Nokia's N96 to go on sale on October 1

[uppalpankaj]

The Nokia N96 will go on sale on October 1 this year in Europe...

Here is the link:
http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=5034

@ dreamcatcher - You can read the above mentioned link for your reference as u had asked 4 it in the other thread...So I am posting...And sorry, I didn't mean 2 hurt u...I was just stating the facts that I came across to other forum members....Cheers!

[dreamcatcher]

Well,I know that the n96 is gonna launch on October 1st. Dead!!!

[krates]

N96 = worthless if it is not priced wisely

[ico]

Haha.....The great N96 doesn't even have a Xenon flash......

[uppalpankaj]

Originally Posted by dreamcatcher

Well,I know that the n96 is gonna launch on October 1st. Dead!!!

@dream...From ur post, it appeared that u were ignorant about the launch of Nokia N96....And stop praising SE and bashing Nokia coz no phone whether it is Nokia or SE is perfect....Each one has its good pts. and bad points...It is just a matter of which one suits ur requirements(NOKIA OR SE)...U must always go 4 the phone which has the features that match ur requirements irrespective of the brand....

[dreamcatcher]

Dude, that was a sarcastic comment. the n96 was supposed to be launched yesterday. Now O2 will get it in october.

yea, N96 is dead.Thanx to SE and samsung.

[dhanusaud]

Originally Posted by gagandeep

Haha.....The great N96 doesn't even have a Xenon flash......

what will you do will xenon flash, are you going to shot pics & clips at niht, its a great phone man, believe or not.

[yogi7272]

n96 is not dead ..just that it have a very able competitor is samsung innov8 .. what se has to do with this ? is xperia out ? if we are talking abt c905, then its still a feature (dumb) phone, which has to beat samsung one in image department. I think se will do it this time, but u never know looking at k850i which took ages to come to terms ..

also shame on se on not providing vga video recording in c905 ..

competition is good, if it means better prices. n96 has dual led flash which can be also used as video assist light during video recording. but yes, xenon flash would have been welcome. c905 has xenon + led flash.. that's the way to go as far as imaging devices are concerned .

[sushantvirdi]

^Clear ur facts dude. C905 has vga recording!

[dreamcatcher]

XPERIA out first week of Sept in America.Dunno when the other countries will get it though.
Well,the C905 offers the same functionalities as the N96, now people have to choose between Symbian and function, and a price 100 euro less.

[yogi7272]

Originally Posted by sushantvirdi

^Clear ur facts dude. C905 has vga recording!

give me a link saying so .. proper official link .. not just speculations .. get ur facts right ..


abt c905

http://smape.com/en/reviews/sony_eri..._cam-prev.html

[dreamcatcher]

Well, the lens used by SE is quite capable of rendering VGA videos. But, SE is supposedly working on a "handy-cam" phone, which wil have HD recording 720x480.
Still cant comment till the retail version is out.

Btw, the phone uses a powerful processor. The phone shall render the video to VGA when viewed on TV through the tv-out port. Source:-Seworld admin.

Btw, sorry for the wrong info. C905 uses a Sony Exmor sensor as used in Sony DSLR's. Sorry for the inconvinience. In fact there are more than a few prototypes going around with many sensors.One even has a samsung sensor. The final product will have a Sony Exmor sensor.

[yogi7272]

by looks of it.. they look to be back on track with their cybershot line up .. still vga videos would have been perfect .. what the use of photoflash if recording is limited to qvga ..though sound is recorded in stereo ..

nokia 8mp news

http://www.symbian-freak.com/news/00...el_monster.htm

looks like nokia will again come from back and take the crown ..

[uppalpankaj]

Ya, u r right Yogi..

And when other brands such as Nokia and Samsung r launching phones with 16 M display, SE is stuck with its 262 K color display...The C905/C902 also has a 262 k color display...

And Nokia is all set 2 launch touch screen phones by the end of this year....

[dreamcatcher]

Hehe, this time SE kicks a$$. I really doubt Nokia will be able to come with an 8 mp phone by November, with their N96 releasing in October, it will be a kick in their own butt. Smape said that Nokia will release their 8 mp next year. Sony with their Exmor chip is expected to provide DSLR like performance.

Also, if nokia releases their 8 mp phone in say February, SE is going to launch an 8 mp full touch phone codenamed Hikaru then. Also Lg and Moto will be coming with their 8 mp phones. So we have an awesum battle ahead.

In the pipeline for SE in the next few months:-

1)Hikaru with 8 mp cam running UIQ 3.3/4
2)16 gb full touch walkman
3)Xperia X5(no idea whats it gonna be)

@yogi- the phone wil render the video in VGA when viewin in TV.So that answers yur question i guess. Next year is HD.

@uppal- SE and Samsung have the best screens in the mobile industry. It is impossible for anyone to differentiate between a 262/16m screen in a 2 inch screen. Number of colors is just a farce and is used to hoodwink ignorant users. The screens by SE and Samsung leave Nokia far behind in terms of quality. The quality can only increase with the introduction of higher resolution screens as in the Xperia.

[uppalpankaj]

Originally Posted by dreamcatcher

SE and Samsung have the best screens in the mobile industry. It is impossible for anyone to differentiate between a 262/16m screen in a 2 inch screen. Number of colors is just a farce and is used to hoodwink ignorant users. The screens by SE and Samsung leave Nokia far behind in terms of quality.

This is totally false and I don't agree to even an iota of it...The difference between a 262k and 16 M screen is easily visible...

I personally own a SE k750 with 262k screen and Nokia 6300 with 16 M display..The K750 cam results r better but as far as screen goes, Nokia's 6300 screen is far superior...The colors on the 16 M Nokia screen carry more detail, r more eyecatching and very striking...The colors look more vibrant and carry more punch on Nokia 6300's display than SE K750's display...

This difference is easily noticeable...Even a noob can tell just by looking at both type of screens irrespective of the screen size that 16M display is way better...

The only negative is that if u r having a 16 M display on a phone, the battery drains a little earlier than the battery of phone having a 262k display...My K750's battery lasts 2-2.5 days whereas my 6300's battery lasts for 1.5-2 days...

[dreamcatcher]

ROFL!!
You are comparing a 3 year old K750 screen to a 1 year old 6300 screen??? Awesum man!!!

Now, take your 6300 and compare it to any SE phone, k660,w910,W890, whatever. And please share your expriences.Also, if you want, you can check out any damn review out there. you will get to know.

[uppalpankaj]

Originally Posted by dreamcatcher

ROFL!!
You are comparing a 3 year old K750 screen to a 1 year old 6300 screen??? Awesum man!!!

Now, take your 6300 and compare it to any SE phone, k660,w910,W890, whatever. And please share your expriences.Also, if you want, you can check out any damn review out there. you will get to know.

A 262k screen is always a 262k screen...The resolution of a 262k screen or a 16 M screen will remain the same only whether it is 2 years old or 1 year old. It basically refers 2 the no. of pixels on the display which will essentially remain the same...But no use arguing with u man as u r always biased....

No more comments 4m my side now on this....

[yogi7272]

nokia will be releasing a phone next yr with video recordign more than vga .. ang they are planning to release 8mp cam phone by christmas .. abt uiq .. isnt it the dead end?

[dreamcatcher]

@uppal.There are a lot of comparisons on the net. Check them out.

@yogi-no 8 mp hones by nokia this year. Nokia and moto going to release their 8 mp phones next year. Nokia does not have a 8 mp matrix yet. SE is going to announce Paris replacement, Hicaru, 8 mp smartphone with 3 inch vga display running UIQ 4 and full touch. Also a W960 replacement is in the works and to be announced soon.

[yogi7272]

looks like c905 party is going to be spoiled by samsung innov8 ..

[krates]

Originally Posted by uppalpankaj

A 262k screen is always a 262k screen...The resolution of a 262k screen or a 16 M screen will remain the same only whether it is 2 years old or 1 year old. It basically refers 2 the no. of pixels on the display which will essentially remain the same...But no use arguing with u man as u r always biased....

No more comments 4m my side now on this....

Uppal me on your side

One n00b told me that you can't differ between 262K colours and 16 Million colours after seeing the 5610 XM i can bet even a class 5th student will be able to judge the difference

and if you don't believe me try to look at a gradient pic ....

and the guys saying that K550I or something like that got brilliant screen it is not that it is just boosted brightness

[yogi7272]

http://www.smape.com/en/news/interesting/28655.html

interesting read abt 3.5mm jack & dedicated audio chip in walkman phones ..

[Tamoghno]

Originally Posted by dreamcatcher

Well, the lens used by SE is quite capable of rendering VGA videos. But, SE is supposedly working on a "handy-cam" phone, which wil have HD recording 720x480.
Still cant comment till the retail version is out.

Btw, the phone uses a powerful processor. The phone shall render the video to VGA when viewed on TV through the tv-out port. Source:-Seworld admin.

Btw, sorry for the wrong info. C905 uses a Sony Exmor sensor as used in Sony DSLR's. Sorry for the inconvinience. In fact there are more than a few prototypes going around with many sensors.One even has a samsung sensor. The final product will have a Sony Exmor sensor.

Dream , i dont want to argue with you in SE / NOKIA , But you should know what you're saying .

Do you know what "dslr " means ? What do you mean by DSLR Sensor ? If you know even little bit about photography then you'd know that DSLR Is whole different breed.

First of all , almost every nikon / canon DSLR user APS Sized sensor. Which is slightly smaller than a 35mm films size . Few high end dslr uses full frame sized( same size as 35mm )sensor . Now tell me , where would they fit that large sensor in a camera phone ?

Even if they somehow fit it , they'd need enough space for the lights to focus on sensor , so the phone will be thicker than even most camera out there.

So what's the solution ? Shrink the sensor ? Oh no , that'll again make each pixel smaller and thus lower light sensitivity resulting in higher noise. Now try to remove noise aggressively and you'll get soft picture without details .

And what do you think , its 8 megapixel , so it must be better than 5 megapixel. Wrong wrong wrong . Megapixel can only increase the resolution of a picture , NOT , I REPEAT NOT QUALITY. And increasing only megapixel without actually advancing the sensor will only decrease image quality. Even the increased resolution is useless because after all , you'll be seeing it on a QVGA Screen on cell or WXGA Screen on computer .You know , nikon's top end dslr's resolution is ONLY 12 megapixel , where as their consumer oriented coolpix tops at 14 megapixel . Do you think coolpix takes better picture than D300 ?


I really wish phone manufacturers to stop the magapixel race and start making actuallly capable camera. Kudos to SE For trying it with autofocus or xenon flash. Now i want is a camera with good optical zoom , even if thats 2mpix.



And about the screen : no matter what you do , and how much you increase brightness , a 265k screen is a 265 k screen. That is it'll show less , far less color gradation than a 16m color screen. Newer SE screen have great brightness . But if you compare both screen side by side with a same picture ( with subtle color gradation like petals ) you can easily see the difference. A lot of detail will be missing on 265k no matter how bright it may look.



By the way , nokia will indeed launch a 8mp cam at around same time as c905, and start shipping immediately , This has been confirmed by elder . Nokia used this strategy very successfully in n82 vs k850i fight. So there's very little reason to doubt it. But still we shouldn't fight with only speculation.

Winting for your reply dream .

[uppalpankaj]

Originally Posted by dreamcatcher

@uppal.There are a lot of comparisons on the net. Check them out.

@yogi-no 8 mp phones by nokia this year. Nokia and moto going to release their 8 mp phones next year. Nokia does not have a 8 mp matrix yet. SE is going to announce Paris replacement, Hicaru, 8 mp smartphone with 3 inch vga display running UIQ 4 and full touch. Also a W960 replacement is in the works and to be announced soon.

@dream - Just give me the links of those comparisons that u r talking abt which prove that 16 M disp and 262 k display r the same...I couldn't find any.....16 M display is definitely better than 262k one as it has more resolution (no. of pixels) than a 262k one...

And when u talk abt something, do give some concrete evidence to prove what u r saying..Don't unnecessarily post wrong information that u can't prove..Do give me the links to the comparisons if any...

Originally Posted by krates

Uppal me on your side

One n00b told me that you can't differ between 262K colours and 16 Million colours after seeing the 5610 XM i can bet even a class 5th student will be able to judge the difference

and if you don't believe me try to look at a gradient pic ....

and the guys saying that K550I or something like that got brilliant screen it is not that it is just boosted brightness

@krates - Thanks Krates..Atleast u understood what I was trying 2 say and u have an unbiased perspective….

Originally Posted by Tamoghno

Dream , i dont want to argue with you in SE / NOKIA , But you should know what you're saying .

……………..


And about the screen : no matter what you do , and how much you increase brightness , a 265k screen is a 265 k screen. That is it'll show less , far less color gradation than a 16m color screen. Newer SE screen have great brightness . But if you compare both screen side by side with a same picture ( with subtle color gradation like petals ) you can easily see the difference. A lot of detail will be missing on 265k no matter how bright it may look.



By the way , nokia will indeed launch a 8mp cam at around same time as c905, and start shipping immediately , This has been confirmed by elder . Nokia used this strategy very successfully in n82 vs k850i fight. So there's very little reason to doubt it. But still we shouldn't fight with only speculation.

Winting for your reply dream .

+10....This is absolutely correct...I agree with u totally...

[m-jeri]

@tamoghno.....

well said.... atleast dreamcatcher would see light.....


no i dont think so...

[dreamcatcher]

Originally Posted by Tamoghno

Dream , i dont want to argue with you in SE / NOKIA , But you should know what you're saying .

Do you know what "dslr " means ? What do you mean by DSLR Sensor ? If you know even little bit about photography then you'd know that DSLR Is whole different breed.

First of all , almost every nikon / canon DSLR user APS Sized sensor. Which is slightly smaller than a 35mm films size . Few high end dslr uses full frame sized( same size as 35mm )sensor . Now tell me , where would they fit that large sensor in a camera phone ?

Even if they somehow fit it , they'd need enough space for the lights to focus on sensor , so the phone will be thicker than even most camera out there.

So what's the solution ? Shrink the sensor ? Oh no , that'll again make each pixel smaller and thus lower light sensitivity resulting in higher noise. Now try to remove noise aggressively and you'll get soft picture without details .

And what do you think , its 8 megapixel , so it must be better than 5 megapixel. Wrong wrong wrong . Megapixel can only increase the resolution of a picture , NOT , I REPEAT NOT QUALITY. And increasing only megapixel without actually advancing the sensor will only decrease image quality. Even the increased resolution is useless because after all , you'll be seeing it on a QVGA Screen on cell or WXGA Screen on computer .You know , nikon's top end dslr's resolution is ONLY 12 megapixel , where as their consumer oriented coolpix tops at 14 megapixel . Do you think coolpix takes better picture than D300 ?


I really wish phone manufacturers to stop the magapixel race and start making actuallly capable camera. Kudos to SE For trying it with autofocus or xenon flash. Now i want is a camera with good optical zoom , even if thats 2mpix.



And about the screen : no matter what you do , and how much you increase brightness , a 265k screen is a 265 k screen. That is it'll show less , far less color gradation than a 16m color screen. Newer SE screen have great brightness . But if you compare both screen side by side with a same picture ( with subtle color gradation like petals ) you can easily see the difference. A lot of detail will be missing on 265k no matter how bright it may look.



By the way , nokia will indeed launch a 8mp cam at around same time as c905, and start shipping immediately , This has been confirmed by elder . Nokia used this strategy very successfully in n82 vs k850i fight. So there's very little reason to doubt it. But still we shouldn't fight with only speculation.

Winting for your reply dream .

Are you some god-gifted soul who knows evrything about photography??
I meant that the C905 uses the same make of the sensor as used in the Sony DSLR camera.It obviously is a shrinked and a much smaller version of the sensor used in the DSLRs.Please read what i have said and comment.In fact, it has been confirmed by Sony themselves. The sensors made by Sony are made according to the needs of the user, and the sample pics have no noise or loss of detail whatsoever, so I should presume that you do yopur homework first before commenting on my remarks.

have a look at this and stop barking:-

http://www.phonemag.com/sony-ericsso...w61s-01531.php

Se C905 has being designed by SE japan, and so will be the future products, thus providing greater functionalities and productivity to the end user.The C905 and the W61 uses the same bloody sensor. I hope I got this through your head.

Now why are you going on about megapixels??8 mp pics are larger in dimensions and provide a better view of the object in proposition.Thus providing the user with more depth and insight into the image due to its greater resolution. If you use the same sensor to make 3 mp and 5 mp cams its quite obvious that the interpolated pics will look bad. The sensor plays a big role in this part.The better the sensor the better will be the image reproduction and thus better will be the pic.Dont act as if you are the know all here and all others are bloody fools.

About the screen.I have compared my K850 and the N95 side by side, the K850 has better colors, much saturated images.Period. And yea, i dint even bother to bring in the N82 here. Please guys, if you have some sense, you will actually compare a 16m nokia phone with the latest in the SE serie phones. you cant compare a nokia with a k550 and start jumping.SE displays are the best in the business and are recognized by reviewers worldwide. Enough said.


Yea, right.nokia doesnt have a 8 mp sensor yet dude.they are gonna buy one from samsung and initially release it next year or by Christmas.By that time C905 will be selling like hot cakes. Whatever Eldar said is crap. Please look through other sites before commenting.Thanx. And anyways, do you think Nokia would actually launch an 8 mp phone with their N96 releasing on October the 1st?? think again .Cheers.

Oh,btw.Se also releasing an 8 mp smartphone in december.the P5i, which was cancelled, now comes back in an 8 mp avatar,with VGA recording, 8gb nternal memory and expandable.Will be running UIQ and is obviously touchscreen. Thnx.

[krates]

Originally Posted by dreamcatcher

About the screen.I have compared my K850 and the N95 side by side, the K850 has better colors, much saturated images.Period. And yea, i dint even bother to bring in the N82 here. Please guys, if you have some sense, you will actually compare a 16m nokia phone with the latest in the SE serie phones. you cant compare a nokia with a k550 and start jumping.SE displays are the best in the business and are recognized by reviewers worldwide. Enough said.

the thing i would like to say is this SE phones have just brightness boosted up and nothing else

do you think you will say and expect us to believe ?

if you have some visual proof for that than post here and then only people here will believe

16M are far more better than 262k

[dreamcatcher]

Yea, you prove that 16m is better than 256k. Ok then.I wont be able to post any comparisons this week, but i promise to provide comparitive visuals of the n82 with the k850 come monday.

[Third Eye]

Please don't start Nokia vs SE war again.