Network Neighbourhood

[Ron]

Guys……
I am Newbie to Network Neighborhood…………..
I want to transfer all the data from a laptop to my PC………….
So please explain me how can I do that……….Whts r the things required……..and so on……………..
Thnks In Advance……..
Ron

[Choto Cheeta]

For just 2 Computer Networking here is what u would need

Hardware :

Network adaptor (LAN Port or card) in Both system
One CAT5 Cable with 2 RJ45 JACK, punched in Cross format, (Just ask any computer vendor)

Software

What OS are u running Windows XP SP2 may be ??
LAN drivers Installed in both system
For new commer i would suggest keep any (Windows or ur Internet Security software) Firewall turned off !!!!


Software Configuration

After you have pluged the Cable in Both system... do thi for both system but just change the IP (when needed)....

Go to Network Connections, there Right Click on the Available Connection (may be Local Area Connection), Click Properties,



Now there Scroll downl to option Internet Protocol TCP/IP then Properties, now enter IP as follows,

System One (may be ur Desktop)

IP Address : 192.168.0.1
Subnet : 255.255.255.0

Leave rest of the fields blank

System 2 (may be ur Lappy)

IP Address : 192.168.0.xx (any number up to 255 and apart from 0/1 i would give 2)
Subnet : 255.255.255.0
Default Getway : 192.168.0.1

Leave rest of the fields blank



Now u have to turn on the File and Printer Sharing, u may do it manually or through Windows Wizered... i would say for new comer, use the wizerd

Go to Network Connections, now at left pannel, Click Setup Office and Home Network



IT will launch the Wizerd, now click Next couple of time u land here,



now as u havent wrote ur Internet options so, i suppose u chose the Middle option, which is marked in the image

Click Next to name the Computer and Description



Now for the Desktop Give Nanem C1 and for Lappy its C2 note, u may name them any thing u want but with short name they are easy to access

Click Next to provie a Workd Group name, Note u should to enter same name in both System , in my case i gave them name WG





Now clicking next, wizerd will give option to turn on the file and Printer shareing...

Enable them... now u would need to click next couple of time, and later on, finish the wizerd...

Now in both system, Go to My computer, Right Click on each and every Drive (as i assume u would share every thing), Go to Share and Security

http://img14.imgspot.com/u/07/156/15/0755883.JPG

Now Check on the options, Share this folder on the Network and the option bellow it, Allow Network Users to change my files



Click apply... Now reboot and after that make sure that ur IP address settings are right or as mentioned here....

Now u should be able to access the drives of network by this format in windows explorer address bar, type

\\Computer name\driver latter

Ex.

\\c1\c\Saurav\

u may b asked by windows to enter Admin user name and password to access the drivers for the 1st time u do it

Thank you...

[47shailesh]

^why to reboot..n/w wil work even without repoobting..

Just try to ping the remote m/c and success will ensure connectivity...

[Choto Cheeta]

@47shailesh

Personall I saw some time this process doesnt work unless u restart certain services (if in case previous network settinsg were present) , now, i felt its best for a new comer to go for a ReBoot !!! rather troubleshooting if any systems fail to detect each other !!!!

but yes, thearitically it should work without the Reboot, but with Microsoft software, many time one would have to think out of the box

[vish786]

Originally Posted by Choto Cheeta

@47shailesh

Personall I saw some time this process doesnt work unless u restart certain services (if in case previous network settinsg were present) , now, i felt its best for a new comer to go for a ReBoot !!! rather troubleshooting if any systems fail to detect each other !!!!

but yes, thearitically it should work without the Reboot, but with Microsoft software, many time one would have to think out of the box

is hub also required to connect or network two computers... i have lan cards on both of my system, can i connect them using a cable directly without buying hub or switch?????????? i had tried this but it didnt work for me

[praka123]

^ it worked for me in Linux using cable connected to LAN port of both computer.so its possible.

[Choto Cheeta]

@vish786

No HUB/Switch needed for 2 PC, Direct connection will work fine....

Originally Posted by vish786

i had tried this but it didnt work for me

Please follow the process described here

[vish786]

Originally Posted by Choto Cheeta

@vish786

No HUB/Switch needed for 2 PC, Direct connection will work fine....





Please follow the process described here

i did the exact procedure.... but didnt work, above procedure works only if i use HUB otherwise with direct cable connection it does not work ... i am using my modem ethernet cable which has 8 wires look at the pic... is that the wire your using ??? and i have a pretty long cable... is that a problem??

Originally Posted by praka123

^ it worked for me in Linux using cable connected to LAN port of both computer.so its possible.

and how did u configure dude... can u give ur procedure also i will try on linux also

[Choto Cheeta]

procedure works only if i use HUB otherwise with direct cable connection it does not work

are u sure u have Crossed Cable ????

[vish786]

Originally Posted by Choto Cheeta

are u sure u have Crossed Cable ????

look at the pic i have posted, i have only that cable... dont know what is crossed cable... can u post a pic of crossed cable... how i have posted after searching from net, it would make things easier.

[Ishan]

i have done everything as u said...but my lappy and PC are not able to detect each other.
yes I have Win Xp SP2 in Lappy but not in Desktop.

i did many restarts in both the PC and Lappy but in vain.

and when i ping then from lappy it shows "Unreachable Host"
and in Desktop it shows "Requested timed out"
and when i insert the cable it isnt autodetecting..

what shall i do now?

[Ron]

Buddy
First of all....thnxs.............and hey......

1. a messages keeps on appearing on both my Pc and laptop.....in the taskbar.........."A network cable is unlugged".......after pluging the Cable in Both the.....system............also.......why??

2.After launching the Network Setup Wizard.............
I goot the following message............



Should I Ignore it?


3. when I typed the command "\\c1\c"............in address bar.....I got the mesage......"make sure the path or internet adress is correct".............

4. Anh hey how can i check whether the cable is correctly plugged to both the system..........and Lan is working..................


LAN OR HIGH SPEED INTERNET'S COMPONENT OF LAPTOP IS

Local Area Connection
Intel(R)PRO/100 VE NETWORKS CONNECTION

1394 cONNECTION
1394 NET ADAPTER

WIRELESS NETWORK CONNECTION
INTEL(R) WIRELESS 3945ABG NETWORK CONNECTION


LAN OR HIGH SPEED INTERNET'S COMPONENT OF MY PC IS

LOCAL AREA CONNECTION
Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC


Thnks in advance
ron

[vish786]

@CHOTA CHEETA

dude i dont think it is possible to connect using direct cable... i had tried all technique 2 months back wasted whole day... but i didnt succeed.

2 PCs can b connected only if u have hub.

[praka123]

Originally Posted by praka123

^ it worked for me in Linux using cable connected to LAN port of both computer.so its possible.

Yes the same cable RJ45? is used.sharing datas in Linux includes setting IP addresses for each PC,then makes a mounted share using NFS(The Network File System (NFS) was developed to allow machines to mount a disk partition on a remote machine as if it were a local disk. It allows for fast, seamless sharing of files across a network. ) or even a ftpserver(vsftpd?).etc etc(i learned while preparing for RHCE too bad forgot many things ).these are not so simple things to do.I'll say you just follow some good howtos for Linux.and for this case fedora will be nicer as it contains many GUI tools for networking.For Debian distros may be u shud use terminal;is it OK?


NFS Howto:
http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto...tml#whatis_nfs
Linux Networking Guide(too nice ):
http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/w....php/Main_Page
RJ45 cable notes:
http://www.sorgonet.com/network/wiring-rj-45-network/

[vish786]

ok finally got the point i have a straight cable not a crossed cable

@praka123 thanks for reply

@RON AND @ ISHAN

guys u both have straight cable that is y its not connecting... get your cable crossed at one end and then try, it will work.

if u want to know more about crossed cable here is the link
http://www.littlewhitedog.com/content-8.html

http://www.ossmann.com/5-in-1.html

[Choto Cheeta]

Originally Posted by Ron

1. a messages keeps on appearing on both my Pc and laptop.....in the taskbar.........."A network cable is unlugged".......after pluging the Cable in Both the.....system............also.......why??

Answer given, may b u dont have Crossed cable... !!!

3. when I typed the command "\\c1\c"............in address bar.....I got the mesage......"make sure the path or internet adress is correct".............

4. Anh hey how can i check whether the cable is correctly plugged to both the system..........and Lan is working..................

and after u get the connection going, then try my Post again !!!

and to check whether u have a right connection or not, after u enter the IP address in Both system, try this, Start >> RUN >> CMD !! in the command pront, Type, ping the_system_IP -t Ex. ping 192.168.0.1 -t from ur Lappy, if u get response then u are connected

[47shailesh]

How to make cables:
Network: How to Make CROSS & STRAIGHT cable

^^Cheeta one correction if he does'nt have Cross cable than message "network cable is unlugged" never pops regularly...

Also @ron as r both the system in same Workgroup?

[Choto Cheeta]

^^Cheeta one correction if he does'nt have Cross cable than message "network cable is unlugged" never pops regularly...

umm.. I thoght some thing else... i saw that no matter what cable u insert if u have the Network Adapter's Speed/Duplex Settings to Auto, as to start with it shows Accouring Network Address and then give error network cable is unlugged !!!!

that's why i said to check whether its a Cross Cable or not !!!

[Ron]

thnks buddy...........
And hey

\\Computer name\driver latter

Ex.

\\c1\c\Saurav\

wht does Saurav Refers to?..............

[Choto Cheeta]

Ex.

\\c1\c\Saurav\

wht does Saurav Refers to?..............

C1 = Computer Name
C = The drive letter
Saurav = Directory !!!

[adithyagenius]

Anyone know how to do direct pc connection with crossover ethernet cables. Need to transfer files from Vista Home Premium laptop to Windows XP SP2 desktop. I dont need internet sharing or printer sharing.

[vish786]

Originally Posted by adithyagenius

Anyone know how to do direct pc connection with crossover ethernet cables. Need to transfer files from Vista Home Premium laptop to Windows XP SP2 desktop. I dont need internet sharing or printer sharing.

follow the procedure told by chota cheeta in the beginning .... procedure is same for vista xp also.

[sabret00the]

To create a workgroup in Microsoft® Windows® XP, perform the following steps:-

NOTE: Verify network connectivity by using the Ping Command before attempting to create a workgroup.

1. Click the Start button and click Control Panel.
   The Control Panel window appears.
2. Click Performance and Maintenance.
   The Performance and Maintenance window appears.
3. Click System.
   The System Properties window appears.
4. Click the Computer Name tab.
   The Computer Name window appears.
5. Click the Change button, which is located in the bottom right corner of the window.
6. Under the Workgroup field, type the workgroup name.
7. Restart the computer.

NOTICE: It is not possible to have a computer set for workgroup networking and domain networking. If domain networking is setup on the computer and it is used in a Domain networking environment, this should not be altered. Altering this can cause the system not to log on to the domain.
NOTE: When assigning a Workgroup Name it is advised to change from the default name for network security purposes. The default is usually MSHome or Workgroup. This name can be changed to any single alphanumeric word; spaces and special symbols should be avoided. Examples of proper workgroup names might be ourhomenetwork, bobnet, 123net, etc. This name is not case sensitive.

Enable Simple File Sharing

1. Click the Start button and click My Computer.
2. Click Tools and click Folder Options from the drop down list.
   The Folder Options window appears.
3. Click the View tab. (Figure 1).
   The View window appears.
4. Under Advanced Settings, scroll to the bottom of the list and select Use Simple File Sharing (Recommended).
5. Click Apply, and then click OK.

Installing Client for Microsoft® Networks For Windows® XP

Perform the following steps to install the Client for Microsoft Networks component. If this component is already listed, proceed to the next section.
NOTE:The Client for Microsoft Networks component is installed by default. However, if it has been removed, you may need to reinstall it.

• Click the Start button and then click Control Panel.
  The Control Panel window appears.
• Double-click the Network Connections icon.

NOTE:If you do not see the Network Connection icon, click Switch to Classic View to expand the list of viewable icons.

1. Right-click the network connection that you are using and then left-click Properties.
2. Click Install.
3. Click Client, and then click Add.
4. Click Client for Microsoft Networks and then click the OK button.
5. Click Close.

Enable the Guest Account in Microsoft Windows XP.

To enable the Guest account in Microsoft® Windows® XP, perform the following steps:

1. Click Start, and then click Run.
   The Run window appears.
2. Type Command in the Open box.
3. Click OK.
   The Command Prompt window appears.
4. At the command prompt, type net user guest /active:yes and press the <Enter> key.
5. Press the <Enter> key.
   The message Command Completed Successfully appears.
6. Type Exit.
7. Press the <Enter> key.
8. Restart the computer.

Share a hard drive in Microsoft® Windows XP without running the Nework Setup Wizard.


To share a hard drive without running the Network Setup Wizard in Windows XP, perform the following steps:
NOTE: When 10 or more systems in a network simultaneously connect to a system being used as a file server running Microsoft Windows 98, ME, NT, 2000 Professional or XP, only 10 systems will be able to connect at any one time. This is due to a limitation in Microsoft Windows 98, ME, NT, 2000 Professional and XP. Also, the connection will automatically disconnect after 15 minutes of inactivity to allow other active systems to connect.

1. Right-click the Start button and then click Explore.
   The Start Menu window opens.
2. In the pane on the left find the hard drive you wish to share.
3. Right-click the hard drive, then click Properties.
   The Hard Drive properties window appears.
4. Click the Sharing tab.
5. Click If you understand the risk but still want to share the root of the drive, click here (Figure 1).
   
   Figure 1 - Sharing Tab.
6. Click If you understand the security risks but want to share files without running the wizard, click here (Figure 2).
   
   Figure 2 - File sharing confirmation.
7. Select Just enable file sharing, then click OK (Figure 3).
   
   Figure 3 - Enable File Sharing.
8. Click to check Share this folder on the network and Allow Other Users to Change My files (Figure 4).
   
   Figure 4 - Sharing configuration.
9. In the Share name field, type a name for the share.
10. Click Apply, then click OK.
    The Hard Drive properties window closes.

Share a Hard Drive or folder in Microsoft® Windows® XP after running the Network Setup Wizard.


To share a hard drive or folder in Microsoft® Windows® XP after running the Network Setup Wizard, perform the following steps:
NOTE: When 10 or more systems in a network simultaneously connect to a system being used as a file server running Microsoft Windows 98, Millennium Edition (Me), 2000 Professional, XP, or Windows NT®, only 10 systems will be able to connect at any one time. This is due to a limitation in Windows 98, Me, 2000 Professional, XP, and Windows NT. Also, the connection will automatically disconnect after 15 minutes of inactivity to allow other active systems to connect.

1. Right-click the Start button and then click Explore.
   The Start Menu window opens.
2. In the pane on the left, find the hard drive or folder you wish to share.
3. Right-click the hard drive or folder and click Properties.
   The Hard Drive or Folder properties window appears.
4. Click the Sharing tab.
   The Sharing window appears.
5. Click to check Share this folder on the network and Allow network users to change my files (Figure 1).
   
   Figure 1 - Sharing Configuration
6. In the Share name field, type a name for the share.
7. Click Apply, then click OK.
   The Hard Drive or Folder properties window closes.

[Choto Cheeta]

Woah bobby, Gr8 Effort !!!

[sabret00the]

^^ he he my pleasure..

[adithyagenius]

Norton Internet Security crapware was preventing me from networking. Uninstalled it and now it works fine. Sharing is so irritating vista. I had to try different techniques for different folders.

[vish786]

Originally Posted by Chota Cheeta

Now u have to turn on the File and Printer Sharing, u may do it manually or through Windows Wizered... i would say for new comer, use the wizerd

how to do it manually. ?

[Choto Cheeta]

^^^^

Not much difficult you see, as suppose in a New Windows XP system where you have not yes asigned network values, if you Go to Sharing tab of a Directory of Drive, it would look like this,



So Now click the text says, "If you understand the risk..... Click here"....

Now it should show you this, Windows Next...



Once again Click, text says, "If you understand the ... click here"

Once you click it, Windows will offer you this window to Enable the File and Printer Share Manually...

[vish786]

thanks Cheetah.

[JohnephSi]

I have made the setting bt when i go view workgroup computers it says mshome is not acessible ...... .Plz help me to connect lan between my laptop n pc.

.

when i go view workgroup computers it says

wg is not acessible.You might not have permisssion to use this network resource.contact the administrator of this server to find out if u have acess permissios.
The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available.

Plz help me