Linux is Pain!!!

[Tech_Wiz]

For Guys who doesnt have internet at home.

Default installs of any distro lacks few programs that are very much needed mainly Multi Media and Updated Drivres.

In case of interent connection its so easy.. Just add to source list and run synaptic Yast, apt-get etc..

But if you dont have internet then its a nightmare to install the simplest of softwares.

Go search repositories for the .deb and then when it begins to install it asks for a zillion dependancy Files whos names are often freraking long. Then you again go to cafe looking for them and then come their own dependancy and **** blabla

I am tired of this....giving up on linux till I get internet.. Current distros are NOT running on my PC out of the box and need some "Third Party" software / drivers to be instaled which is again real pain [refer above ]

I am feeling sick

[Cool G5]

Try Linux Mint.
It has all necessary codecs for multimedia.
Also due to reasons,linux cannot bundle proprietary softwares in the distros.

[azzu]

^^ Did u Tried Mint??
didnt u ?? first of all try the linux which suites u
i hav a Dailup which Low speed's still i dint downloaded any thin for my mint and its in Mint condition
u gotta select the best llinux which suites u better first

[ray|raven]

Yeah,Or get Sabayon DVD or Ubuntu Ultimate.
I Think they come with codecs and restricted drivers.

Regards,
ray

[Tech_Wiz]

The ISO Thing of following ditros is tested & FAILED on my hardware:

1. Debian ETCH 4.0
2. Suse 10.2, 10.3
3. Linux Mint
4. Vector Linux
5. Fedora 7

Some how Ubuntu 7.04 Worked but the CD has practically nothing useful other than basic system to be honest.

Ubuntu Ultimate? Whats that. Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu and stuff I read but what Ultimate edition? I bet i have to throw good bucks for that as anything "Ultimate" costs bombs.

[ray|raven]

Lolz....No.
Ubuntu Ultimate is free too.
Get it here : http://ubuntusoftware.info/ultimate/

It contains all the codecs and restricted drivers

Regards,
ray

[Tech_Wiz]

Checking it now

Oh man it looks good but.... 2.3 GB Download

Also pretty old kernel / distro and no built in support for my nVidia Card.

[ray|raven]

Ubuntu Ultimate isnt updated for the latest release.
Also,IMO its better for you to go for Sabayon instead of Ubuntu Ultimate.
http://www.sabayonlinux.org/

Regards,
ray

[Tech_Wiz]

Sabayon seems to have all the drivers needed to get my system online.

I go check where I can get one DVD of it..

**Fingures Crossed in Hope that it ll work**

[ray|raven]

G'Luck Mate.
May the force be with you

Regards,
ray

[FilledVoid]

or Guys who doesnt have internet at home.

Default installs of any distro lacks few programs that are very much needed mainly Multi Media and Updated Drivres.

In case of interent connection its so easy.. Just add to source list and run synaptic Yast, apt-get etc..

But if you dont have internet then its a nightmare to install the simplest of softwares.

Go search repositories for the .deb and then when it begins to install it asks for a zillion dependancy Files whos names are often freraking long. Then you again go to cafe looking for them and then come their own dependancy and **** blabla

I am tired of this....giving up on linux till I get internet.. Current distros are NOT running on my PC out of the box and need some "Third Party" software / drivers to be instaled which is again real pain [refer above ]

I am feeling sick

Im sorry to hear that Tech_Wiz. but with the help of a couple here at the Forums I was able to install everything (and i mean everything ) . Ubuntu AMD64 DVD detected everything including my TV Tuner card. now I must mention that Windows XP didnt even do that.

Hope this helps.

[azzu]

^^ nice to hear it
kool

[praka123]

congrats @exx_2000 sure u have used boot options like noapic noacpi nolapic irqpoll something.right?
what about java,flash9 etc.did u had it installed?share some tips here for 64bit AMD users.
Also dude,make ur friends too aware of Linux and give copies.I have DVD image of gutsy-i386 for intel too if someone in kerala wants.spread Linux to all.we in kerala mostly knows linux due to syllabus.

[FilledVoid]

congrats @exx_2000 sure u have used boot options like noapic noacpi nolapic irqpoll something.right?
what about java,flash9 etc.did u had it installed?share some tips here for 64bit AMD users.Also dude,make ur friends too aware of Linux and give copies.I have DVD image of gutsy-i386 for intel too if someone in kerala wants.spread Linux to all.we in kerala mostly knows linux due to syllabus.

Thanks for the DVD Prakash. I actually just installed it with one drive in the beginning and then connected the IDE later. Had to edit root (hd0,0) to root (hd1,0) . But then again the first install on the IDE drive was perfect. Everything was working fine till I realized that I had installed it on my IDE and not PATA drive.

If I ran a DVD burner program and copy the same DVD would it work? Thinking of installing it on a network where I work for students . Of course I'll need to read some before I implement it on a larger scale.

Will post experiences after some time working with it . Maybe a Document showing the process I used to install and get this running as well.

[praka123]

u can make an image of the dvd.use isomaster gui. else use "dd" to make an iso.then check with the md5sum given in original gutsy dvd.

sure.post a howto for 64-bit users.BTW,are you teaching?which subject?Linux too?

[FilledVoid]

Not a teacher. More of a Computer technician guy who pretty manages a small Colleges network (Not a big deal its a Distance Education college) . Previously worked with a company that provided support for Microsoft products and other software (lol yes I know thats kind of ironic) . At the moment doing my MCA through distance Education.

Will make a copy of the Distro and try to get some to convert of course. im pretty sure some of my friends will . One of them already borrowed my USB stick to try NimbleX .

[faraaz]

Yeah I agree with you...but answer me this...when you have an Operating System that is distributed 95% ... hell, 99% over the internet...software for which distribution is done online, and for an OS which, nice though it is, is fragmented like hell, with a billion different package management systems...WTF do you expect?

[Garbage]

@ exx_2000
Can u please post the steps which u used to install Ubuntu on AMD 64 ??

I have a HP dv6000 Laptop. I can't install Ubuntu 7.04 on it.
It is having AMD Turion 64.

[aditya.shevade]

I think people would not agree, but from my experience.... Use knoppix. Install it on hardware with no net access. I have been using one on my old box and it works cool.

[Tech_Wiz]

Well Good News..

Ubuntu 7.04 Worked on my PC. Had a Debian Multimedia DVD and the programs worked fine on ubuntu. So I am happy

Ordering 7.10 DVD soon

[Dark Star]

Get Linux Mint or Mandriva and be happy

[Tech_Wiz]

I havent checked with Mandriva Yet but Mint doesnt work on my pc -.-

[phreak0ut]

Recently installed Linux Mint Cassandra KDE, as there are a whole lot more packages than gnome and I swear that I'm VERY happy, but they could do a better job adding the more basic softwares. For example, K3B was missing and I had to download it. Making use of a full 4.5GB of a DVD would be wiser than just 2GB of issuing the distro. Overall, it feels really fresh after having this Mint

[FilledVoid]

I was able to install Ubuntu practically with no hassle at all. I did not find any difficulty. I think its plainly written. Easy to udnerstand. Get the DVD edition if you dont have internet con. Cause even with it you might have to download a couple of things. If you are a person who does number crunching stuff like encoding or DVD/cd writing theres a huge performance increase. All my hardwrae was detected I took my system to the internet cafe near by and I didnt configure anythign and the network was already autodetected and I could see every single machine he has in my Network.

Im wiriting the process I did with pictures but it still a work in progress. If you are a Tv Tuner Card user Check the Chipset model and confirm Linux supports befopre working on it.

Hope this helps.