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02-01-2005, 08:28 PM
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Macboy
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Ubuntu Linux
Hi,
I am not yet a linux user, but I have recently been given this CD containing "Ubuntu" linux distro. Is it any good? or should I go in for Red Hat or somethin' like that. I want a linux which is nice to look at. Not really looking for networking features and all that stuff.
Don't get me all windows'd up, I am an avid supporter of firefox an all'. Please reply
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02-01-2005, 08:59 PM
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In The Zone
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Ubuntu is a good distro. Better get this months DVD and install Fedora Core 3 instead
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02-01-2005, 10:54 PM
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Broken In
Join Date: Oct 2003
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You're right fedora is the best option for newcomers
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03-01-2005, 12:02 PM
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Or if you want a real GNU/Linux system, go for Debian. A bootable debian DVD came with PCQ Deember 2004 issue. Buy it
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04-01-2005, 12:35 PM
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In The Zone
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Yes. ! but Ubuntu is good for the newbiews whi want to give Debian a start.. ! It is based on Debian and have lots of applications and installation is pretty easy too...
Must give it a try....
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04-01-2005, 01:56 PM
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Wise Old Owl
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After going through this thread i installed this distro on my system But siorry to say its not all that good and leavea a lot to be desired. This is more so if you have worked with debian then come on to this setup. Well i have heard it will offer a more rapid update cycle, apart from this i see no other advantage that it offers. So if you are interested in this distro go for debian itself.
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04-01-2005, 06:52 PM
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Macboy
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ubuntu looks good
its just that the Ubuntu package (not the stuff that came with digit, I got this complementary CD with a professional cover n' all.) looks so good, with these three people holding hands and looking up. it gives you that "install me now!" feeling....
Milind
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05-01-2005, 05:47 PM
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Apprentice
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Ubuntu does not have a lot of softwares. You must use apt-get to install many softwares.
Instead of Ubuntu one can have a knoppix hdinstall.
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21-01-2005, 02:01 AM
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Right Off the Assembly Line
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Ubuntu
Go ahead with Ubuntu. It is a good distro and quite easy for newcomers. In fact all the advice about using Fedora does not make sense unless you have a Fedora expert to hold your hands through the install and configuration.
Fedora has a very rough feel to it since it is a testing bed for RedHat's enterprise version (and RedHat has shown no fondness for the ordinary desktop user) whereas Ubuntu is a new distro that seems to understand what it takes to click on the desktop and has clearly stated their intention to go after the desktop as well as the business user.
Ubuntu also has a good forum. Ubuntuguide.org has a nice set of instructions that you can print and keep for reference to install and configure a very good system.
Of course Mandrake 10.1 or Suse 9.2 would also be just as fine if you can lay your hand on the CD's. Neither requires much hand holding either.
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21-01-2005, 11:16 AM
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Human Spambot
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I agree. Ubuntu is good and if you have access to good bandwidth, it promises a new version every six months.
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Originally Posted by cool_guy_on_linux
In fact all the advice about using Fedora does not make sense unless you have a Fedora expert to hold your hands through the install and configuration.
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I disagree. FC's anaconda installer is almost a next, next, ok kind of installation now. I have been installing it since RH9 days and its fairly simple. There have been no expert guidance (or spoon feeding) for me and I am not a linux expert in any way!
Only tricky part is hard disk partitioning. But that has to be tackled in almost all distros except the live ones. And in FC they have options for automatic partitioning to make it as simple as possible.
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21-01-2005, 03:02 PM
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Right Off the Assembly Line
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Hard Disk Partitioning
Why dont you take a copy of Mandrake Linux 8.0 ( 3 year old at least) and try the partitioning tools in it. It is a GUI as good as Partition Magic, even better since it allows use of Linux File systems that were not available in PM at that time.
In fact till I laid hands on Mandrake I used to be terrified of Partition Tables (all due to all the explanations given for RedHat in PCQ).
So if Mandrake could make a Partitioning utility 3 years ago and GPL'd it, why did RedHat and PCQ not use it ?
I have also been impressed with Partitioning and install tool on Mepis.
Try some of these on a Windows machine and you will learn the difference.
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21-01-2005, 04:54 PM
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Wise Old Owl
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Fedora Core is a very good distro to start with it has a very good hassel free installer and I would recommend it to all starters and old users. Please dont wast your time on Ubuntu its not worth it. The partition utility of disk drude is very good and requires no (recnical) inputs it recognises windows if installed earlier and automaticaly make the system a dual boot one. The distro has alot of eye candy and the best tecnical support available. I have been using this distr for the past two yeard (all 1 then 2 now 3). If its the geek stuff you want go for gentoo its fast and custom made for you this however is not recommended for starters.
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21-01-2005, 07:41 PM
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Wise Old Owl
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in ubuntu linux while installing i used a swap partition and the /var as the root partition.Then after installing i got a few eroors saying a few packages were not installed.then it still started and it did not go into the linux desktop but was just looked like unix.
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21-01-2005, 07:44 PM
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Wise Old Owl
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even mandrake & penutwhat was given in digit august2003 dvd i had the same problem as ubuntu.can you tell me waht is wrong.or tell me the proper installation method.i however installed fedora core 3 .but i wouldlike to know what mistake i made.
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21-01-2005, 08:47 PM
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Alpha Geek
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Could you explain what you meant by setting /var as root partition?
Did you set the mount point of a (fairly large, depending on distro) partition as '/'
The / partition is called the root partition of your disk
I don't think you need to set a seperate /var partitions on most distro's.
BTW, I too may be getting the Ubuntu cds soon ... I am not sure if I'll install it myself as I am happy with my slack install, but I will try to pester people at school and an office I know to install it ...
Isn't there a live cd provided? The best way to check if you will like Ubuntu is to try the live cd.
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21-01-2005, 09:04 PM
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the ubuntu linux cd was burned from the digit dvd.i got an error the first time i installed that the virtual memoryis low so set the mount point /var then it started installing.or can you give me the partion layout.i have windows in c: and installing ubuntu in f:.i have a40gb harddisk
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31-01-2005, 08:44 AM
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Wise Old Owl
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the ubuntu linux cd was burned from the digit dvd.i got an error the first time i installed that the virtual memoryis low so set the mount point /var then it started installing.or can you give me the partion layout.i have windows in c: and installing ubuntu in f:.i have a40gb harddisk
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05-02-2005, 03:14 PM
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Wise Old Owl
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Chennai
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i have installed ubuntu but now it does not go into the gui.it shows a message "configure your resolution and then try loading gdm"
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05-02-2005, 05:01 PM
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FooBar Guy
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Then configure your resolution and try loading gdm again.
here's how to do it.
# xf86config
-> go through its configuration and set up your resolution.
# /etc/init.d/gdm restart
-> restart GDM login manager.
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05-02-2005, 05:19 PM
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Wise Old Owl
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sorry for being off topic ..
but Richard Stallman himself reccommended this version of linux
hmm....
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05-02-2005, 05:30 PM
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FooBar Guy
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but Richard Stallman himself reccommended this version of linux
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uggghhh.... Stallman would have blasted on you if you made that comment there. Didn't you learn anything from that seminar???
Linux is just a kernel. The Operating system is called GNU. An operating system that works with Linux kernel is called GNU/Linux. The Final GNU Operating System will not have Linux as its kernel as it has some issues which cannot take Linux kernel far.
Stallman recommends this GNU/Linux distribution because it is 100% Free-as-in-Freedom Operating System and does not contain a single proprietary software or device driver.
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06-02-2005, 12:15 PM
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Wise Old Owl
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it did not work GNUrag Anyway leave it uninstalled ubuntu and am going to install mandrake .can you explain why that error happens but i have that error in all the live cds but have worked out the problem there
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