Nokia 7100 vs 5130XM vs 3110c vs 3500c

[MetalheadGautham]

Two phones I often see being mentioned as the best sub 5K phones with lots of features are the nokia 3110 classic and nokia 3500 classic. They appear identical in most respects. But WHAT is(are) the actual difference(s) between them ? And what are their prices ?

[krazzy]

I remember you had asked this before in another thread and I had replied to you back there. So there was no need for another thread.

Anyway 3110 Classic has a 1.3mp camera and a 1020 mAh battery whereas 3500 Classic has a 2mp camera but a smaller 820 mAh battery. That's the only major difference, apart from looks of course.

[MetalheadGautham]

I think I lost the other thread so I asked here.
Anyway, I have the following small list of questions:


What difference in battery life does this battery difference create ?

What is the difference in price ?

Do both record video at the same resolution ? (not images, I mean video)

1.3MP and 2MP translate to what resolution in megapixels ?

Is the difference in camera resolution good enough to give 3500c a major advantage in quality ?

About looks, any pics comparing them side by side ?

Any difference in screen size and processing power or memory ?

How are these at playing games like Call Of Duty 4, Prince Of Persia, FIFA 07, etc ? (mobile java versions ofcourse )

What are the video and audio formats supported ?

Whats the default internal memory ?

How is video playback and is it good enough to replace a PMP ?

How is audio playback compared to a decent MP3 player ?

Whats the cheapest (most VFM) expansion card supported by these mobiles ?

What are the extra software one can add to these mobiles ?

What OS do these run ?

[harryneopotter]

3110 - 3500
1.240 mins - 180 mins

2.Around 800-1000 Rs.

3.Not confirmed ..but same.

4.1280 x 1024 - 1600x 1200

5.Depends on ur Choice and usage.

6.Mighty Google.

7.Same.

8.If they are java games and support 128 x 160, then yes.

9.AAC / AAC+ / eAAC+ / MP3 / MP4 / WMA for audio, MPEG-4 / 3GPP
H.263 / H.264/AVCfor video ( in both).

10. 9 MB - 8.5 MB

11.Both have small screens ... so not good at all.

12. Audio playback is good if used with Ep-630 ..

13.Micro SD cards ..which cost around 250 bucks for 1 GB.

14.Only Java Single Tasking applications.

15.Same OS .... S40.

Hope it helps.

[MetalheadGautham]

Is there any sub 5K mobile which is better than these two ? I think the resolution is waaay too low for gaming or videos.

[krazzy]

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

Is there any sub 5K mobile which is better than these two ?

No.

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by krazzy

No.

atleast with bigger screen ?

[MetalheadGautham]

Well guys, what about 3120c and 6233 ?
I heard they are about 2K more in cost.

Are they worth it ?

The main use for the phone is video/audio/image playback and recording, *.txt files reading, internet surfing, java gaming, and last but not the least, phone calls .

Is it wise to wait for Android ? Can it ever arrive in this priceband ?

[krazzy]

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

Well guys, what about 3120c and 6233 ?
I heard they are about 2K more in cost.

Are they worth it ?

The main use for the phone is video/audio/image playback and recording, *.txt files reading, internet surfing, java gaming, and last but not the least, phone calls .

Is it wise to wait for Android ? Can it ever arrive in this priceband ?

I would suggest you to forget these S40 phones and get the Sony Ericsson G502. It has a QVGA display, good multimedia performance, great web-browsing, Java works really well on it and costs around 7.8k. Totally worth it and better than 6233 or 3120c.

[MetalheadGautham]

What about android ? I am still feeling like waiting for android since its familiar territory for me and I am learning linux programming. The way windows mobile hit 7K mark, can Android do that in the near future ?

[krazzy]

Future, yes. Near future. I don't think so.

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by krazzy

Future, yes. Near future. I don't think so.

how many months ?

[krazzy]

More than a year, that's for sure. Till then you can get the G502 to occupy yourself.

[MetalheadGautham]

What about a 5300 XpressMusic ?
I need a large screen for videos, excellent sound, java games and internet.
Cam for video, audio and images also wanted.

[krazzy]

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

What about a 5300 XpressMusic ?
I need a large screen for videos, excellent sound, java games and internet.
Cam for video, audio and images also wanted.

5300 is a good music phone. But don't expect much in terms of camera quality. Also the built-in browser is pathetic (you would have to rely on Opera Mini to get any half decent internet experience). Which is why I suggested to you SE G502. It is a much better phone.

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by krazzy

5300 is a good music phone. But don't expect much in terms of camera quality. Also the built-in browser is pathetic (you would have to rely on Opera Mini to get any half decent internet experience). Which is why I suggested to you SE G502. It is a much better phone.

what about the price of G502 ?

And comming back to android, in my current situation, I am capable of going even 10K if and only if I get a good android mobile with a nice CPU. That atleast possible sometime by Jan 2009 ?

[krazzy]

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

what about the price of G502 ?

And comming back to android, in my current situation, I am capable of going even 10K if and only if I get a good android mobile with a nice CPU. That at least possible sometime by Jan 2009 ?

G502 is around 7.8k now.

As for the Android query, it really depends upon the manufacturers, like HTC, who will be making these Android based phone. HTC does have a near 10k Win Mo phones, so they'll surely come up with phones with Android in that price range as well. But when and how is totally difficult to predict.

[MetalheadGautham]

But the 5300 is 6K right ? Isn't it much less compared to 8K of G502 ?

[krazzy]

Yes, but you do get more with the extra 2k you spend on G502. E.g. there is a higher resolution camera, better interface, faster Java performance, better web browser, 3G, support for higher capacity memory cards (above 2gb), etc.

[MetalheadGautham]

Today, I checked out the prices asked for different phones in a local store:

HTC Touch - 16,000
G502 - 7,500
3550c - 5,500
3110c - 4,500
5200XM - no stock, no quote

I have a feeling that I am being ripped off when it comes to the two nokia phones. What do you guys feel ?

And yeah, he says 3500c is 3 hrs talk time and 300hrs standby while 3110c is 3.5 hrs talk time and 375 hrs standby. The respective packing confirmed it. And the former looks uglier than the later.

I think the box for one of the two, 3110c or 3500c said 512MB in the name part. Forgot which.

Any fresh views on the two ?

And yeah, is browsing internet on 1.8" screen via Opera Mini feasable ?

[krazzy]

The thing about both these Nokia phones is that they are budget phones. They still do a lot of stuff but the way these things are done isn't exactly spectacular. For example in 3500c there is a 2mp camera, but quality is nothing to write home about. Same goes for the display and other stuff. A demanding user such as yourself will find these phones very lacklustre.

Which is exactly why I suggested G502. For the slight premium that you pay over the Nokia phones you also get better performance. There is a better display, better camera, better UI, better Java performance, better audio/video quality, better connectivity, etc. This phone would suit your usage much better than the Nokia 3110 or 3500 Classic.

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by krazzy

The thing about both these Nokia phones is that they are budget phones. They still do a lot of stuff but the way these things are done isn't exactly spectacular. For example in 3500c there is a 2mp camera, but quality is nothing to write home about. Same goes for the display and other stuff. A demanding user such as yourself will find these phones very lacklustre.

Which is exactly why I suggested G502. For the slight premium that you pay over the Nokia phones you also get better performance. There is a better display, better camera, better UI, better Java performance, better audio/video quality, better connectivity, etc. This phone would suit your usage much better than the Nokia 3110 or 3500 Classic.

Kya karoon yaar, wallet mein bahut kum bacha hai.

Anyway, what say bout the prices ?

[krazzy]

The prices are correct. They are the same as the ones here. You won't get it any cheaper.

Also I suggested you 5300 and not 5200. See if you can get the 5300 or else get the 3500c.

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by krazzy

The prices are correct. They are the same as the ones here. You won't get it any cheaper.

Also I suggested you 5300 and not 5200. See if you can get the 5300 or else get the 3500c.

well, what about internet ? IS it feasable to surf the net via 3110c ?
I think 3500c does not seem worth the money when it sells at 5.5K compared to 4.5K of 3110c.

And yeah, my friend got this PMP from this Hong Kong based company called JXD. It comes with 2 years manufacturers warranty. It has the following features:

1. 2.2" screen, QVGA (I guess - it appeared quite sharp)
2. Camera - 1.3 MP
3. Video Recording
4. Photography
5. Audio recording
6. View/play all above plus text files
7. 1GB inbuilt memory
8. Expandable memory via SD card (I guess its micro)
9. JAVA GAMES

It costs Rs. 2,000 including tax. With bill. In JXD Hyderabad showroom.

does it seem worth buying ?

I am thinking of getting this plus a cheap 1K phone instead, IF and only IF browsing internet in 3110c does not appear feasable.

[clmlbx]

well I am using 3500c and 3120c

both are good

3120c gets back of battery and it's video recording resolution but it's features are pretty good

say if u get another battery and don't use for some pro like video recording then it is best

3500 is best in it's budget . using it since last 1 year (actually 10 months)

[krazzy]

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

well, what about internet ? IS it feasable to surf the net via 3110c ?
I think 3500c does not seem worth the money when it sells at 5.5K compared to 4.5K of 3110c.

And yeah, my friend got this PMP from this Hong Kong based company called JXD. It comes with 2 years manufacturers warranty. It has the following features:

1. 2.2" screen, QVGA (I guess - it appeared quite sharp)
2. Camera - 1.3 MP
3. Video Recording
4. Photography
5. Audio recording
6. View/play all above plus text files
7. 1GB inbuilt memory
8. Expandable memory via SD card (I guess its micro)
9. JAVA GAMES

It costs Rs. 2,000 including tax. With bill. In JXD Hyderabad showroom.

does it seem worth buying ?

I am thinking of getting this plus a cheap 1K phone instead, IF and only IF browsing internet in 3110c does not appear feasable.

Browsing with Opera Mini on 3110c or 3500c won't be much fun due to the low resolution display. Also Java app performance isn't the greatest in S40 phones, so the app will lag a bit.

As for that media player, I cannot comment without seeing it. I am not fond of cheap devices as the quality of materials used is often poor and hence performance and reliability is compromised. They may offer lots of features, but it is not worth it. Better buy something from a reputed company, even if it is expensive.

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by krazzy

Browsing with Opera Mini on 3110c or 3500c won't be much fun due to the low resolution display. Also Java app performance isn't the greatest in S40 phones, so the app will lag a bit.

As for that media player, I cannot comment without seeing it. I am not fond of cheap devices as the quality of materials used is often poor and hence performance and reliability is compromised. They may offer lots of features, but it is not worth it. Better buy something from a reputed company, even if it is expensive.

Well, if browsing is not fun, not much point getting it.

And as for media player, I have seen several myself, and they are not half bad. JXD turns out to be a pretty popular and reputed company in China, but quite localised, because its PMPs support only Simplified Chinese and English as languages. I say its comparable to India's BPL in terms of local reliability. Anyway, this model I am talking about can't run ALL 3rd party java games, but it does have inbuilt games. It also has TV-Out.

What do you say to getting myself a Nokia 1100 along with a JXD ?

JXD 661: http://www.jxd.cc/en/product_view.asp?id=265 This is the model I am thinking of...

[krates]

^^^ i have a jxd bought it for 4.3k it's about 1 year old

lol thanks for telling me it's a company ........

1st of all it sound like a bhopu !!!!

and the colours on the screen are not good even.

Camera 2.0 MP, resolution up to 1280*720

Camera is 2 MP but see the resolution not even better than 3110 classic and it's camera sucks big time

and where you heard that it allow java ?? lol my one only plays NES extension games

buttons are hard to press

for a pmp it is not worth it man it sucks

don't go for it man really !@!

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by krates

^^^ i have a jxd bought it for 4.3k it's about 1 year old

lol thanks for telling me it's a company ........

1st of all it sound like a bhopu !!!!

and the colours on the screen are not good even.

Camera 2.0 MP, resolution up to 1280*720

Camera is 2 MP but see the resolution not even better than 3110 classic and it's camera sucks big time

and where you heard that it allow java ?? lol my one only plays NES extension games

buttons are hard to press

for a pmp it is not worth it man it sucks

don't go for it man really !@!

Here is the review of my friend's JXD:

1. Sound quality good. Not excellent, but good enough.
2. Camera is 1.3MP, and its also quite good. I took a few pics, and they are all good.
3. He showed me some java games he played on his JXD. It does play them.
4. WTH ? It plays NES games ? You mean it has a NES emulator too ?

And yeah, you paid 4.3K for it ? My friend got it with warranty for 2K.

[krazzy]

Well if you like that JXD thing you can get it. But you won't be getting any recommendation on it from me as I'm still not quite sure about it's quality. You might as well get a Transcend player. It might not have all the bells and whistles like the camera and Java app support but they have respectable quality and are far more reliable. Go to www.transcendusa.com to see a list of their players. They are quite inexpensive.

Oh and btw, 1100 is not available any more. But there are several other cheap Nokia phones that have replaced it.