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Old 12-02-2007, 10:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I hav installed Windows XP on NTFS and Suse 10.2.
Whenever i try to paste something in NTFS partitions(IN LINUX) it says u dont hav permissions to do that.
Then i clicked on drive's properties and checked all of these.
But that didnt solved the problem.
How can i do this??
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Old 12-02-2007, 10:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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What are you using for writing on NTFS? You need some util like ntfs-3g or linux-ntfs(don't remember the exact name). And you need to mount the partition using that driver.
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Can u post ur fstab details? => "more /etc/fstab" !
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need to mount the partition using that driver.
Partitions get mounted automatically on startup.

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Can u post ur fstab details? => "more /etc/fstab" !
Sorry dude i m new to linux.
Waaaaaaaat is It??
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Partitions get mounted automatically on startup.
Oh! I didn't know about that. Thx for telling me.

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Sorry dude i m new to linux.
Waaaaaaaat is It??
He's given the exact command just follow it.
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[quote=TYF}
Dont get it wrong. I was just telling that oveer here they r mounted when i start the system and i can access them.
Is there any other meaning of Mount??
[/quote]

By the way searched in the DVD nd got these software....
1. ntfsprogs Preinstalled on system.
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Description
The Linux-NTFS project (http://linux-ntfs.sf.net/) aims to bring full support for the NTFS filesystem to the Linux operating system. The ntfsprogs package currently consists of a static library and utilities such as mkntfs, ntfscat, ntfsls, ntfsresize, and ntfsundelete (for a full list of included utilities see man 8 ntfsprogs after installation).
2. ntfsprogs-fuse - NTFS mount utility
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Description

This package contains the needed user space application to mount NTFS partitions via fuse.
Are these the same u were talking abt???

And the fstab details are--
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Replace "ro,users,gid=users,umask=00" with "exec,user,noauto 0 0" in fstab!
Then just goto terminal and do "mount /windows/C". Or u can use the "disk mounter" applet for mounting drives in gnome's panel.

Gnome panel > right click > add to panel > disk mounter! Select ur drive and go.
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ro with EXEC
users with user
gid=users with noauto 0 0
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Replace "ro,users,gid=users,umask=00" with "exec,user,noauto 0 0" in fstab!
Then just goto terminal and do "mount /windows/C". Or u can use the "disk mounter" applet for mounting drives in gnome's panel.

Gnome panel > right click > add to panel > disk mounter! Select ur drive and go.
Are the drivers in the kernel able to write to NTFS partition now?
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^^I dunno! But if he can read the partitions with ntfs options like in his screenshot of fstab, then I guess he can write to the partitions too!

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Yes! And "," with ","!
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^^I dunno! But if he can read the partitions with ntfs options like in his screenshot of fstab, then I guess he can write to the partitions too!
ntfs read support has been around for long enough but write support just came in the kernel or 2.6.18, and it wasn't usable. This has been discussed in another thread.
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@ Mediator

This is the file now--
Plz tell if there is any mistake.

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I hav installed Windows XP on NTFS and Suse 10.2.
Whenever i try to paste something in NTFS partitions(IN LINUX) it says u dont hav permissions to do that.
Then i clicked on drive's properties and checked all of these.
But that didnt solved the problem.
How can i do this??
You'll have to download and install NTFS kernel from the kernel site (search google.com/linux for that) and then you can write on NTFS drives.
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@ Mediator

This is the file now--
Plz tell if there is any mistake.

Remove the "umask=00,nls=utf8"!

@TYF : Didn't know that. Anyways all the modern distros they say have ntfs support!

@manshia : If things still don't go the way they r suposed to, then update the kernel first.
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@Mediator

is it Ok now??

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Post do you want write access in ntfs partitions...

ntfs-3g is the present available solution for write access from linux to ntfs partitions...suse linux repos may have it.get it installed and edit your /etc/fstab as:
Code:
~# gedit /etc/fstab
/dev/sdx       /media/sda1    ntfs-3g  silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.UTF-8  0  0
HOWTOInstall newest ntfs-3g driver and fuse in opensuse 10.1
http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?showtopic=29813
http://forum.ntfs-3g.org/viewtopic.p...1fe104c199154a
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Yea it is ok now! Proceed...
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Done.

Now when i typed
mount /windows/C

It told either it is BUSY or it is Already mounted.
??????????????
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Restart ur system, then try! Or simply command "umount /windows/C" as root first and then try mounting as normal user!
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After restart mounted the Drive.
When i tried to access it, it said Cudnt enter folder Windows/C.
Sud i update the kernel??

How to do that??
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^^ Just install ntfs-3g.. Kernel will NOT give you NTFS write support.. Only NTFS-3g will provide that..
http://www.ntfs-3g.org
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install fuse, fuse-libs, ntfs-3g, ntfsprogs & ntfsprogs-gnomevfs from your package manager, must be yast, search them and install, these are exact names just search.

make sure the partitions are unmounted, then issue this command as root
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mount /dev/hdb1 /windows/C -t ntfs-3g -rw umask=0000
check if it gets mounted, if it gets mounted then for sure you can write too.

i guess no need to update the kernel when the thing can be done without updating.
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Then, as others r saying, do install ntfs-3g!
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Naa.
i installed both the packages, FUSE and NTFS-3g.
After Unmounting the C, i gave this command
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mount /dev/hdb1 /windows/C -t ntfs-3g -rw umask=0000
It Said
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Usage: mount -V                 : print version
       mount -h                 : print this help
       mount                    : list mounted filesystems
       mount -l                 : idem, including volume labels
So far the informational part. Next the mounting.
The command is `mount [-t fstype] something somewhere'.
Details found in /etc/fstab may be omitted.
       mount -a [-t|-O] ...     : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab
       mount device             : mount device at the known place
       mount directory          : mount known device here
       mount -t type dev dir    : ordinary mount command
Note that one does not really mount a device, one mounts
a filesystem (of the given type) found on the device.
One can also mount an already visible directory tree elsewhere:
       mount --bind olddir newdir
or move a subtree:
       mount --move olddir newdir
A device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom,
or by label, using  -L label  or by uuid, using  -U uuid .
Other options: [-nfFrsvw] [-o options] [-p passwdfd].
For many more details, say  man 8 mount .
The changes i had made in FSTAB, sud i mke them default??
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Please change "ntfs" to "ntfs-3g" in ur fstab and then try!
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Naa.
i installed both the packages, FUSE and NTFS-3g.
After Unmounting the C, i gave this command
Code:
mount /dev/hdb1 /windows/C -t ntfs-3g -rw umask=0000
There's error with the syntax. umask should be specified after -o
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^^^^^^
plz explain with correct syntax.
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mount /dev/hdb1 /windows/C -t ntfs-3g -rw -o umask=0000
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it gave this error
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fusermount: mountpoint is not empty
fusermount: if you are sure this is safe, use the 'nonempty' mount option
FUSE mount point creation error: No such file or directory
Unmounting /dev/hdb1 ()
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umount -f /dev/hdb1
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