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Old 11-10-2006, 11:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Debian plans to release its newest version, Etch, in December, and wants Mozilla's Firefox Web browser to be part of the distribution. Mozilla, however, told Debian it couldn't release the software without its accompanying artwork. Now a legal expert says that the existing distinctions between copyright and trademark laws should have prevented this from becoming an issue in the first place.

Larry Rosen, an attorney specializing in intellectual property protection and former general counsel for the Open Source Initiative, told NewsForge, "An open source copyright license can permit you to make any changes you want to certain software, or to make no changes at all. But a trademark license may also be needed before you can apply the original author's trademarks to those changed or original works.

"I don't think that this should be a debate. We merely have to understand that copyright and trademark involve entirely different rights. A license to one of those isn't necessarily a license to the other."

Earlier this year, Mike Connor, a developer with Mozilla, submitted a bug report to Debian that stated that if Debian intend to call its browser Firefox, it would be required to include Firefox graphics as well, or should plan to find a new name for the browser.

Mozilla says its guidelines are clear: the use of the Firefox name is permitted only if accompanied by its logo, icons, and other artwork.

Debian developer and project maintainer Eric Dorland contends, however, that Mozilla's graphics set cannot be released with Etch because "they have a non-free license." He says to do so would be a violation of the Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG), which determine the criteria for which software can be used in Debian distributions.

While Debian developers are willing to use the Firefox name in compliance with trademark laws, they feel that any artwork contained in Etch must allow users the freedom to make changes to it, as they can with other free artwork.

Connor says, however, that while he appreciates Debian's point of view, Mozilla's logos and icons provide a visual identity as well as an assurance of quality to the user. He says that Mozilla's stance on protecting its branding elements is no different than that of any other company that wants to ensure a high-quality user experience.

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Old 12-10-2006, 03:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Behind the Debian & Mozilla dispute over the use of FireFox!!

Jguru may I know something........................????????
From where do u gt all these latest updates abt software industry?
Latest Linux distros
Software Giants Policies
And so on.....

I m specially interested in each and every action of the OPEN SOURCE world!
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Old 12-10-2006, 03:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I've sent you a PM. See it for more details.
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Old 12-10-2006, 05:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Jguru may I know something........................????????
From where do u gt all these latest updates abt software industry?
Latest Linux distros
Software Giants Policies
And so on.....

I m specially interested in each and every action of the OPEN SOURCE world!
Check out sites like Distrowatch, Slashdot, Linux and Open Source Blog and many more sites. But, I believe these are the best for tracking things in the Linux world. I usually subsribe to RSS feeds of those, though I guess it will not be feasible at your college. But, if you can, subscribe to RSS feeds of such sites using some RSS reader.

@JGuru you can share your sites with everyone by posting it in the open instead of PM'ing. So, others can learn of those sites too.
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This is NOT how things are done in FOSS communities.
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Debian once again is showing what kind of anal asses there are...
They are friggin hypocrites...they would save their own trademarks with all their might but don't respect other corporation's trademark. I have been following this fiasco since sometime now and imho Mozilla people treated Debian too softly. They should have sent a cease-and-desist notice to Debian and asked for lawyer's charges from them (a common practice). That would have taught a thing or two to those idiots.
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OK Guys, @Mehul, @GNUrag. I post the links to some of the sites that I check daily.
Here it goes:

1) www.linux.com
2) www.desktoplinux.com
3) http://www.tuxme.com/
4) www.osnews.com
5) www.linux.org
6) http://linux.wordpress.com/
7) http://www.varlinux.org/
8) http://www.linuxworld.com/
9) http://lwn.net/
10) http://www.linuxtoday.com/
11) http://www.itjungle.com/
12) http://www.lockergnome.com/
13) http://linux.quicksurf.com/
14) http://linux.slashdot.org/linux
15) http://www.distrowatch.com/


And lots of websites also!! I think this is enough!!
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Heyyy, thanx for sharing man. I just remembered after seeing ur post that I too had accounts on most of these sites but forgot all about em!
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heyy u ppl missed tis links perhaps:
http://linux.eweek.com
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http://linux-watch.com
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There are even more links @Prakash. I thought the list given by me was more than enough.
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