Welcome Linux, Bye Windows...

[mehulved]

Just type this

cd ~/Software/Drivers/slmodem

After typing slmodem don't press enter press tab. It's called bash completion. BASH will complete the line for you.
Then do

./configure

If all goes well then

make && make install

[nitish_mythology]

tech_your_future
As u told me I installed make......
Issued the make command and after lots of lines of output gt this error!


/usr/include/linux /irq.h : 70: error : storage size of 'irq_desc' isn't known
sllog.c 409: error: storage size of 'sllog_fops' isnt known
make:****[sllog.o] Error!

UPDATE
HI Everyone,
I m leaving fr my hostel today! So wnt gt any Linux till Diwali.....
As Its my own thread I m posting it.
I would like to thank tech_your_future , Satish S , Vignesh , Kalpik and all other members who helped me.

Will keep in touch,pls do post the sol of the error I mentioned above, It may be of no use but still I want to know abt it!

nitish_mythology

[gary4gar]

happy journey mate

[Dipen01]

Hello folks..

Well as the title says .. Even i want to learn Linux not to shift from Windows..but only for 2 reasons..

1) Its in my Syllabus this Semester.
2) I m bored of Windows. (Specially its Interface).

My Current PC Stat.
PIII 1Ghz , 64 SD RAM (133 Mhz),
40 GB HDD - (C:\ - 1GB - Win 98 , D:\ - 2.3 GB - Win XP , E:\ - ~33 GB - Data)

I'm sure you must be laughing rite now.... but thats what i have rite now.. well am hunting for a 256 MB stick since couple of months... dunno when ill get..so currently am sticking with 64 only..

And it will be totally safe to say that i dont know even ABCD of linux...

Well we have Linux this semester..and we are asked to install it to be familiar with it... well i dunno which Linux i should prefer.. If Red Hat or Fedore Core.. they will scrap my Machine...coz memory is too short... so am in fix..which one to use..

well saw many posts regaring UBUNTU...but i guess ill need Internet connection to compete its registration ( i heard that)..and i don;t have Internet..

btw there are many Slackwares also...but am finding it difficult to choose one...coz..i dunno if basic sets of Linux command are same or not.. and if that slackware will survive on my system...

Anyways...even if someone suggests me some slackware..and i wanted to install it... So what do i do..!! i mean i can format my C: and D: anytime...those are not imp..but E: - 33 GB(5 GB empty)..data is precious...so how should i create Partitions and swap space..for linux..:O

and yeah as others said...i'll have to keep Windows too..atleast in the beginning...

So pls tell me...what should i do...

Thanx
Dipen

[Satissh S]

@dipen: good decision. slacky is one of the most easiest and simplest distros to use trust me in this,
1. Decide to delete one of the windows partitions.

2. Download and burn the slackware iso's

3. Insert the disc while u boot and press enter to root login

4. type 'fdisk /dev/hda' in the prompt.

5. In the fdisk prompt, type p to view the partition listing. Note your 33 gb drive keep it sane.

6. Iam unable to get ur partition structure to help, but i believe its

Windows Terminology                      Linux Terminology                    
c:\ win98 1 GB                                /dev/hda1
d:\ winxp 2.3 GB                             /dev/hda2
e:\ data 33 gb                                 /dev/hda3

if u want install win xp in c:\ and delete the winxp partition ( d:\ ) create one 2 gb partition and one remaining space partition.. or better copy the output of the p command within fdisk in a paper and post it here

7. create a new partition press {n} within fdisk prompt and the the sno of partition 2 in this case and primary (p) or extended/logical. and press enter to accept initial block size and press +2048M to set the size of the partition in final block size as 2 gb. do the same for the swap partition who sno is 3 where instead of giving 2048 for final block size just press enter.

8. now type t within fdisnk prompt and select partition no 3 and change its type to linux swap/solaris type 82 and press enter.

9. After all is done. type setup to enter slackys setup routine and read the help fully. follow the instructions there. they are quite easy to follow, trust me . good luck.

[mehulved]

dipen you can try out Vector Linux. It is derived from Slackware. It is optimsed for slower hardware. And I guess it will be easier to install.
Slackware's CLI installer sometimes scares newbies, if you haven't seen CLI installers before, not that it is difficult.
Also, don't forgot to get backups.

[Dipen01]

@Satish , @Tech :- thanx a lot..

satish u got it right...my 3rd partition is of ~34 GB... well so out of my current C + D = some 2.3 GB..i save 2 as C: for my XP..and there will be some 230 MB only for Linux...so isnt it tool less...

Do i need to resize my current 34 GB partition also or what..???

Btw howz the interface of Slackware..??..

@tech:- buddy i wont find Vector Linux anywhere...... What do u ppl think of Mandriva..i ordered it yesterday... well i saw some discussions stressing its best for new switchers..

So what do i do now... i have UBUNTU and one frend can arrange Slackware 10...
but..i heard that UBUNTU will need..Internet for complete registration..

what abt other ones..liek SUse and FC... shuld i try em...?? .

[mehulved]

Originally Posted by Dipen01

@Satish , @Tech :- thanx a lot..

satish u got it right...my 3rd partition is of ~34 GB... well so out of my current C + D = some 2.3 GB..i save 2 as C: for my XP..and there will be some 230 MB only for Linux...so isnt it tool less...

Do i need to resize my current 34 GB partition also or what..???

You'd need atleast 5GB even if you are hardly gonna store much on linux partition. But, that's bare minimum in case you can't provide more space. You should give atleast 8-10B so as not to run into trouble in future.
You will also require atleast 1 FAT partition so you can share some files like songs, images, etc between linux and windows. You need not create a separate partition of FAT if your windows partition are FAT32.

Originally Posted by Dipen01

Btw howz the interface of Slackware..??..

Interface of any linux distro is easily customisable to your liking. Slackware uses KDE as default interface. But, it's installer is CLI and it makes you use a bit more of CLI than most distros. So, if you are averse to CLI, I would recommend you to keep away from Slackware for the time being.

Originally Posted by Dipen01

@tech:- buddy i wont find Vector Linux anywhere...... What do u ppl think of Mandriva..i ordered it yesterday... well i saw some discussions stressing its best for new switchers..

So what do i do now... i have UBUNTU and one frend can arrange Slackware 10...

Well Mandriva, Suse will be good options.

Originally Posted by Dipen01

but..i heard that UBUNTU will need..Internet for complete registration..

Most linux distro requires registeration. Registeration is left for windows and RHEL. Ubuntu requires no such thing ever. The problem is when you get Ubuntu cd. It is very minimal so you will miss a lot of packages. But, if you can manage to get Ubuntu's DVD, IMO it would be better than Suse or Mandriva

Originally Posted by Dipen01

what abt other ones..liek SUse and FC... shuld i try em...?? .

I already said about Suse. As to FC. I personally don't like it at all. But, well it is good distro to start with.

[Dipen01]

@tech:- thanx for step by step reply..

Well heres what i have in my mind...

my D:\ ( ~34 GB) will resize it to some 26 + 8 .... well 26 will be my FAT32.. but what should the remainin 8 be.. coz..that 8 would be for Linux...

Well regaring first two partitions i.e 1 + 2.3...Will keep 1 as swap for Linux...and 2.3 will be my XP as usual..!!!

Any changes/suggestion..on this... damn this 37 GB HDD sucks..i need more. ..anyways..cant help it right now..!!

Will try Slack ware from my friend..coz i dont have any other..UBUNTU..well yeah ..i have that also....

THis partioning is a big pain... coz..ill have to resize 34 GB partition so it will take ages..to do that..and after that with FDISk will have to merge and split first two parttions and all...damn any other easy option for partitioning...

[borg]

Recommending slackware to a newbie!!!. R u people out of your minds?. I don't know what linux people mean when they say 'easy to use' because it sure is different from what normal people would think.

Dipen, I advice you to not even think about the slackware. It is for advanced users only. If you start with slackware, I assure you that you will be running back to windows in a week's time....unless you are a computer guru. If Nitish mythology can have so many issues with Ubuntu ( a seemingly easy to use distro) just imagine what you will have to face with slackware.

Anyways, I would recommend Linux newbies to pick from any of the following four distros-

1. Ubuntu
2. Mandriva
3. Fedora core 5
4. Suse

I don't think other distros are relevant for newbies at this point of time. Unless you have some specialized requirements. The above mentioned distros have good support as well. Newbies must go for any of the above four ( if you can't decide, then flip a coin between ubuntu & mandriva, you will be safe).

[Dipen01]

@borg.:- my PC is P III 1GHz..64 SD RAM... what do u suggest out of those 4..

yeah i need to learn basic commands of Linux...coz thats what am supposed to... so suggest me some according to that..

[borg]

As I said, try either ubuntu 6.06 or Mandriva 2006 (anything will do, flip a coin if u can't decide). Also I highly recommend using Linux only if u have a good internet connection. Without internet, you can't get very far with Linux. As u might know, Linux doesn't come with any of the codecs (to play videos, audios, etc). These have to be downloaded & installed manually. Without internet, your Linux experience will be little more than an academic exercise. You won't be able to do any real work with it.... in my opinion

Just tell us, which distro you are going for. We will help further. You can start by getting a ubuntu 6.06 CD & booting off it. It is a live CD & u will be able to run the OS off the CD itself. This way u can try it out before actually installing it.

[Pathik]

@nitish use a live cd.... or use mandrake or rhel4

[gary4gar]

^^^^
live cd will not run on 64 mb of ram

[Dipen01]

OK ... well i dont have INternet so my badluck i guess...

hav ordered for MANDRIVA 2006...but it will take time... am goin with UBUNTU...will get my frends CD..today itself..

First will have to partition..

thanx..

[Pathik]

hey dipen where did u order mandriva...... 4m the net.... gimme the link 2..

[borg]

After u have installed ubuntu, you will have a lot to do to make the system usable. This includes installing codecs & softwares such as realplayer, xine, etc, etc. How u are going to do this without an internet connection is beyond me. Anyways, you will need a good guide to accomplish everything. Here is one-

http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper

or try this

http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/

Maybe others can post better guides.

[Dipen01]

hey..thanx a lot... man will try em.. any help on partitioning... i mean how do i make partition for linux thru FDISK in DOS

@pathik..:- http://free.thelinuxstore.ca/index.php

Posted by blackpearl in another post.!!

[abhishekkulkarni]

Originally Posted by reddragon

8 out of 10 cases go like this ............they kick out windows thinking that what they r doing is great and they will do a lot of stuff in linux and will contribute many things to the open-source community.............

but when u will be in danger , u have short time , deadline all blues ...

u will see windows will save u ....... 8 / 10 people try linux for a month and finally switch back to WINDOWS .. as u r a newbie to linux I suggest u not to kill windows in ur PC ...keep it there also . 2 OS are good .

Is this a new technique for OS demolition ?
ROFL !!

[borg]

Partitioning is really simple. Just make sure you have say atleast 6-7 GB of free space. Boot off the Linux CD. It will have an option to use the free space & automatically partition. Use that option & move on. Its really simple. I don't think you will need to use FDsik in dos to create partitions for Linux.

[abhishekkulkarni]

Originally Posted by Dipen01

hey..thanx a lot... man will try em.. any help on partitioning... i mean how do i make partition for linux thru FDISK in DOS

FDISK can only create whatever partitions you want to create .
You won't be able to format those partitions in either of the Linux filesystems ( ext2/ext3/Reiser FS etc ..) .
This because DOS doesn't support these Filesystems .

The best way is to use the Partition manager in any Distro ( eg - QTParted in MEPIS ) .
Or you can simply use the CDs of any Distrbution and partition your HDD from the Partition Manager included in the Installation Program .

[Dipen01]

thanx..Well whatever u ppl say...i know it..

but the real locha is that my 3rd partition is of 33 GB... and i want to resize it to some 25..and remaining will be for Linux.. but Partition Magic shows errors and abruptly halts..it says.. Invalid Drive Name Error - 117... well i would have done it from scratch..

but the above mentioned drive is Extended and..so its not deleting it either.. well i assume that its expecting me to delete WHOLE Extended..(2 drives)..which isnt possible for me...

so am in hunt of another partition manager... well Ranish..is famous..but as i havent used it...i m sure..wont be able to do it..ill may be try Acronis..but ill have to d/l it...so thats the problem....

[Dipen01]

its done...

[eagle_y2j]

atlast today I also took my first step towards linux world. Installed SuSE on my machine with XP

[Dipen01]

Good going eagle...

btw i must say..that there are damn... UNLIMITED OPTIONS/CONTROLS... in linux...

even the tiniest of settings can be tweaked...(in Mandriva atleast)... it was gettin tough for me to remember all...