Welcome Linux, Bye Windows...

[nitish_mythology]

I have decided to use linux from now on..
Installed Fedora Core 4.(Formatted entire 20gb hdd)

As I am really new to Linux(Earlier I have tried few disros for few days)

Ques---
1.How to install xmms, which was provided with Digit?
2.I have NetoDragon modem drivers. How to install them.
3.Which soft is required to play videos in Linux(.avi,.dat.mpg)

Is there an e-book for learing Fedora Core?

[reddragon]

why you made this decision?

[nitish_mythology]

Its better to switch to Open Source than Pirate Windows...

[vignesh]

For xmms if its an rpm then

rpm -ivh <fn>.rpm

Source :

./configure
make
make install

To play videos download vlc or mplayer or xine.

For modem drivers what are the files given
are they binary files or modules ?

[nitish_mythology]

As it is source
It tried
./configure
make
make install

After issueing 1st command...
Lots of messages...
At last-
confiure: error: ***GLIB >=1.2.2 not installed -please install first ***

What is rpm?

How to differentiate between binary and module?

[mehulved]

You will have some dependancy problems if you try to install from the source. So, it's better to use rpm's. RPM stands for redhat package manager. It is the format used to install applications on distros like red hat, fedora core, suse, mandriva, etc.
Install yum or apt to manage dependancy problems. It will be lots eaiser to install software using yum or apt cos they will solve the problem of depedancies on it's own.
Have a look at this http://fedoranews.org/mediawiki/inde...allation_Notes
to configure your FC and install extras.

[mediator]

And ur knew to linux...So dont delete windows!! Lotta things are needed fro windows too...like adsl/usb internet, transferring files from mobile via usb, gaming etc. If u do only programming etc and want to surf web with complete freedom and stability etc then its OK.

And for installing xmms (mp3s) ,xine (videos)....just shoot up the terminal
1. Type "su"
2. enter root password
3. Type "yum install xmms" => installs xmms automatically from net!
4. When completed ,Type "yum install xine" => installs xine
5. Type "yum clean all" => to remove the temprary rpms downloaded in the process

And have fun!

[vignesh]

A binary file is like an exe in windows... A module is one that has to be loaded into the kernel to add extra functionality... Eg ntfs module can be used to enable read/write access to ntfs partitions.

You can diff btw them by seeing the type.Usually modules also come as rpms.

[osinghrathore]

Did you tried Ubuntu Linux? Its perfect for a newbie.. so easy to use.

[reddragon]

8 out of 10 cases go like this ............they kick out windows thinking that what they r doing is great and they will do a lot of stuff in linux and will contribute many things to the open-source community.............

but when u will be in danger , u have short time , deadline all blues ...

u will see windows will save u ....... 8 / 10 people try linux for a month and finally switch back to WINDOWS .. as u r a newbie to linux I suggest u not to kill windows in ur PC ...keep it there also . 2 OS are good .

Originally Posted by nitish_mythology

Its better to switch to Open Source than Pirate Windows...

[nitish_mythology]

I have my dad's laptop with me which has xp sp-2...
So I will keep only Linux!

My p.c has no internet connection,so how will I install using yum or apt?

[nitish_mythology]

Originally Posted by vignesh

A binary file is like an exe in windows... A module is one that has to be loaded into the kernel to add extra functionality... Eg ntfs module can be used to enable read/write access to ntfs partitions.

You can diff btw them by seeing the type.Usually modules also come as rpms.

I am still not sure...
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[vignesh]

Fine... its a script.. are these drivers for RH9 or did you download for FC4.. As far I have seen modem cds with RH only.... Download rpms from your Dad`s laptop and transfer them to your comp...

By the way don`t worry about missing windows... I have been without windows for 6 months... I miss nothin.I onlt switched fully after 3 years of dual boot once I bought an external modem... Its better it will work with all distro`s

[nitish_mythology]

I visited the site http://www.netodragon.com/ and downloaded the driver...
I am not able to get anythhing else from the net.
What to do? I hope that it does not lead to a deadlock.

[coolblue]

Nitish check out this Fedora FAQ
http://www.fedorafaq.org/


And I suggest u try the new Fedora Core 5 and replace FC4.

Check out Fedora forums too...lots of people there will be willing to guide u.
www.fedoraforum.org

Hope this helps

[vignesh]

Usually drivers come with a manual and each one differs... So try searching the site for a manual.

[nitish_mythology]

I will be searching for modem drivers..
What abt the prb of playing mp3s and video files???

There r no manuals in site -just drivers for win xp,9x,Me etc and Linux(Nothing for specific version)

[borg]

Switch back to windows. Windows costs 3.5k. Well worth it. Install Linux on a smaller partition & use it so you learn it. Jumping to Linux suddenly is not a good idea. Whatever the Linux fanatics say.

[mehulved]

Originally Posted by borg

Switch back to windows. Windows costs 3.5k. Well worth it. Install Linux on a smaller partition & use it so you learn it. Jumping to Linux suddenly is not a good idea. Whatever the Linux fanatics say.

Nope the main problem is getting internet to work. If he gets it working, there won't be any need to use windows at all.
BTW, nitish if you are really keen on sticking to linux, try to get a external modem which is compatible with linux. It will be good in the long run.
It would be a great feat to find drivers for FC4, as most of these companies just include linux drivers to make customers feel happy when they have no intention of supporting linux.
Don't listen to those giving negative comments if you have really made up your mind.
BTW, have you tried installing those drivers you have got? They might just work.

[nitish_mythology]

Originally Posted by borg

Switch back to windows. Windows costs 3.5k. Well worth it. Install Linux on a smaller partition & use it so you learn it. Jumping to Linux suddenly is not a good idea. Whatever the Linux fanatics say.

No thanks...

@tech_your_future
Thanks for ur motivation..
The drivers I downloaded are not working..
What is the cost of an external modem?
So if I once instal yum then will all soft installation prb disappear?

[mehulved]

Originally Posted by nitish_mythology

No thanks...

@tech_your_future
Thanks for ur motivation..
The drivers I downloaded are not working..
What is the cost of an external modem?
So if I once instal yum then will all soft installation prb disappear?

OK so I guess more searching needs to be done for modem drivers.
I have no clue of what an external modem costs.
Yeah yum will solve your problems. Well I personally prefer apt+synaptic cos I generally use debian and that's the debian way. I am used to apt and I can say it's a very convinent way of installing software. It manages dependacy problems on it's own.
BTW, can you describle the procedure how you tried to install the drivers. Maybe if you are going wrong somewhere someone here will be able to help you out.

[nitish_mythology]

I tried the command
./configure
Error mess--No Such File or Directory

I issued make command and then after lots of messages..
It gave four or five lines of errors in modem.c file.
E.G-
modem.c:1701:error:invalid storage class for function 'sregs_init'
3 or 4 lines were more, i m not mentioning them as I will have to 1st manually type them in my laptop.

Thanks,All of u r taking so pain to help me

Great step nitish !! I have made many attempts to use linux(fedora,ubuntu) as my primary OS but always removed the linux partitions loosing patience. But now your bold step to use Fedora Core as your primary & only OS has made me to think twice for sure. I am also going to use Linux as soon as I finish downloading all 5 Fedora Core 5 .ISOs but will use it in a dual boot with XP SP 2. Just don't be undetered by discouraging remarks. Good luck.

[mehulved]

http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/lin...em-driver.html is your problem similar?
Also give the output of

gcc -v //gives you which version of gcc you are using

uname -a // which will give the version of kernel you are using

Also, if you can transfer the README file from the linux computer to windows computer and attach it here I can search for more info.

[gary4gar]

hey by seeing nitish i think that i should also swicth not completly through.i am thinking of unbuntu 5.1 which i got through free post service.it cointains a live cd & install cd. i have some questions in my mind.

1)currently i have windows 2000 pro sp4 & windows xp pro sp2.winxp is for everything that can be done on comp.and win-2k is for my programming needs.i do visual basic 6 and Oracle 8i.my sole purpose of win 2k is running oracle 8i & vb6.will i be able to run these on unbuntu??

2)Is it a myth that distros with more cd are good.since in this regard my os is inferior to other distro.i want distro which is very easy to learn.will ubuntu 5.1 live upto my expections??

3)config:-Amd athlon 3000+,msi-k8m100,80 gb sata,onboard bfx,256 ms ram,.do i need any special drivers to install like in a windows installion from manufacures cd.or linux comes with its own drivers compatible with every hardware??

4)is every soft has a diff version for linux users.is there any way by which we can run existing windows soft.since downloading every soft on bb connection will take ages.i know i will find every progarms linux version.

5)i have a wireless router for datone bb on a lan.what steps i need to do set bb on ubuntu.

6)i am curious about linux.how it is diff from windows.also pls tell me a website where i can basic terms of linux.in order to gain basic funtionallty.because i believe wihtout basic know how how u can work.basic knowledege is must.i also want to khow how linux is not prone to viruses as windows is.i spend thounds of ruppees in buying security related soft.


7)will my machine work fast with current cofig?? since i have heard that linux uses less resouces and is faster


i khow the are very long questions u can answer selected question also.it woudl be very helpful if u answer 3 questions also.


regards
gary


Bravo,
My ISt post In open SOurce

[gary4gar]

also i am getting 404 page not found errord in the sticky [Readme] These topics have been covered.somebody pls fix the links

[kalpik]

Originally Posted by gary4gar

hey by seeing nitish i think that i should also swicth not completly through.i am thinking of unbuntu 5.1 which i got through free post service.it cointains a live cd & install cd. i have some questions in my mind.

1)currently i have windows 2000 pro sp4 & windows xp pro sp2.winxp is for everything that can be done on comp.and win-2k is for my programming needs.i do visual basic 6 and Oracle 8i.my sole purpose of win 2k is running oracle 8i & vb6.will i be able to run these on unbuntu??

I dont think VB will run on linux.

Originally Posted by gary4gar

2)Is it a myth that distros with more cd are good.since in this regard my os is inferior to other distro.i want distro which is very easy to learn.will ubuntu 5.1 live upto my expections??

Its just that distro's with more CD's (like Fedora Core) have most of the software bundled. You dont have to download most of the software as in the case of single CD distros.

Originally Posted by gary4gar

3)config:-Amd athlon 3000+,msi-k8m100,80 gb sata,onboard bfx,256 ms ram,.do i need any special drivers to install like in a windows installion from manufacures cd.or linux comes with its own drivers compatible with every hardware??

No, linux will install the required drivers.

Originally Posted by gary4gar

4)is every soft has a diff version for linux users.is there any way by which we can run existing windows soft.since downloading every soft on bb connection will take ages.i know i will find every progarms linux version.

Some windows software can be run on linux using WINE. Also, if downloading is a problem, go for bigger distros which bundle almost all the software you will ever need.

Originally Posted by gary4gar

5)i have a wireless router for datone bb on a lan.what steps i need to do set bb on ubuntu.

I think, linux will configure it automatically.. But not to sure.. Only way to tell is to install linux!

Originally Posted by gary4gar

6)i am curious about linux.how it is diff from windows.also pls tell me a website where i can basic terms of linux.in order to gain basic funtionallty.because i believe wihtout basic know how how u can work.basic knowledege is must.i also want to khow how linux is not prone to viruses as windows is.i spend thounds of ruppees in buying security related soft.

http://www.michaelhorowitz.com/Linux.vs.Windows.html

Originally Posted by gary4gar

7)will my machine work fast with current cofig?? since i have heard that linux uses less resouces and is faster

Yes.. And much more stable.. No need for reboots..

Originally Posted by gary4gar

i khow the are very long questions u can answer selected question also.it woudl be very helpful if u answer 3 questions also.

You are most welcome!

[gary4gar]

thanx for promt reply.my since u stated that i will need drivers from my munufactures website.my manufacture is VIA.i went on site it provides drivers for the followoing os.pls suggets me one.

Windows XP
Windows XP 64-Bit
Windows 2000
Windows ME
Windows NT
Windows 98SE
Windows 98
Windows 95
Windows Server 2003 x64
DOS
Windows XP Embedded SP2
Windows XP Embedded
Windows CE.net 5.0
Windows CE.net 4.2
Windows CE.net 4.1/4.0
Linux XFree86 (Not distribution-specific)
Mandriva 2006 Linux
Mandrake / Mandriva pre-2006 Linux
Fedora Core 5.0 Linux
Fedora Core 1.0, 2.0 & 4.0 Linux
Fedora Core 3.0 Linux
Source
SuSE Linux
Red Flag Linux
Red Hat Linux
MAC OS

I dont think VB will run on linux.

will Oracle 8i run on it??

[kalpik]

That depends on which distro you are planning to install! And dont worry about VIA drivers, Linux will install them automatically..

[nitish_mythology]

@tech_your_future
i did exactly what u said..
I have a cd writer but I dont know how to burn a cd?
I am not able to find k3b..My desk is gnome based
And my laptop has no floppy drive!

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