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Old 02-01-2008, 03:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Flipping the Linux switch: KDE, the K desktop environment

Posted Dec 30th 2007 7:00PM by Kristin Shoemaker



There's one thing for certain: Now is an exciting time to be a KDE user. The much anticipated launch of KDE 4 is slated for January 11th, 2008. This is a major revamp of the look and feel of the KDE desktop, with the inclusion of a built-in compositor (think eye candy) and something called "plasmoids" (little functional widgets embedded into your desktop).

It's a lot of new bling aimed at improving the desktop experience. Will it? More importantly, will it for you? What would make you choose KDE over GNOME (or vice versa)? This week we take a brief look at KDE in both its 3.5.x and 4 incarnations, and outline a few rules of thumb on choosing your desktop environment.

Let's take a quick look at KDE's history and underpinnings. KDE was launched in 1996 and is based on the Qt (pronounced "cute") toolkit. (A toolkit is a set of libraries of the things that make up a graphical user interface -- things like windows, buttons and their functions.) But all was not right with the world. Qt, at that time, didn't use a completely free software license. This caused some concern about the legality of linking to Qt libraries, and the Debian distribution even went so far as to remove KDE from their repositories for a time.

Currently, Qt uses a dual license. The toolkit is available under the GPL (GNU General Public License) and the QPL (Q Public License), and linking to the Qt libraries is no longer an issue.KDE looks a bit more Windows-like than GNOME, but has some quirks that puzzle new users. The K Menu, both in KDE 3.5.x and 4, is similar to the Windows "Start" menu. KDE is usually arranged with a bottom panel, featuring the K Menu button, and a few frequently accessed applications (such as your home folder and Konqueror, KDE's native web browser). The panel often has a system tray and a list of open windows and desktop workspaces.

In KDE 4, the K Menu (among other things) got a radical makeover. The menu is divided into two parts, a lower panel consisting of several buttons: Favorites, Applications, My Computer, Recently Used and Leave (a really inelegant way of saying "shutdown menu"). The upper panel features animated menus depending on what is selected on the lower panel. Here you can see the Applications icon highlighted, with the Office applications loaded. It takes some getting used to (and is still a release candidate at the time of this post), but it is appealing to those who enjoy putting their own mark on the aesthetics and function of their desktop.

KDE is known for being highly customizable, both in terms of how the desktop looks and behaves, and how it ultimately handles the hardware on the system. The good news for you as a new Linux user is the amount of control you'll have over the desktop. You'll be able to configure things to look and act exactly as you want. The bad news? The amount of control you have can be puzzling to the point of frustration.

For example, setting up a printer in KDE opens a printer configuration window. Adding a new printer opens a wizard that walks you through the process. You'll find there are a lot of extra configuration options outside the wizard. It's safe to say many of them you won't need to worry about. It can be disconcerting to have that many options initially, but those who need their system fine-tuned will appreciate it.

What about the native Qt applications in KDE? Can GTK+ applications be used with KDE? Yes, but like Qt applications in GNOME, most like to keep this to a minimum. In general, we've found it causes less conflict and slow-down on the system to install GTK+ applications in KDE than it does to install Qt applications in GNOME.

Konqueror is the native KDE web browser. Firefox and other Mozilla based browsers, should you prefer them, work quite well in KDE. Dolphin was recently rolled out to replace Konqueror as KDE's file manager. With split-view folder browsing (and dragging and dropping across panes), you won't miss Windows Explorer at all.

KDE has a personal information manager suite, Kontact, consisting of KMail (an email client), a calendar, journal, note taker and the feed reader Akregator.

Digikam supports a variety of digital cameras, and is roughly equivalent to GNOME's gtkam. Through the use of kipi-plugins, you can easily use Digikam to archive photos to CD or DVD or upload to Flickr. Krita is the KDE photo-editing program. (We admit to using GIMP in place of Krita for most editing applications.)

KOffice is KDE's office suite, consisting of a word processor, spreadsheet, presentation and database application. There is also a Visio equivalent, and a vector graphic drawing application. OpenOffice, should you prefer it, integrates nicely with KDE. The desktop has two text editors, KWrite and Kate. We prefer Kate for most text editing tasks.

Multimedia files are handled with Kaffeine (video) and Amarok (audio). KDE also features the handy K3b burning application, which burns audio, video and data disks, as well as disk images.

Our advice to new Linux users who have little interest in looking "under the hood" of their computers, or who use their computer for straight web browsing, word processing and photo editing would be to try GNOME first. Former Windows (and Mac) "power users" will most likely want to start with KDE. We'd also encourage those who have computing requirements that are a little out of the ordinary to try KDE first, due to the level of customization it allows through the GUI. Before you make your decision, think about the programs that are associated with each desktop environment, and what you'd want to add on after the fact. If you find one toolkit's programs fit your work habits better than the other's, install the desktop with the most appealing applications.

GNOME or KDE? It might be GNOME this year, KDE the next, and Xfce after that. The beauty of Linux is that you're not tied to one desktop environment, or even to one distribution. You're free to have the system that works best for you.

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Is there any way to have KDE as default desktop environment for gutsy.??Wanna try it out and compare it with Gnome.!!
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^^^ Install the kde-desktop metapackage. You will haf both GNOME and KDE then. But that will require you to download quite some packages and you will be getting only 3.5; not 4.0Beta.
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The only thing I like about KDE is their app's like Amarok , K3 and a few more But the naming scheme ****** and the interface looks tad gaudy I mean will KDE 3.5x
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^^^ Install the kde-desktop metapackage. You will haf both GNOME and KDE then. But that will require you to download quite some packages and you will be getting only 3.5; not 4.0Beta.
Nah, with KDE 4 release just 10 days away, I don't want to get stuck with 3.5.So I will try it out only after KDE 4 releases.
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Default Re: Flipping the Linux switch: KDE, the K desktop environment

Covering The Rundown to KDE 4 release on my blog: http://sathyasays.com/2008/01/02/the...ual-eye-candy/

PS: Have been huge fan of the SLAB menu since it was first introduced in openSUSE 10.2
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Waiting for the release of the Final Version!
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Nah, with KDE 4 release just 10 days away, I don't want to get stuck with 3.5.So I will try it out only after KDE 4 releases.
If you were to install KDE on Ubuntu you would have to install the default which comes with it which is 3.5 and then upgrade to 4.0 ? Or is there a simpler way. Personally I wouldn't try it till a few months have passed since something tells me theres going to be quite a few bugs. Someone was talking about a Live CD version based on KDE 4 in the Ubuntu IRC channel . Anyone know what the person was referring too.
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^just search ubuntuforums.org there may be custom repositories hosting Kde4rc's.and dont expect ubuntu guys to soon give kde4 in gutsy!afaik they need to backport from testing distro(hardy?)
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up, with an M2N MXSE onboard gfx, he can have a Sm 3.0 gfx nd features which is worth the price of 2.5k. It is decent enuf if not into gaming. And u can get nvidia driver supports in linux too as they have unified drivers.
Thank you that makes sense . Prakash when you get time don't forget to download a AMD64 Ubuntu Hardy Heron (DVD) distro when it comes out
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I've always felt KDE was too bloated.And now KDE 4 is even more bloated.
Xfce seems just right for me.

Thanks the info praka123.

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I've always felt KDE was too bloated.And now KDE 4 is even more bloated.
I agree with this but from stuff Ive been hearing it seems that KDE apps seems to work better than its counterparts in Gnome. An Example would be Bluetooth tools.
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^dont ever say that kde is bloated!many boys cannot accept that!they find Gnome bloated and Gnome must be killed as kde licensed under GPL and the birth of Gnome was due to kde's proprietary licensing earlier was!
lesson:Kde ppl may be blind when i read in European forums,where kde ppl are comparing Gnome similar to windows gui and we all know the obvious that kde is almost a win look a like!
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KDE has too many options.
I dont know why people recommend it for newbies.
I started out with Xandros 1.0 i think and KDE was what scared me.
Migrated to Vector from there and found Xfce to be the best.

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I've always felt KDE was too bloated.And now KDE 4 is even more bloated.
Xfce seems just right for me.
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Uh, Dude thats a completely personal opinion.
Read it again and u'll see its completely from my point of view and my experiences.
I am not saying KDE is bloated , I am saying i felt it was bloated and has too many options.

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