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If you had to choose between buying a N82 and the upcoming N79, which would you choose?

I vote for the N79 because of the following positives over the N82:

+ Better keypad
+ Better Looks (subjective)
+ Improved sound quality similar to N81
+ Better battery life
+ Better quality construction (will have to wait for the release to confirm)
+ Less weight and width
+ Navi wheel
+ FM transmitter (hope it is available in Indian version)
+ FM Radio RDS (not really that important)
+ Symbian FP2
+ 4GB card in the retail package

Negatives over the N82 are:
- No Xenon Flash
- Single CPU of 369 Mhz compared to N82's Dual CPU of 332 Mhz
- Lack of Graphics HW Accelerator
- Lack of TV out cable in retail package
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I vote 4 the N82 now coz Xenon flash is really important 4 me...However will still wait 4 the N79 2 launch and then compare it with N82 2 see which one will b better...Price will also play an important part in taking a final decision...
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I vote 4 the N82 now coz Xenon flash is really important 4 me...However will still wait 4 the N79 2 launch and then compare it with N82 2 see which one will b better...Price will also play an important part in taking a final decision...
I wud buy the N79 even if it is about 2k more expensive..... which I think it will be.
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I m all in favor of N79. The keypad is much batter then N82 & I can live with Dual LED flash. Even if it has 96 MB RAM & same speed as E51 it's enough for me
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If you had to choose between buying a N82 and the upcoming N79, which would you choose?

I vote for the N79 because of the following positives over the N82:

+ Better keypad
+ Better Looks (subjective)
+ Improved sound quality similar to N81
+ Better battery life
+ Better quality construction (will have to wait for the release to confirm)
+ Less weight and width
+ Navi wheel
+ FM transmitter (hope it is available in Indian version)
+ FM Radio RDS (not really that important)
+ Symbian FP2
+ 4GB card in the retail package

Negatives over the N82 are:
- No Xenon Flash
- Possibly slightly lower RAM (not yet confirmed but will be atleast 96 MB if not 128 MB)
OMG one more Nseries....Nokia doesnt sleep @ all...

Btw N85 is better in looks than N79

& N79 is tri-band GSM
but still time is there 2 release them in India..
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n79 is based on different chipset platform than n82 .. hence no omap 2420 chipset .. no graphics accelerator for n79.. i will still go for n82..

also, once u get used to that awesome xenon flash, u dont want to go back to led / dual led setup ..

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N82 for me
Xenon flash + Graphics chip
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N82 is my choice

82 > 79 simple hehe


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What difference in real life usage does that graphics chip makes? Is it useful & important even when not playing games at all.
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Graphics chip improves Gaming and multimedia performance.
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Sorry,can't live without xenon flash and 3d chip.N82 for me.
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Graphics chip improves Gaming and multimedia performance.
Inspite of the Graphics chip on the N82, its Gallery is still slow.
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http://translate.google.com/translat...-8&sl=ru&tl=en

go through the above link .. is the author saying that, dual led is stronger than xenon for short distances?
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graphic chip is mostly used in games and only 3-4 games are there who uses that chip

well the game will even run on non chipped phones but will not deliver the same performance

Well i will choose n79

There are more ++ in N79 then N82

N79 got the same speakers which N73 got

Video recording with led flash

and much more

will be retailing less than N82

this is a competition like N82 with N95 lol
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What difference in real life usage does that graphics chip makes? Is it useful & important even when not playing games at all.
The difference is the same that graphics card has over on-board graphics. Things like gaming, video playback, image viewing, camera and video recording performance is improved.
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@ nikeel this is what the graphics chip does

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The difference is the same that graphics card has over on-board graphics. Things like gaming, video playback, image viewing, camera and video recording performance is improved.
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3D accelerated ngage games are coming soon.
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Just installed Futuremark's 3D demo on my N82

Only one word : AWESOME






Ps Update : Just connect mobile to TV via Tv-Out and see the demo on ur TV

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Lol,you are too late.
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lol , Seriously how the hell did i miss this one
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http://translate.google.com/translat...-8&sl=ru&tl=en

go through the above link .. is the author saying that, dual led is stronger than xenon for short distances?
Yes Yogi.... I read the same thing on mobile-review in which Elder stated that the N85's dual LED flash is better than the N82's Xenon flash for closer shots...
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I am not a gamer in any case.... so don't really need the graphics chip. Maybe I might miss it for watching a few videos, but its not too often that I watch videos on a mobile screen.
So the graphics chip makes no difference to me. And even for those who care about gaming, since the N79 supports N-gage gaming, it must be good enough to support N-gage games.

Whether dual LED is really good than xenon in close shots could be debatable. But having read Eldar's article, one can presume that the dual LED must not be that much behind the xenon.

And even if it is, I would still get the N79 because for me a good keypad and decent battery life are much more important than xenon flash.... no doubt about that. To add to it, better looks, light weight, thinner and better sound quality. All these factors make it a winner.

Remember we are not comparing cameras.... we are comparing camera phones. And a 5 MP carl zeiss lens with autofocus and Dual LED is good enough for a camera phone.

Xenon is important for a camera but so is optical zoom. Just for argument sake, say if tomorrow Nokia introduces a newer version of the optical zoom enabled N93 with a 5 MP cam, would you buy that phone? It would be better than the N82 in terms of camera but who would want to buy that big a brick.

Extending the same logic further, just because the N82 is a better camera phone, I wouldn't buy it if on other so many fronts N79 is a better overall mobile. Those who vote for the N82 are just comparing the camera and are not thinking of a all round balanced converged device.

Just my own thoughts ! May not apply to everyone.

EDIT: Comparision updated in the first post
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Obviously N79 is a great phone but,we can't say it completely triumphs over N82.They are almost same but N79 has better keypad.It's a good buy if you don't care about xenon.I find N85 even better.
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AFAIK; N79s gonna be expensive. I like FM transmitter feature which isnt there in N82; But more powerful processor, graphics and camera with fair enough music will do for me better. So its N82. In looks N79 is better IMO but I dont care.
Though If I had that money; Id buy N85. Damn, the screen is a killer!!!

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I am not a gamer in any case.... so don't really need the graphics chip. Maybe I might miss it for watching a few videos, but its not too often that I watch videos on a mobile screen.
So the graphics chip makes no difference to me. And even for those who care about gaming, since the N79 supports N-gage gaming, it must be good enough to support N-gage games.
Mobile gaming industry is an booming industry. Whether u game or not is totally irrelevant , as the majority of users do. Its all about a quick gaming session when ur bored.If the graphics look better than all the more better.
The upcoming N-gage will use 3d chip so not much future as a gaming phone for N79.

Its just like how after using Win Vista if u switch back to Win 98 , u will have symptoms


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Whether dual LED is really good than xenon in close shots could be debatable. But having read Eldar's article, one can presume that the dual LED must not be that much behind the xenon.
LED (or even dual Led) is still much behind Xenon flash & here's why

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Xenon flash provides 1000 time's greater brightness than typical LED's in consumer photography applications and enables greater than 100 times faster shutter speed and shorter exposure time than with LED's.
Xenon Flash technology provides a wider and more uniform light distribution than LED's as well as a color temperature closer to natural sunlight.
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And even if it is, I would still get the N79 because for me a good keypad and decent battery life are much more important than xenon flash.... no doubt about that. To add to it, better looks, light weight, thinner and better sound quality. All these factors make it a winner.

Remember we are not comparing cameras.... we are comparing camera phones. And a 5 MP carl zeiss lens with autofocus and Dual LED is good enough for a camera phone.
Ofcourse the features make it a good phone but not necessarily the best.

Weight & thickness: A difference of 17grams & 2x1.2x2.3mm hardly matters much unless the user is extremely weak.

Sound quality: In the end most users will use 128K Mp3 and that itself destroys quality. So not much difference to be practical. Unless u use sennheiser top models u won't be able to make out the difference. On Ep630 which most will buy they will sound almost the same.

Keypad : One has to just get accustomed to the keypad. As i said before looks can be deceptive. And if u really want the best experience while typing u will need a QWERTY keypad.

Battery : N79 has a slightly better battery but N82 is no slouch either. It easily lasts 2 days with moderate usage.

Looks : Frankly when i first saw n79 , i thought it was cheap chinese phone. Looks are totally different for different viewers. Neither of the them is an phone like iPhone to be called an beauty by the majority.


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Xenon is important for a camera but so is optical zoom. Just for argument sake, say if tomorrow Nokia introduces a newer version of the optical zoom enabled N93 with a 5 MP cam, would you buy that phone? It would be better than the N82 in terms of camera but who would want to buy that big a brick.

Extending the same logic further, just because the N82 is a better camera phone, I wouldn't buy it if on other so many fronts N79 is a better overall mobile. Those who vote for the N82 are just comparing the camera and are not thinking of a all round balanced converged device.

Just my own thoughts ! May not apply to everyone.
Dude both of them have almost similar features. N93 is too fat when compared to both of them. Ur logic doesn't quite fit in here.

Even if they release an phone with almost similar features to N82 & N79 like for ex. N99 with an extra feature as Optical zoom then

A) If i already have an phone with 5mp cam with Xenon then i won't buy N99
B) If i don't have an phone then i will choose N99 , if the price difference between them is sensible.

And furthermore since N79 is a new phone it will be priced higher than N82, but after some time price of N79 will come down but so will the price of N82.
In the end both of them will around the same price region with not much difference.

Having led light during video recording is useful but frankly speaking people will prefer taking more pics than videos after all 1min video easily takes up 20mb space. And in mobiles space is always a scarcity. And the N82 takes pretty good video in night with its night mode. In total darkness led light videos will only useful for very close objects and will mostly have too much noise due to size of the lens.Having an Xenon flash eliminates most of that noise in pics.

And furthermore N82 can do Vga @ 30 fps while N79 can only do Vga @ 15 fps. So in the end videos taken with N79 will look an slideshow when compared to the N82's smooth Videos.

In the end both of them cancel each other out in Video recording but still N82 holds the edge with Xenon.

Fp2 which mostly eye candy can be achieved on Fp1 through themes and even Flash themes.The upcoming firmwares should incorporate transition effects as seen in N81.

The other feature FM transmitter is controversial. Its banned in several countries. Even the N78 for india didn't have one afaik. And so getting N79 with FM transmitter is highly unlikely.

See the thing is N79 is a good phone , having a few flaws but exceptional in none. Its more like an average good phone suited for an average joe.

Similarly N82 is also an good phone , having a few flaws but the features where it triumphs it blows the competition away. (lol this is almost sounding like iPhone )

It was awarded best 5mp cam award, has an dedicated graphics chip and atm the most powerful hardware in an phone from Nokia alongside N95 8gb.


And check out Jbenchmark results

http://www.jbenchmark.com/result.jsp

N82 is the top overall phone defeating every other mobile in the test


"Practically"
The features where N79 is better than N82, that u can easily adjust to.
But the features where N82 is better , N79 can't incorporate them.


But in the end no phone is 100% perfect so
as i always say this and will again......choose according to ur needs & preferences
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And furthermore N82 can do Vga @ 30 fps while N79 can only do Vga @ 15 fps. So in the end videos taken with N79 will look an slideshow when compared to the N82's smooth Videos.
N79 can record videos @30 fps just like N82..
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I guess we should wait for reviews instead of speculating
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N79 can record videos @30 fps just like N82..
lol i could swear that just a day ago it was stated 15fps in Gsmarena

But still the rest holds true

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great post dude.btw where did you get that game demo?
Check ur pm

Ps. Just for the heck of it , installed it on N73me.
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Try this also.

http://lament-island.en.softonic.com/symbian

btw,where it is mentioned that N79 sq is similar to n81.
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