specifications.the hackers have to make driver modules/source using reverse engineering.
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First I want to know the following:

* If I use Ubuntu as a Bootable OS instead of intalling, wat r the limitations?? Can I install packages onto my windows NTFS partitions, save user settings, etc
* How can I configure my BSNL WLL net connection b'coz it uses USB dial-up LG modem which needs drivers?
The main disadvantage is that it will be slow. Other than that you should be able to do the rest,. If I recall right theres a way to save your settings and documents etc . Unfortunaltey IM not sure how the modem part will work out though .

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* Today I ordered Ubuntu CD from Ubuntu website. But I think the numbers of appllications and multimedia codes, etc. available with dat will be limited. Where can I order for a DVD version with full Packages so dat I don't want to dl those from internet later.
I have the 64 bit version. if you want that I can write it and send with the aptoncd I have.
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^^thanx guys.

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I just tried 'lsusb' cmd in the terminal, it listed details abt all usb devise on my system....among dat it also displayed my LG modem as:

Bus 002 Device 003:ID 1004:6000 LG Electronics, VX4400/VX6000 Cellphone

can I configure this someway?

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If I use 64-bit version, r there many supported apps for 64bit platform?
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If I use 64-bit version, r there many supported apps for 64bit platform?
Well all apps I need are there but if you have other choices than it might vary .
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suggest some media players for Ubuntu plz........dat default players of Ubuntu says I need to get codes for playing MP3 and .avi file
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do a fresh install. much better nd faster.
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I know it will be faster if I install instead of going with Live disk....now am not having enuf space on my HDD for a full installation, will try to create some free space soon.....I will wait till my copy of Ubuntu reach me through postal.

BTW....where can I dl some codes for .mp3 and .avi ?

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You need to have the codecs installed. For that you need to download them or in other words install them. I think just installing ubuntu-restricted-extras fixes that. but then again you need to download it. Otherwise you could try Mint and it comes with it by default.
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where can I download codes??
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http://www.ubuntuguide.org =this will show you
if you try to play some mp3 or wma audio using totem player -it will ask you to download packages.yeah ,u need internet.

first configure net on your Linux box.then we will think of other things
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^^thanx

but still trying to configure my BSNL WLL connection........
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can anyone suggest a gud book for learning Ubuntu or Debian based OS??? some standard books like a Complete Reference or a Bible or something like dat.........
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dont buy any book.first familiarize with GNU/Linux. it is very tough for a windows user to move completely to GNU/Linux.take your time!.dual boot until then use online resources.books are simply waste of money.even if you buy ,dont spend more than Rs 100 for a Linux guide
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ic.....thanx for the guidance

BTW.....I was thinking of installing Ubuntu 8.04 CD version in VMware, so it can be connected to net by virtual LAN using my BSNL WLL connection. Hw abt it??
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Yeah, there's a couple of books on ubuntu. Then there's a few on debian too. What level are you looking for?
Here are a few that are available at Computer Bookshop in Mumbai. You will have to look for yourself if you're elsewhere.
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@jinsu:there are many entry level books available at mindstorm book stall ernakulam(near north).if you go EKM anytime soon ,do try there
also digit gave out a "fast track to linux" book in a past issue.
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hmm let me try........where r those fast tracks?? I usually ditched all fast track issues......never tried to read them. But this one......I will
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Check out this also : https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/deskt...e/C/index.html . Definitely not a Bible but should help you get started.
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hmm.....dats a quick gud reference.....

hey.........I just installed a Debian pendrive linux to my Corsair 4GB.........am now browsing from it
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When v install most of these Linux boxes......why they don't need any device drivers for working? my on-board Realtek audio and on-board grfx works without drivers......y is it so??
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^drivers are in-built in Linux kernel or as "modules" .way better than window$ way of "next next and next,,,,.... "
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When v install most of these Linux boxes......why they don't need any device drivers for working? my on-board Realtek audio and on-board grfx works without drivers......y is it so??
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but I hav heard there r problems with dedicated gfx card linux drivers..........if I buy those new ATi HD3xxx or HD4xxx cards, will there be any problems?? I hav heard abt poor support for ATi products from Linux distributors.
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