Non-Ubuntu users!!

[Hitboxx]

Hey guys,

Its a discussion, not a war or anti-Ubuntu topic.

I've seen a lot of Ubuntu related discussion here but never any other distros. Out of curiosity where are them?

I've experimented with Ubuntu/Debian long back just for the sake of it, thats all. Never used it regularly and probably never will.

So here it goes, How many of you don't use Ubuntu?

I'm on Fedora 8 x86_64. [..this is my comfort zone..]


Edit: Can't add the poll now as I've already submitted the thread and also I guess non-Linux users will simply vote in it just for the heck of it.

[ray|raven]

I personally use Zenwalk Linux / DreamLinux on my system.

Oh and why not a poll?

Regards,
ray

[SunnyChahal]

^^
yeah a poll wud be gr8.add it.
BTW i use linuxmint which is a mod of ubuntu.it is faaar better than windows.

[The_Devil_Himself]

not many cos Ubuntu has a great great community+free shipit service.
It is more likely that your all problems will be solved if You use ubuntu and not to forget the general superiority of debian based distros.

[Tech_Wiz]

1. Debian based >>> Redhat Based / Slackware based

2. OS with Lesser Bugs / more hardware support / more community support are favoured in linux world.

So Ubuntu / Mint / Debian all the way

ps: I used Debian based Distros in most of my Linux Life. Tried Redhat based ones but was kocked of by bugged packages and support issues.

[infra_red_dude]

The reason why I left Fedora was lack of apt-get and dependency problems. Again, its just personal opinion. And I agree to the fact that Ubuntu community is the most active of all.

[MetalheadGautham]

You have the folowing (popular) catogaries of Linux based OSes:


1. Debian Based - debian, ubuntu, mint, gos, linspire/freespire, xandros, etc etc etc
they are known for their stability and reliability. Ubuntu is just the most popular of them all. And yes, ppl use them mainly because of the superior .deb packaging system.

2. Gentoo Based - gentoo, sabayon, etc.
these are for all types of computers, because they need you(not compulsary) to compile software before installing, due to which there will be better adaptation of the OS to the computer.

3. Red Hat Based - Fedora, RHEL, SuSE, Mandriva, etc, etc:
these are the second most popular type, also the oldest. Known for their signature RPM packaging, they have a huge user base in the US governmental offices. These are not as much used as the debians due to the RPM problems. But they are still popular.

4. Slackware based - vector, slackware, slax, etc
known for their legendary server use, slackware distros are good for low end hardware. Vector Linux is an excellent example why.

several derivatives have sub derivatives too, and this keeps us entertained.

each of these above families have their shortcommings, but the user base is mainly affected by the following:

eye-candy
security
GUI apps available
expandabiliy
stability
near by users(freinds, etc)

the security is almost the same, but the rest are responcible for the wide variety of users.

So yes, choices do differ and we are a happy family because of the same reason. In the linux world, we still have freedom of choice. I would not mind having a flame war within, because atleast this time, the battlefeild would be more level, and things only get intresting here.

[Hitboxx]

Originally Posted by infra_red_dude

The reason why I left Fedora was lack of apt-get and dependency problems. Again, its just personal opinion. And I agree to the fact that Ubuntu community is the most active of all.

Agree but what was the last version you used? I've seen Fedora since 5 and it has tremendously improved over the years(er.,, all the others have too).

What I mean is, I've rarely seen any dep issues since 2 years, and besides, you can use apt-get on it also. All the commands and functions are the same as in any other .deb distro. And the latest yum in 8 is so fast, I would say almost as apt-get.

And not to sound spiroylic, but Fedora 64 performs better than Ubuntu 64, I dunno how to say it, but 64bit users will know this. (those who've tried both)

Again, its a personal preference, heck., as long as its Linux

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by Hitboxx

Agree but what was the last version you used? I've seen Fedora since 5 and it has tremendously improved over the years(er.,, all the others have too).
What I mean is, I've rarely seen any dep issues since 2 years, and besides, you can use apt-get on it also. All the commands and functions are the same as in any other .deb distro. And the latest yum in 8 is so fast, I would say almost as apt-get.

do you mean that I should install my Fedora 8 DVD and not my Ubuntu 7.10 DVD? I could still give fedora a try before Hardy Heron comes...

Originally Posted by Hitboxx

Again, its a personal preference, heck., as long as its Linux

right on point

[ray|raven]

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

Fedora, RHEL, SuSE, Mandriva, etc, etc:
these are the second most popular type, also the oldest.

Slackware is the oldest linux distribution still being maintained.Not Redhat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slackware

Regards,
ray

[Hitboxx]

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

do you mean that I should install my Fedora 8 DVD and not my Ubuntu 7.10 DVD? I could still give fedora a try before Hardy Heron comes...

lol., Why not try them both for a few days?

Both have their learning curves and you need an open unbiased mind to test them. Ubuntu definitely has an upfront out-of-the-box aura to it.

How do you think I stuck with Fedora? It wasn't my first distro and won't be the last. I've seen Ubuntu up close too and ironically I left it because of some hardware issues then, which Fedora handled with aplomb. I'm sure those issues are rectified now in Ubuntu.

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by rayraven

Slackware is the oldest linux distribution still being maintained.Not Redhat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slackware

sorry bout that. forgot.

Originally Posted by Hitboxx

lol., Why not try them both for a few days?

Both have their learning curves and you need an open unbiased mind to test them. Ubuntu definitely has an upfront out-of-the-box aura to it.

How do you think I stuck with Fedora? It wasn't my first distro and won't be the last. I've seen Ubuntu up close too and ironically I left it because of some hardware issues then, which Fedora handled with aplomb. I'm sure those issues are rectified now in Ubuntu.

1. I can't keep reinstalling distros on my PC because its old, and has lots of sensitive data which I don't want damaged.

2. With 256 MB DDR 400 RAM, and P4 2.66 GHz with GMA 900, do you think either will work well?

3. Both have Gnome, so their learning curves are similar. So my FF experience will help.

3. Please see my question about the DVD drive in my Ubuntu thread

[SunnyChahal]

Offtoic:@metalheadgautham-just got fedora 8 with linux for you mag.
is it beter than mint 4.0??
do i install it??

[Hitboxx]

@Gautham

1. You trust an old PC with lots of sensitive data..? at the rate of hard drive failures these days?

2. I guess they should, processor part is ok, RAM is...ok too, not sure. Never know till you try

3. Not Gnome, I meant the day-to-day working, installing apps, maintaining files etc.

4(3). Posted there.

[kalpik]

My main reason of using ubuntu is their repositories. I mean they have EVERYTHING in their repos! I have to manually download and install a LOT of stuff on fedora, like java, checkgmail, virtualbox etc..

[Hitboxx]

Originally Posted by Sunny1211993

Offtoic:@metalheadgautham-just got fedora 8 with linux for you mag.
is it beter than mint 4.0??
do i install it??

It is better than Mint 4, but it won't be out-of-the-box like Mint and you need to still install codecs and plugins from the net repos.

[SunnyChahal]

^^
in what aspects is it better?

[anantkhaitan]

I am on Fedora not because I dislike others but i am comfortable with it.

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by Sunny1211993

^^
in what aspects is it better?

Usual questions:

1. state system config
2. state type of internet connectivity(if any)
3. state level of experience with Linux
4. state perpose of the OS(the things you plan to do with it)

[infra_red_dude]

Last I used was Fedora 5. Then jumped to Ubuntu camp and haf stuck here primarily coz of the community and .deb packages. I'm now comfortable with it.

[SunnyChahal]

@metalheadgautham
1.u know my config yaar.im abtom.
ok here it is- 2*1GB DDR2 Ram,Pentium D 3.4Ghz,8600 GT 256MB,Intel 945 GCCR Mobo,320 GB HDD from which only 10-12 GBs ae left.
ill have to uninstall mint so that i cud install fedora.
2.2Mbps net ,will be 256K in 1 month or so.i think thats gud enuf.
3.Very less experince with linux.can set up a connection in debian based distros only.i know nothing more abt terminal.
4.listening to songs,watching movies,surfing,chatting and gaming(freeware linux ones like openarena.)

[FilledVoid]

I would have tried FC recently but the problems are I dont have a AMD64 version and gary4gar said he had to download 800 updates :O which would make me cry on my crippled connection.

[Hitboxx]

Originally Posted by kalpik

My main reason of using ubuntu is their repositories. I mean they have EVERYTHING in their repos! I have to manually download and install a LOT of stuff on fedora, like java, checkgmail, virtualbox etc..

...Which is the one of the many reasons(the no.1 being its Marketing) why its the most popular distro out there.

But to an experienced Linux user(like me), it won't really matter if its auto or manual, all they know to do is drive

Originally Posted by exx_2000

I would have tried FC recently but the problems are I dont have a AMD64 version and gary4gar said he had to download 800 updates :O which would make me cry on my crippled connection.

I can understand it will be very hard for you. But AMD64? Are you trying 64bit Fedora? What about 32?

[kalpik]

There are a lot of other minor things too! Like java is a problem.. I managed to get it to work, but then it just plain stopped working after a reboot Also the libnotify popups are a little too large for me.. Hehe.. call me finicky but some of the regulars would know how often i do distro hopping, but always manage to come back to ubuntu

[FilledVoid]

Why try 32 bit when your processor supports 64 bit .

[Hitboxx]

Originally Posted by exx_2000

Why try 32 bit when your processor supports 64 bit .

Erm.,and you think 64bit is like heaven or something..

No, there isn't a lot of difference yet, only minute changes. Plus you need to shake a foot and a leg in 64bit coz of flash and java issues. But since you would just like to try, 32 is sufficient, I guess.

[mediator]

I use both many times Fedora (Deskt.) and sometimes Ubuntu (Lap.). But Ubuntu isn't as rock solid as Fedora! FC3 to FC5 and the feeling of being a poweruser still remains intact, the reason for which I left Windows a long time back! Even on doing ssh in and out Fedora gives instant results whereas Ubuntu gives 2-3 seconds delay!

Ubuntu is nice. Boot up time of both are almost same, but working on Fedora gives the charm, the realtime experience and performance. But again its the individual experience!

Originally Posted by hitboxx

Agree but what was the last version you used? I've seen Fedora since 5 and it has tremendously improved over the years(er.,, all the others have too).

What I mean is, I've rarely seen any dep issues since 2 years, and besides, you can use apt-get on it also. All the commands and functions are the same as in any other .deb distro. And the latest yum in 8 is so fast, I would say almost as apt-get.

And not to sound spiroylic, but Fedora 64 performs better than Ubuntu 64, I dunno how to say it, but 64bit users will know this. (those who've tried both)

Again, its a personal preference, heck., as long as its Linux

+1

[FilledVoid]

No, there isn't a lot of difference yet, only minute changes. Plus you need to shake a foot and a leg in 64bit coz of flash and java issues. But since you would just like to try, 32 is sufficient, I guess.

Well its like getting a cycle and pedaling all the way up an Interstate Highway while you have a Benz in your garage. Further all 64 bit versions seems to have lack in some area for some reason. I dont get it shouldnt more preference be given to 64 bit OS considering that a majority of processors come out as 64 bit ?

[Hitboxx]

Yes, 64bit is catching on, but it will need more time I guess. I had read an article about the same sometime back and it had pretty neat explanation. Let me search if I had bookmarked it, will post the link here later.

[praka123]

Debian is what am sticking with.not even ubuntu which i uses regularly!ubuntu is just there in my partition with all 3D effects enabled,just to show to windows fanboys who tries my pc .
The main thing any distro should focus is on package management and quality,correct dependecy list generation etc.Debian got automated tools for creating .debs and apt+dpkg or wajig will be very much userfriendly than a windows s/w uninstaller or redhat/fedora or gentoo/slackware ones

yeah,Ive started with redhat 7.2 after shifting to linux.many things are much superior in fedora than ubuntu,i agree,still the rpm deps hell makes it impossible
for that matter i ran fedora4 too last.
I appreciates redhat's tools for network and enterprises solutions.but a Desktop user may be comfortable with ubuntu,or those who like to try it pure Debian like me run Debian Sid