Sabayon Linux and Mepis querries

[SunnyChahal]

Is sabayon linux really the most advanced Linux distro.it looks quite cool!!
Im DLing mepis and sabayon 2nite.Shud i try sabayon linux first or mepis??
PLzz share ur linux and mepis experiences guys

[infra_red_dude]

Mempis is based on debian while Sabayon is based on gentoo. I gues you'd feel more at home in mempis. But sabayon has a slick UI. There is no particular order in which you should try!

But again as a word of advice, try in VM.

[CadCrazy]

Abe bahut uchal raha hai tu aajkal. Pehle Ek distro seekh le aaram se.

[SunnyChahal]

Originally Posted by CadCrazy

Abe bahut uchal raha hai tu aajkal. Pehle Ek distro seekh le aaram se.

ubuntu to ab hardy hi try karunga.
Ubuntu to try kar liya

@infra-i know mepis is like kubunu,in fact better than kubuntu but is sabyton really the most advanced linux distro?

[infra_red_dude]

I don't consider an OS/Distro as the "most advanced"! How can you normalize distros?

[aditya.shevade]

@Sunny, people tend to call that to Sabayon because it comes with all the codecs and polished UI. Apart from that, I don't see anything that Sabayon can do that others can't.

[Dark Star]

As far as Sabayon goes.. It has gr8 ATI support .. now it has got ATI CC by deafult.. . Sabayon has Portato Package manager.. which will get replaced in next release. Portato is good but pretty confusing .. Once you get used to it, its child's play.. Sabayon has gpt gr8 games and it has got multimedia out of teh box.. it has gr8 wifi support thats all makes Sabayon a perfect desktop but Sabayon always seems to be sluggish.. atleast in my system :

[mehulved]

Gentoo has a great package management system called portage but it is something that has a steep learning curve. Then again, sabayon is based on gentoo unstable. That is, the most cutting edge distro. That is the actual reason why sabayon is called most advanced distro. But, the price you pay for it is that you won't be able to update or install anything by yourself without going through a lot of hassles initially. You will need to learn a lot of things. But, gentoo is worth it all.
But, if you want to take small steps then better go with mepis.

[SunnyChahal]

both are DLed.OMG!!5.7GB DLed that that too when i started at 1AM!
ok which one to install mepis or sabayon?

[mehulved]

Your take.
Sabayon = most cutting edge but you won't be able to update anything till next release. you may not be able to install anything expect in the dvd, either, huge amount of software out of the box
mepis = comparatively older, easier to use apt to manage softwares, may miss latest version of certain drivers and softwares which you may need especially if you have very new hardware, smaller learning curve.

[SunnyChahal]

Originally Posted by mehulved

Your take.
Sabayon = most cutting edge but you won't be able to update anything till next release. you may not be able to install anything expect in the dvd, either, huge amount of software out of the box
mepis = comparatively older, easier to use apt to manage softwares, may miss latest version of certain drivers and softwares which you may need especially if you have very new hardware, smaller learning curve.

Y wont i be able to DL updates and SWs on sabayon?

[mehulved]

You can but it will be more difficult as portage has a higher learning curve. And entropy isn't yet stable.

[SunnyChahal]

Holy sh1t!!!neither sabayon nor mepis is booting from the live CD but both are booting on my bro's P4,7600 GS
I think i must stick to vista x64 and use ubuntu hardy only.

[mehulved]

Hmm. Explain not booting? Is your optical disk the first boot device?

[praka123]

wtf?mepis and sabayon will sure work!

[SunnyChahal]

sabyton goes makes the monitor go i standby mode coz of my sucky gpu and mepis shows command line!

[infra_red_dude]

I haf the same problem with sabayon too. It doesn't boot on my 8500gt. I think the 8 series nvidia gfx cards haf some allergy with certain linux distros.

[Manshahia]

is slackware different from sabayon?

[FilledVoid]

is slackware different from sabayon?

They are two different distros. I can use Sabayon on VirtualBox But I havent tried installing it yet.

[praka123]

slackware is NOT a n00b friendly distro.also,installing slackware can be said as a "crash course" to Linux
-same can be said with gentoo too!-

[Manshahia]

^^
got the feeling.. :d
tried installing it but there was no GUI..
installation was thru commands so dropped the idea of installing it ..

[mehulved]

Haha. Don't even come near slackware install unless you know what you're getting into. You're sureshot gonna wipe your hard disk clean while attempting to partition via the all mighty fdisk. Rest of the install is not that difficult. But, then the fun starts, once your install is over.

[infra_red_dude]

Originally Posted by mehulved

Haha. Don't even come near slackware install unless you know what you're getting into. You're sureshot gonna wipe your hard disk clean while attempting to partition via the all mighty fdisk. Rest of the install is not that difficult. But, then the fun starts, once your install is over.

Don't scare the kid!!! Slackware is not as bad/noob unfriendly as all make it appear to be!

[MetalheadGautham]

^^Dude, I am the one who gets to say how n00b friendly it really is, as I will be soon finishing my Slackware 12 DVD Torrent download. Already ~18% is over. Few more nights needed.

Do you think I can handle slackware ?

[SunnyChahal]

I think i shud try Kubuntu.I can use only 2 distros -ubuntu and kubuntu.Ill mess up with all others.
Dling kubuntu alternate

[mediator]

Originally Posted by metal

^^Dude, I am the one who gets to say how n00b friendly it really is, as I will be soon finishing my Slackware 12 DVD Torrent download. Already ~18% is over. Few more nights needed.

Do you think I can handle slackware ?

U r a "full grown man" now with loadzz of "experience" in this "hungry" world. Ofcors u can handle it. Just take it slowly, calmly and carefully!

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by mediator

U r a "full grown man" now with loadzz of "experience" in this "hungry" world. Ofcors u can handle it. Just take it slowly, calmly and carefully!

the problem is, I still don't have a driving licence. I still use my Learners Licence on a damaged car.

PS: I hope you know what I mean

[infra_red_dude]

I dunno why everyone feels slackware is noob-unfriendly. The first distro I ever installed (i think it was may 1996 or so) was slackware! with all the blue + cyan bg/fg colors and white text

The problem is that we all are so much used to ubuntu/windows etc. that we feel stuff like core debian, slackware, gentoo is tuff. That logic is wrong.

[mehulved]

Originally Posted by infra_red_dude

Don't scare the kid!!! Slackware is not as bad/noob unfriendly as all make it appear to be!

First time I tried slackware. I had to partition all of 17 times and spent 4 hours figuring out fdisk! Thankfully I had a fully formatted disk to play with.
Then comes the part, when you boot up right into a scary dark black console. No GUI straight up. Now, most of them will login as root. So, another reason why I don't recommend slackware.
Then comes package management. And worse of all handling config files. That will be fun. And if they have a nvidia or ati driver, they will prolly have to recompile the kernel, GOD SAVE THEM. I spent a whole week before my exams trying to compile something I don't remember now. That was what really got me started in this forum.
I guess only person to land on this forum who has used slackware longer than me is Satish.

[infra_red_dude]

Originally Posted by mehulved

First time I tried slackware. I had to partition all of 17 times and spent 4 hours figuring out fdisk! Thankfully I had a fully formatted disk to play with.
Then comes the part, when you boot up right into a scary dark black console. No GUI straight up. Now, most of them will login as root. So, another reason why I don't recommend slackware.
Then comes package management. And worse of all handling config files. That will be fun. And if they have a nvidia or ati driver, they will prolly have to recompile the kernel, GOD SAVE THEM. I spent a whole week before my exams trying to compile something I don't remember now. That was what really got me started in this forum.
I guess only person to land on this forum who has used slackware longer than me is Satish.

Yes, I fully agree with you on the Drivers part.

But root login and stuff.. I think all that "no root login" craze started after Ubuntu came with the idea... su, sudo, no-root-login weren't this popular before.