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Old 29-11-2009, 04:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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http://www.linuxmint.com/blog/?p=1155

Linux Mint 8 “Helena” released!

The team is proud to announce the stable release of Linux Mint 8 Helena.




Quick steps:
  • Download the ISO or the torrent.
  • While it’s downloading take an overview of the new features and make sure to quickly go through the known issues.
  • After the ISO is downloaded verify the MD5.
  • Burn the ISO at low speed and enjoy Linux Mint 8.
Introduction to Linux Mint 8:
The 8th release of Linux Mint comes with numerous bug fixes and a lot of improvements. In particular Linux Mint 8 comes with support for OEM installs, a brand new Upload Manager, the menu now allows you to configure custom places, the update manager now lets you define packages for which you don’t want to receive updates,the software manager now features multiple installation/removal of software and many of the tools’ graphical interfaces were enhanced.
This is just a summary of the new features coming with Linux Mint 8. For a complete overview of the new features, please read: “What’s new in Linux Mint 8 Helena”.
Introduction to the Universal Edition:
The Universal Edition is a customized version of the Main Edition with the following differences:
  • It comes as a liveDVD instead of a liveCD
  • It comes with built-in support for English, French, Spanish, German, Italian, Swedish, Danish, Chinese, Korean, Portuguese/Br, Portuguese/Pt, Arabic, Hungarian, Lithuanian, Galician, Dutch, Russian, Polish, Norwegian, Japanese, Ukrainian, Romanian, Slovenian, Catalan, Greek, Czech, Slovak, Marathi, Norwegian [nynorsk], Croatian, Bulgarian, Turkish, Hindi, Finnish, Hebrew, Serbian, Belarussian, Basque and Bosnian.
  • It comes with no codecs, no support for restricted formats and no proprietary components.
  • It features an extra item in the Sound & Video menu which launches the installation of all missing codecs via a built-in .mint file
The purpose of the Universal Edition is to bring a localized live system to non-English speaking users of Linux Mint and to facilitate the distribution of Linux Mint in countries where software patents are enforceable (USA, Japan).
System requirements:
A minimum of 512MB of RAM is recommended. Once installed the system works fine with as low as 256MB RAM. The installation process deals with 2.5GB of data compressed on a 700MB CD and it can hang or fail on systems with less than 512MB RAM. If you have between 256MB and 512MB RAM you may have to try to install several times.
Important information and known issues:
For a complete list of known issues read the Release Notes.
Upgrade instructions:
To upgrade from Linux Mint 7 “Gloria”, read these instructions.
To upgrade from Linux Mint 8 “Helena” RC1, read these instructions.
Download Linux Mint 8:
You can download the Main and Universal editions of Linux Mint 8 via torrent or via HTTP:
Main edition:
Universal edition:
Asia:
Europe:
Northern America:
Rest of the World:
* Mirrors marked with a star weren’t fully synched when this announcement was made.
Enjoy!


ADDED: http://www.linuxmint.com/blog/?p=1171
Linux Mint 8 x64 RC1 released!

Saturday, December 5th, 2009 @ 7:55 pm

The team is proud to announce the release of Linux Mint 8 x64 Helena RC1.


Quick steps:
Introduction to Linux Mint 8 x64:
This x64 edition of Linux Mint 8 is almost identical to the Main Edition but compiled for 64 bit processors (Intel Core 2 Duo, Intel Core 2 Quad, AMD Athlon X2 64 and all x86-64 compliant processors). It comes with all the improvements featured in Linux Mint 8 Helena Main Edition.
System requirements:
An X86_64 64 bit processor (Intel Core 2, AMD X2 64, etc…) .
A minimum of 512MB of RAM is recommended. Once installed the system works fine with as low as 256MB RAM. The installation process deals with 2.5GB of data compressed on a 700MB CD and it can hang or fail on systems with less than 512MB RAM. If you have between 256MB and 512MB RAM you may have to try to install several times.
Important information and known issues:
As an RC (Release Candidate) this release is targeted at developers and beta-testers who want to help Linux Mint find and correct bugs before the stable release. Please do not use this release as your main desktop. For a complete list of known issues read the Release Notes.
The upgrade path from Linux Mint 7 x64 will be finalized for the stable release.
Feedback and bug reports:
Please report any bug you may find via the Linux Mint 8 x64 RC1 Bug Thread and give us your feedback on this release by posting a comment right here on the blog.
Download Linux Mint 8 x64 RC1:
You can download Linux Mint 8 x64 RC1 via torrent or via HTTP:
Size: 686MB LiveCD
MD5Sum: 7320db360aae3d2e119f4eeb6ca893bf
Torrent download: http://www.linuxmint.com/torrent/LinuxMint-8-x64-RC1.iso.torrent
HTTP download: http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=46
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Northern America:
Rest of the World:
Enjoy!


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I prefer Mint over Ubuntu as I like the interface much more and also the out of the box multimedia playback. This is great news for me as I was impressed by Karmic Koala. Putting it on download now. Will test later and may even write a review.
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I though Helena is someone else who is very open!
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I though Helena is someone else who is very open!
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^Can't you get the meaning?

Anyway, this well-formatted thread reminds me of good 'ol days when Dark Star used to post about Mandriva.
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^Can't you get the meaning?

Anyway, this well-formatted thread reminds me of good 'ol days when Dark Star used to post about Mandriva.
Thanks Krow. Good job.
/me takes a bow, saying more to come.

I just copy pasted from the LM Blog, but I will make sure that all my future posts here are of similar or better quality. Great to have a reader or two around.

PS : The same thread has fewer replies on TE and Linoob.
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Mint is based on ubuntu kernel right?
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^Yes but minus most of the bugs and additions of multimedia codecs,etc.
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Anyone tried Ubuntu 9.10 here? They have improved a lot. Seriously, installing codecs is not a problem anymore at all. Will give Linux Mint a spin today.
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^Since Mint takes a month more to release their version, basically they fixes most of the bugs in Ubuntu and of late have made their mark with their in-house features.
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^I am a big time Mint supporter, and use it myself, and hang out at the IRC too. It's just that I was surprised how better Ubuntu was, because I had not used it for a long time, and surprised by how much they had improved. The extra mint-only tools were always handy - although you have to give Ubuntu credit for the documents and settings importer.
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Linux community owes big time to Ubuntu for mass acceptance But its the purists, who doesn't have anything fruitful to do than just bash a particular company, who behaves in an arrogant manner which spoils the spirit.
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^mint has a version without the codecs, and only open-source tools too. Purists would like to use such versions anyway. And yeah, the particular kind of purists are very irritating, who want to show off how 1337 they are instead of using it as a tool. You use Debian 5?
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^mint has a version without the codecs, and only open-source tools too. Purists would like to use such versions anyway. And yeah, the particular kind of purists are very irritating, who want to show off how 1337 they are instead of using it as a tool. You use Debian 5?
Is that the Universal Edition you are talking about? If so, then how come the universal edition is about 1.05GB while the main one is 688MB? Downloaded the main edition and waiting eagerly for Universal one to complete. Only half an hour more. Damn, just when I was beginning to love Gloria, I have to leave her for the new hottie Helena. I am a very unfaithful partner.
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^Universal Edition doesnt have codecs and non-free stuff because of restrictions. It is aimed at the non-english speaking users and includes the various languages. This might explain why the difference in size.

I am warning you. Be loyal and just stick with one partner like Arch Linux No more version or new names!!!!!
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lol. I've been sticking to Felicia for some time now. Mebbe it is time to move on.
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well one thing in favour of ubuntu that it has wubi.exe
in mint 8 it is missing..
i m stuned to see today this after download..
basically i need that feature for installing to other's machine who never ever used linux of any kind..
other wise it is as good as before with all multi media codecs for out of the box support
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well one thing in favour of ubuntu that it has wubi.exe
in mint 8 it is missing..
i m stuned to see today this after download..
basically i need that feature for installing to other's machine who never ever used linux of any kind..
other wise it is as good as before with all multi media codecs for out of the box support
I found out after download too. What the ! This is utter nonsense. I have burned and installed Helena and I can't seem to like her too much. It took me two hours to install as I have never done non-Wubi installations. I have no clue what to do now. I installed it on my backup HDD as on my OS HDD it was just not installing. Giving me damn no root directory specified error. Mint being targetted at newbies like myself is a serious PITA to install. Looking forward to completely removing it and reinstalling it on my OS HDD. Someone please guide this poor soul. How to do a PITA free non Wubi install of Helena on an HDD with 2 NTFS partitions with XP and 7 installed?
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I made a bootable USB. Its working great. Software management tool is kinda cool. Best part is the mockup of future releases of Software Center. It will be awesome.
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It will not install on ntfs or fat if not using wubi.
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You just have to create an ext3 partition for "root" and a swap partition for "swap". Then during installation, choose "Manual" for Partitioning and then choose the desired ext3 parition for "/" mount point and Swap partition for "swap". Simple. Just be careful while partitioning and its names. Its not c: or d:
Linux names partitions differently.
Krow you have 2 disks so it will be marked as /dev/hda & /dev/hdb. ( or sda & sdb)
Same with partitions and its numbering.
1st parition on the 1st HDD: /dev/hda1
2nd partition on the 1st HDD: /dev/hda2

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1st partition on the 2nd HDD: /dev/hdb1
2nd partition on the 2nd HDD: /dev/hdb2

Since you have 2 ntfs partitions on your 2nd disk, create an ext3 parition, which will be named as /dev/hdb3 if primary or /dev/hda5, if logical. Just choose the partitions mount-points accordingly and you will learn how simple itis to install any distro.

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i thought a new geek girl on the forum
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You just have to create an ext3 partition for "root" and a swap partition for "swap". Then during installation, choose "Manual" for Partitioning and then choose the desired ext3 parition for "/" mount point and Swap partition for "swap". Simple. Just be careful while partitioning and its names. Its not c: or d:
Linux names partitions differently.
Krow you have 2 disks so it will be marked as /dev/hda & /dev/hdb. ( or sda & sdb)
Same with partitions and its numbering.
1st parition on the 1st HDD: /dev/hda1
2nd partition on the 1st HDD: /dev/hda2

Similarly
1st partition on the 2nd HDD: /dev/hdb1
2nd partition on the 2nd HDD: /dev/hdb2

Since you have 2 ntfs partitions on your 2nd disk, create an ext3 parition, which will be named as /dev/hdb3 if primary or /dev/hda5, if logical. Just choose the partitions mount-points accordingly and you will learn how simple itis to install any distro.

Check the FAQ section for more details.
Yeah the names were sda* for disk1 and sdb* for disk2. Is it safe to do the same with an ext4 partition? Just asking, my partition manager doesn't have ext4 support though. I am skeptical of doing it at boot time though. I will make an ext3 partition for now. How much for the swap should I allocate?

I say that the boot time partitioning is kinda bad because I had allocated 30GB to an ext3 partition and 2GB for Linux Swap. Then I clicked on ext3 and clicked forward. It gave me the same no drive specified for root error.

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She is the new hottie on the Internet, but of a different kind. Gloria was easy to get to as she could be gotten to from the Windows. But Helena says that this is cheap treatment. So, it is difficult to get to her. Guess some babes are difficult to get to.
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ext4 still is not "stable/reliable", so stick with ext3. Use Gparted Live CD for partitioning needs.
You should allocate at least 500 MB for swap and a 10 GB "root" partition would be enough. Further if you are planning to do distro hopping,why not create a separate partition ,which will be mounted on "/home" where all your personal data and preferences would be stored and saved? SO next time if you want to install any other distro, simply share that "/home" partition

As for "Boot time error" i think you have to select the ext3 partition (30GB) and click on "Edit" and then mount it as "/"

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The Perfect Desktop - Linux Mint 8 (Helena)

QAENING: USE "CUstom" Mode when paritioning and dont use "Use Entire Disk " option. I still dont know why this destructive method is used by Linux install. How moronic is it to wipe out the whole drive and loose data?
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QAENING: USE "CUstom" Mode when paritioning and dont use "Use Entire Disk " option. I still dont know why this destructive method is used by Linux install. How moronic is it to wipe out the whole drive and loose data?
That was the place I had gone to. Even I agree that the method is rubbish although there is no data on my OS HDD. Now the problem is that, I use custom partitioning method. Then it allows me to install mint on my second HDD, but not on the OS HDD, even though I made an ext3 partition and a swap area. I then clicked on the ext3 partition and then clicked forward. It gave me the same BS error. No root directory specified. How come I can't install on the OS HDD? If I use the auto detect and install method, then it installs on my second HDD. When I disconnected the second HDD, the auto install mode disappears. Custom partitioning does not work. What is wrong here?
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True. This option should be the last one.

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^Its on download now. Thanks. I was unable to install Sabayon 5 and OpenSUSE 11.1 on my Hitachi 160GB OS HDD. But on my backup HDD, all were willing to get installed. Does Mr. Linus hate Hitachi?
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^I think there might be some jhol-jhal with Primary Master and Primary Slave?

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Default Re: Helena is here!

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QAENING: USE "CUstom" Mode when paritioning and dont use "Use Entire Disk " option. I still dont know why this destructive method is used by Linux install. How moronic is it to wipe out the whole drive and loose data?
Its there for ease of use. For novice Linux users.
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