Fedora 10 is out and out to Rock!

[Hitboxx]

Yeah, that is the title a co-Fed user actually suggested me to use as the title on IRC

SOURCE: http://fedoraproject.org/

Release Notes: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/en_US/

Download: http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora


Direct torrents: http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/

[Faun]

thanks buddy, i just check it back few minutes

I will download KDE version. What do you say, is it worth or should I get gnome version ?

i686 or x86_64 ? I have C2D

[Hitboxx]

Depends on you I guess, you can make it into a full blown OS either way, me is getting the Gnome one, I tried the preview(Rawhide) of KDE and had some issues with it, doesn't necessarily mean it should be the same case with the release.

C2D, me as well, so x86_64.

[Faun]

^^flash and java issues, as i do some devel work too.

[Hitboxx]

No, those should be fine I think, were a breeze on Fedora 9, no messing around like before, and also the 64bit flash is slowly creeping out, so there you go. As for developing, you should typically find everything for it you find on an i686 system.

IIRC, mjmwired.net was like a hotspot for the installation and post-install procedures, probably follow that and all should be fine. Not sure if they have updated with the F10 page.

[Faun]

^^thanks for clarifications

[Dark Star]

Fedora 10 Cambridge Released

The Fedora Project, a Red Hat sponsored and community-supported open source collaboration project, today announced the availability of Fedora 10, the latest version of its free, open source operating system distribution.

The new release offers the latest stable version of GNOME 2.24 and KDE 4.1, faster boot experience (powered by Plymouth), better printing, better webcam support, improved wireless network connection sharing, better software maintenance and update (powered by PackageKit and RPM 4.6), and virtualization storage. Plus, it adds a new security tool for IDS (Intrusion Detection System) called SecTool. In Fedora 10, users will enjoy a brand new theme called "Solar," and a new lightweight desktop environment called LXDE. Developers and system administrators will enjoy the power of Eclipse 3.4 and NetBeans IDE.

Highlights of Fedora 10:

1. Linux kernel 2.6.27 (with improved webcam and WiFi support);
2. GNOME 2.24;
3. KDE 4.1;
4. Eclipse 3.4;
5. RPM 4.6;
6. Faster boot;
7. An enhanced version of the PackageKit package manager;
8. An updated PulseAudio sound server;
9. Improved Apple Macintosh hardware support;
10. Improved HDTV support in X.Org;
11. A new icon theme called Echo;
12. Remote virtualization.

Download : Fedora Project
Release Notes : Fedora Project, sponsored by Red Hat
Fedora Wiki : Fedora Project, sponsored by Red Hat
Home Page : Fedora Project
Screenshot Tour : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tours...10/Screenshots

Huh Its hardly few hours and F10 gets a review / The LXF Test: Hands on with Fedora 10 :: Linux Format :: The website of the UK's best-selling Linux magazine | Rock-solid Fedora 10 brings salvation to Ubuntu weary ? The Register | Fedora 10 Review | bin-false.org |http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...-features.html

[mediator]

Originally Posted by Hitboxx

No, those should be fine I think, were a breeze on Fedora 9, no messing around like before, and also the 64bit flash is slowly creeping out, so there you go. As for developing, you should typically find everything for it you find on an i686 system.

IIRC, mjmwired.net was like a hotspot for the installation and post-install procedures, probably follow that and all should be fine. Not sure if they have updated with the F10 page.

U mean u aint face any apps install problems or anything with 64 bit? How bt youtube, does it work flawlessly? Man, I was apprehensive bt the 64 bt with fedora 9 !!

[Faun]

just 17 minutes more to complete the download

[kalpik]

Originally Posted by mediator

U mean u aint face any apps install problems or anything with 64 bit? How bt youtube, does it work flawlessly? Man, I was apprehensive bt the 64 bt with fedora 9 !!

Everything works! Icedtea (OS Java) has a 64 bit java plugin, and adobe has released an alpha of a 64 bit flash plugin, which works great! Even before, you could run a 32 bit flash plugin via nspluginwrapper! I've been on 64 bit for more than a year now. No problems

[esumitkumar]

is it good for noobs as for me Ubuntu rocks ?? mp3 , torrent, etc etc support ?

[mediator]

Originally Posted by kalpik

Everything works! Icedtea (OS Java) has a 64 bit java plugin, and adobe has released an alpha of a 64 bit flash plugin, which works great! Even before, you could run a 32 bit flash plugin via nspluginwrapper! I've been on 64 bit for more than a year now. No problems

Thanx for that imp. piece of info buddy. i guess I'll be rollin on 64 bits now.

[Hitboxx]

Originally Posted by mediator

U mean u aint face any apps install problems or anything with 64 bit? How bt youtube, does it work flawlessly? Man, I was apprehensive bt the 64 bt with fedora 9 !!

What Kalpik said, and then some more, you can always expect to get to choose from the proprietary or free things, as in Icedtea for Java and SwfDec for Flash.

@esumitkumar, it is expected to be free of the bugs that have plagued Ubuntu in recent years.

[Charan]

BTW Can I initiate the installer from my ubuntu desktop? my DVD drive is dead .

[Hitboxx]

Install from the drive? Hmm, I haven't ever tried something like this except in a Virtual machine, so can't say. Let me get back on this.

[Faun]

Originally Posted by Charan

BTW Can I initiate the installer from my ubuntu desktop? my DVD drive is dead .

you will have to use HDD boot image (vmlinuz) then create an entry in GRUB.

[esumitkumar]

hmm..Hitboxxx ..what bugs does Ubuntu 8.10 has ? also can fedora 10 support logitech quickcam ?

Also I think its better to explore stable debian as compared to laal topi
[though new distributions tempt me ]

[MetalheadGautham]

I am definitely going to get Fedora 10. I am sick of ubuntu's terrible performance. I hope fedora can do what ubuntu couldn't - be easy to use for a newbie yet satisfy every hungry power user.

@Hitboxx: Do you advice i686 or x86_64 on a Pentium 4 "Prescott" ?

And is there any difference between JRE, OpenJDK and IcedTea ?

How is the performance of SWFdec compared to Flash64(alpha) compared to hacked_to_run_Flash32 ?

[ThinkFree]

Originally Posted by Charan

BTW Can I initiate the installer from my ubuntu desktop? my DVD drive is dead .

Can't say about live cd but you can surely install using dvd image from hddwithout using a disk.

[MetalheadGautham]

Does anybody in bangalore have the 64bit Installer DVD with them ?
Is there any shop where I can buy the Fedora 10 "Cambridge" DVD with artwork ?
I am waking up late these days and hence I can't download in a short time.

[FilledVoid]

Interesting. I think i finally see something I might actually consider. Kalpik got me hooked on Arch, maybe it would be worth trying what Hitboxx has on his system. I believe you have this installed ? If so could you just pm me a screenshot of you running OpenOffice, a browser, a music player (Sonata or whatever) with its resource usage. Just want to see how hungry it would be so I can try it on my old systems if I wanted too .

[gary4gar]

I am Done with Distro Hopping because i realized that i am spending too much time in "setting & installing stuff " rather than actually working on my workstation.

Fedora Looks cool, but my current distro would stay on for a long long time...

[MetalheadGautham]

Well... I have an empty 9.8GB partition with me to install this.

[a_k_s_h_a_y]

thankQ dude, off to download ! my ubuntu is screwed. and i hope this time fedora installs on my system. LOL ! last time it failed miserably !

[Hitboxx]

@MetalHead, I have the 64bit Gnome Live CD, it's a nice basic Gnome install upon which you can build up later. If you want it, PM me your address, I will send it. And if your processor supports 64bit, use that.

@FilledVoid, Haven't installed OOo yet, give me some time

[MetalheadGautham]

@Hitboxx: I can get the gnome CD right now, in less than an hour. But its the DVD which I want since I wake at only 6:00 AM and it would be 6:30 AM before I can start the comp and I turn it off by 7:30 AM. That means only an hour of downloads, and fedora dvd would take a whole week.

BSNL's november offer ensured that I have enough bandwidth to afford downloading a whole CD.

Anyway, how is gnome performance compared to KDE4.1 in fedora ?
Is it worth getting the custom Xfce Spin ?

[Hitboxx]

You don't understand me, the DVD will be a bloat, I mean yeah it's a collectors item if you want the whole she-bang, but to get it up and running in no time, I prefer the live cd. It will install in under ~6-7 minutes, then fire up the net and you are good to go.

GNOME has always been traditionally faster on my PC, so I stick with it. I tried the KDE preview install and I got lost into it. I know every nook and corner of GNOME, can't say the same about KDE. So, irrespective of distro, me is partial to GNOME.

No idea about the XFCE custom spin.

And probably LFY with ship with the DVD soon I guess, so you can wait, although I ain't sure what arch it is going to be.

[ThinkFree]

Originally Posted by Hitboxx

And probably LFY with ship with the DVD soon I guess, so you can wait, although I ain't sure what arch it is going to be.

It will be there with Jan issue, Dec issue will have ubuntu 8.10

[chandru.in]

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

And is there any difference between JRE, OpenJDK and IcedTea ?

JRE is the runtime environment for Java. Both proprietary Java and FOSS Java provide it.

OpenJDK and IcedTea are exactly same as far as the code base is considered. While official OpenJDK site provides binary plugs for building the code, IcedTea uses fully free tools to build the same code.

[Faun]

I am disappointed at the KDE treatment, the package manager is not that good. Keep on getting crashes :/ I will wait for a distro with KDE 2 (probably Mandriva)

Will get gnome version in few days