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Old 11-10-2006, 02:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy Suse 10.1, Winxp, Ntfs: Clarification Needed


hi bro's

as far or as near "LINUX" is concerned iam next to nothing

curruntly iam running winxpsp2 on pIII 1ghz 256 MB ram i815 and 160 gb HDD moduled into 5 partitions
c: 28 GB | d: 30 GB | e: 30 GB | f: 30 GB | g: 30.9 GB
all ntfs based
c: confines windows xpsp2
d: pure virgin beauty
e: videos
f: mp3's
g: softies

now i have suse 10.1 and i want to go for it with my current config. keeping windows xp intact.

i had to do linux oracle prac.
will oracle express database for linux work on suse 10.1 ?

can i do so

any kinda help will be appriciated (and rewarded)

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Old 11-10-2006, 03:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes, it will work
For details
http://www.oracle.com/technology/tec...linux_faq.html
http://www.oracle.com/database/index.html
http://www.oracle.com/technology/pro...f/dbxe_faq.pdf
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Old 12-10-2006, 08:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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any thing about installation
i mean i want to install the complete suse 10.1 in my d drive (30 gb ntfs)
can i do so ?
can i achieve dual boot (iam havin xpsp2 on c drive (ntfs)) ?

GUYS JUS TELL/CLARIFY ME THE PARTITION CHOOSING OPTION OF SUSE 10.1 SO THAT I DON END UP IN A HELL OF LOSIN DATA DUE TO MY STUPIDITY
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@DukeNukem, If you are new to Linux. Then have atleast 10 GB of unpartitioned space.
You can either manually allocate 8 GB for 'root' & 1.5 GB for swap or choose the option
"Allocate from the free space available". Suse Linux will automatically allocate the
partitions for 'root' , swap. & 'home'. That's all!! Don't worry dual boot is possible.
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my rig has a similar setup. jguru is right. Pretty easy to setup.
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thanks guys

will do the same first thing today after reaching home. post the results tommarow


once again thanks
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Installation of SUSE 10.1 is really a horrible experience for me, though not difficult but takes ages to start and any changes made to booting, partitioning, software make my knees shiver as accepting changes takes atleast 7 minutes each (booting,partitioning,software) and above all

INSTALLATION HANGS WHEN COMES THE REAL PART THATS " INSTALLATION"

Can any one pull me up from this (Whole sunday went into drain tryin installing it)
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You can't expect any modern distro with a full fledged desktop environment and oracle to run on such meagre resources. It will be slow.
Do you get some error during installation? If yes, what is the error? Do you have any graphics card?
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OK I've Slow PC but it isint soooooooooo slow. i've installed additional 256MB wafer (which makes up 512mb total) and its not faulty.( no grafix card for me onboard vga and sound MB i815)

I dont recieve any errors during installation
formatting the partitions and mounting process goes smooth but when the installation begin my pc Hangs.

other linux distro installation goes fine with me (like mandarke 9.1)
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i think there is a problem with ur swap space, how much u allocated to ur swap partion?? & how
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its through custom partitioning
5 GB for SWAP
and
15 GB for /
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5GB is way too much for swap. Anything more than 1GB doesn't make sense with 512MB RAM. At the most give 1.5GB but I still feel that will be too high. Anything between 750MB to 1GB should do actually.
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thanks for the prompt help

Will it solve my Probs ???
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the system config is ok. The processor is a bottleneck, but should work ok. SWAP should not slow the install. But where does it hang?

If the slide show for install has already started, try selecting the expert tab and find where it hangs. Also since this is the first time you are installing, do try to keep the softwares to be installed to the bare minimum. I mean, just go with the default softwares installed.

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also try switching to text mode install as gfx can be problem
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Quote:
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where does it hang?
At the begining of installation

Quote:
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try selecting the expert tab and find where it hangs
tried. changed the moment installation starts. pc goes dead duck.

Ive checked all media for errors. all results are -(ve) for 5 cd's

Quote:
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Its not.
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@DukeNukem, 1.5 GB is enough for swap. You may allocate 10 or 15 GB for root('/'),
it's upto you. Also boot using Suse Linux CD/DVD in Safe Graphics Mode.
Start the installation process. I think this should solve your 'PC hangs' problem.
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Mission acomplished

but iam in another prob (i wonder what u gut\y's are thinkin of me)
i some how manage to currupt the display settings in SUSE 10.1
(by changing it thru sax) now i can get the GUI os SUSE, monitor light goes drunk while starting GUI.

one more thing how to change gnome into kde and vice versa ???

guys please prompt replies, its really urgent.
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Have you installed both GNOME and KDE? Then you can select it while logging in.
Aren't you able to change display back with sax?
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i am not able to make it to desktop

what i did is changed my display settings. it ask me to restart to see the changes. i did
after that i cant get it to gui. dos kinda interface i can

i've installed both GNOME AND KDE and choosed GNOME as default
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IF you have your monitor's manual around. Follow Satissh S's how-to for editing Xorg.conf manually in this section. It won't be too difficult. If you don't get it, then wait till someone else can show you some other utility for configuring the display. I am not so aware of the other tools offered by Suse.
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u can switch btw GNOME and kde using switchdesk utility...also possible by editing /etc/gdm.conf ....(gEEky way).

while configuring display it always come handy if u know the horizontal and vertical refresh/frequencies.also what is ur video card? if u want desparetly to a GUI or DE,perhaps editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf or choosing using sax2 "vesa" driver for video card will do.for nvidia cards u may need their GFX drivers rpms from their site afaik.


i used suse linux long back so use some suse users help also
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thanks for the GNOME <-> KDE Information. i've solved my DISPLAY probs my self, one can change the display settings using "sax2" from console mode
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hi there

I've mounted my drives c d e f g in SUSE 10.1 and they are shown in my computer

but i cant access them

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You mean you can't see the contents of the drive or you can't write to the drive?
Since you said you have all ntfs partitions you will need some tool like ntfs-3g or ntfs-static or something to write to ntfs partition.
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Well i can see the content of the drive while loging through "root" though cant write or update .
but when i login through my login i cant even access the drives

any reso. for this .
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You will need to add umask=000 to the line corrosponding those drives in the file /etc/fstab.
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it is present there
the drives are visible in my computer when logged through mine login but when try opening them, cant do it.
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@DukeNukem, You can do one thing. Convert one of your Windows partitions to FAT32.
And use the FAT32 partition for saving files when using Linux, if you want to access the
files from both Windows & Linux. Then FAT32 is the best choice.
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