suse query

::cyborg:: · 04-02-2007, 03:17 PM

hi
guys

when i install suse 10.1 it asks me to install either gnome or kde

what wre thay and which one to choose

thanks

Pathik · 04-02-2007, 03:28 PM

they r GUIs .... install both.... but keep KDE as ur default cos its the best...

borg · 04-02-2007, 03:28 PM

Those are Windows managers. In other OS' like Windows or Mac OS X, you have a standard interface, but in Linux you can have many. Whether that is a good thing or not is a completely different discussion altogether. Just know that KDE & Gnome are the two most popular window managers. These thing control the look & feel of the OS.

Now regarding, which one to choose, thats a tough question. I believe you are new to Linux. If you have a lot of HDD space, I suggest installing both & checking out which one you like. I personally like & use KDE.

mehulved · 04-02-2007, 03:33 PM

They are Desktop Environments. In windows you have only one type of GUI, whereas in *nix's there are lots of them. Two of most newbie friendly are GNOME and KDE.
Here are screenshots of KDE - http://www.kde.org/screenshots/
Screenshots of GNOME - http://art.gnome.org/screenshots/gnome216
KDE is something that is aimed at being extendible whereas GNOME tries to keep things short and simple. So, take what you prefer and if you have enough space then install both.

The Unknown · 04-02-2007, 08:36 PM

Cpu Below 1 Ghz, Choose Gnome. Else Choose Kde.

drsethi · 04-02-2007, 08:58 PM

KDE is easier.Looks similar to Windows.
You can change between KDE and GNOME any time.So install both of them.
BTW now Suse 10.2 is there and it is more stable and bugs free than 10.1

praka123 · 04-02-2007, 09:21 PM

if u r confused about choosing a distro for your needs.try following online tests

for an answer:

Quote:

This is a simple distro chooser. Fill out the survey to get some idea which operating systems (Linux distros or BSD flavors) may fit your needs. Try to answer the questions reasonably - choose the most important features you need. There is no perfect OS that has it all.

http://polishlinux.org/choose/quiz/
OR
http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/

btw GNOME is a pure FLOSS work based on HIG

::cyborg:: · 04-02-2007, 11:26 PM

hi

guys

i today installed suse linux 10.1 but
i want the kde interaface but by mistake i swiched to gnome can i switch back to kde without installing it again

and

iam unable to mount the c: and d: partition in linux(iam getting a error "permission denied" can any one help plz

thanks

::cyborg::

::cyborg:: · 04-02-2007, 11:29 PM

thanks guys u all rock thanks a lot

u people are my brothers

but i think it is better to get a book on linux rather than asking silly questions here and load the forum with threads

can any one suggest me a book or a e-book (for a newbie)

NucleusKore · 05-02-2007, 12:12 AM

You can download suse linux manuals from http://www.opensuse.org

Pathik · 05-02-2007, 12:15 AM

login as root n then mount the parts.. And to switch to kde change ur default wm in the control center

NucleusKore · 05-02-2007, 12:29 AM

When you say you switched to Gnome I assume you have already installed KDE.

If so all you have to do is
1. Press Ctrl+Alt+Del
2. Click end current session
3. You will get a login screen
4. There down click on session and change it to KDE
5. Login with your username and password

If you haven't installed KDE
1. Press Alt+F2
2. Type yast and press enter
3. Type in your root password
4. Click on Software Management
5. In the YaST2 window that open click on the dropdown list of filter and change
it from search to selections.
6. In that list tick on KDE desktop environment and click accept.
7. After it installs perform steps 1-5 of previous solution.

Accessing windows partitions in Open SuSE 10.1:

Create a new mount point:
1.Open a shell by typing alt+F2
2.type konsole and press enter
3.At prompt type su and press enter
4.Type your root password and press enter
5.At prompt type
mkdir /windows
and press enter key
6.Press Ctrl+D twice to close the shell

To mount windows partitions:
1. Press Alt+F2
2. Type yast and press enter
3. Type your root password and press enter
4. Click on System->Partitioner
5. Give yes to the warning prompt
6. Wait patiently, it has to read your partitons, this is not instant coffee
7. Now you will see your hard disk(s)
8. If you have one hard disk and your first partiton and second partitions are C and D respectively, then you will see your hard disk as /dev/hdc and your C drive as /dev/hdc1 and D will be /dev/hdc2. You can make out your windows partitions from the filesystem and the size.
9. After you have correctly identified your windows partitions, and if they are FAT32 partitions, click on them one at a time and do the following:
a) click on the partition and click edit
b) click on Fstab options and enter in arbritrary option value as follows
users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true
And click ok
c) For C drive, type mount point as /windows/C
d) Then click ok

If they are NTFS then in the Fstab options tick read only and mountable by user. Don't give any arbritrary option values. Other steps are the same.

10.Now click apply, you will be warned of the changes to be made, review them and accept the proposal.
11.Open a shell, type su and press enter, type your root password and press enter, now at the prompt type
partprobe
And press enter key. The OS will reprobe your partitions. No need to reboot, this is not windoze

Let me know if you have any trouble

::cyborg:: · 05-02-2007, 03:52 PM

@nucleus sir u r great simply great

thanks a lot

but i did one stupidity after doing what u said with the partitions i agai un mounted the c: partition not when access it says permission denied and when i go to windows there is a lock appearing on cfolder and d is appearing as a folder

iam unable to access c:
c: is ntfs
d: is fat32
os=suse 10.1

now what should i do??

NucleusKore · 05-02-2007, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ::cyborg::

@nucleus sir u r great simply great

thanks a lot

but i did one stupidity after doing what u said with the partitions i agai un mounted the c: partition not when access........now what should i do??

I do not follow your opening line, there is a syntax error, you unmounted the C partition?
Anyway, open partitioner in yast and just check the settings in the partitioner, c and d partitons, fstab button, it should be as above. It should be fine then.
If not, go to your root folder, open the etc folder, and look for a text file named fstab. Open it and copy paste to post the contents here. I'll have a look at it.

::cyborg:: · 05-02-2007, 10:35 PM

@nucleuskore sir i dont know hot but the problem is solved but now i have a another problem

that

the gnome panel(taskbar) still apears with kde one can u plz help me to remove that

i also het a error when i remove it that "you cannot remove ur last panel"

in start up also it says that it has detected a panel and loads it.

thanks

::cyborg::

NucleusKore · 06-02-2007, 07:47 AM

1. Open konsole
2. Type
su
and press enter
3. Type your root password and press enter
4. at prompt type
killall -9 panel
and press enter
5. Again at prompt type
killall -9 nautilus
and press enter
6. Press Ctrl+D twice to exit

::cyborg:: · 06-02-2007, 04:40 PM

@nucleus sir it is not working

when i use both command

it says "no process killed"

NucleusKore · 06-02-2007, 05:49 PM

Open a konsole and type the following command at prompt
ps -U root
and press enter
Now select the whole thing with your mouse, right click on the selection, copy, and paste it here. I will take a look

::cyborg:: · 08-02-2007, 12:51 PM

vicky@Sandeep:~> ps -U
ERROR: List of real groups must follow -U.
********* simple selection ********* ********* selection by list *********
-A all processes -C by command name
-N negate selection -G by real group ID (supports names)
-a all w/ tty except session leaders -U by real user ID (supports names)
-d all except session leaders -g by session OR by effective group name
-e all processes -p by process ID
T all processes on this terminal -s processes in the sessions given
a all w/ tty, including other users -t by tty
g OBSOLETE -- DO NOT USE -u by effective user ID (supports names)
r only running processes U processes for specified users
x processes w/o controlling ttys t by tty
*********** output format ********** *********** long options ***********
-o,o user-defined -f full --Group --User --pid --cols --ppid
-j,j job control s signal --group --user --sid --rows --info
-O,O preloaded -o v virtual memory --cumulative --format --deselect
-l,l long u user-oriented --sort --tty --forest --version
-F extra full X registers --heading --no-heading --context
********* misc options *********
-V,V show version L list format codes f ASCII art forest
-m,m,-L,-T,H threads S children in sum -y change -l format
-M,Z security data c true command name -c scheduling class
-w,w wide output n numeric WCHAN,UID -H process hierarchy

mehulved · 08-02-2007, 12:59 PM

it's ps -U root and not ps -U

::cyborg:: · 08-02-2007, 01:11 PM

oops sorry tech_ur_future

PID TTY TIME CMD
1 ? 00:00:00 init
2 ? 00:00:00 ksoftirqd/0
3 ? 00:00:00 events/0
4 ? 00:00:00 khelper
5 ? 00:00:00 kthread
7 ? 00:00:00 kblockd/0
8 ? 00:00:00 kacpid
118 ? 00:00:00 pdflush
119 ? 00:00:00 pdflush
121 ? 00:00:00 aio/0
120 ? 00:00:00 kswapd0
326 ? 00:00:00 cqueue/0
327 ? 00:00:00 kseriod
367 ? 00:00:00 kpsmoused
844 ? 00:00:00 udevd
1264 ? 00:00:00 khubd
1422 ? 00:00:00 kgameportd
1446 ? 00:00:00 shpchpd_event
1770 ? 00:00:00 hcid
1788 ? 00:00:00 sdpd
1822 ? 00:00:00 hidd
1837 ? 00:00:00 krfcommd
2185 ? 00:00:00 syslog-ng
2211 ? 00:00:00 klogd
2252 ? 00:00:00 acpid
2275 ? 00:00:00 resmgrd
2316 ? 00:00:02 hald
2602 ? 00:00:00 hald-addon-acpi
2808 ? 00:00:00 hald-addon-stor
2815 ? 00:00:00 hald-addon-stor
3649 ? 00:00:00 auditd
3651 ? 00:00:00 kauditd
3705 ? 00:00:00 nscd
3809 ? 00:00:00 sshd
3811 ? 00:00:00 powersaved
3858 ? 00:00:02 iald
3860 ? 00:00:00 gdm
3876 ? 00:00:00 startpar
3909 ? 00:00:00 master
3928 ? 00:00:00 cron
4014 ? 00:00:00 gdm
4017 tty7 00:01:46 X
4039 tty1 00:00:00 mingetty
4040 tty2 00:00:00 mingetty
4041 tty3 00:00:00 mingetty
4042 tty4 00:00:00 mingetty
4043 tty5 00:00:00 mingetty
4044 tty6 00:00:00 mingetty
4420 ? 00:00:00 dhcpcd
3621 ? 00:00:03 zmd

NucleusKore · 08-02-2007, 05:50 PM

The process to kill is 4014 in this list. gdm stands for gnome desktop manager

1. Open konsole
2. Type su and become root user like you did earlier
3. Type at prompt
ps -U root
and press enter
4. Now look for the process named gdm and note its pid (process id). (In the list you gave it is 4014 but this changes when you reboot the OS.)
5. type the command at prompt as follows
kill pid
where pid is the process id of gdm

For example, if the process id of gdm is now 4568, the command you will type at root shell prompt will be
kill 4568

6. After this press ctrl+D twice.
7. Problem solved

mehulved · 08-02-2007, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NucleusKore

The process to kill is 4014 in this list. gdm stands for gnome desktop manager

http://www.gnome.org/projects/gdm/
GDM's got nothing to do here. I've used gdm lots of time as my display manager to log in to KDE or some WM without any problem.
cyborg Try

Code:

ps -A | grep gnome

And if you can show a screenshot, it would help me understand better maybe.

::cyborg:: · 08-02-2007, 07:51 PM

@nucleus sir problem solved thanks u really helped me a lot thank u sir a lot.

@tech_ur_future ur trick worked.(thanks to u also)

what i did was i followed

ps-A|grep gnome
then it showed some panel and a process id and as the nucleus sir said i killed the process with no as it was 4296 and i typed kill 4296

and panel was gone

thank u both of u .
__________
hey wait new problem iam not able to play mp3 files in suse

whan click on it amarok 1.3 launches and says it cannot play mp3 files..

help

mehulved · 08-02-2007, 08:02 PM

check the multimedia sticky.

NucleusKore · 08-02-2007, 09:55 PM

Visit http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_Ya...e_Repositories
and add the following YUM repoitories to YaST installation sources.
1. Packman (for kaffeine, mplayer, libxine, w32codecs, DeVeDe, AviDemux)
2. Guru (for Amarok, GIMP)
3. Octupus (for Azureus)

These are some of the packages I use.

After successfully adding, open software management, and update amarok and whatever else you want